is this fence thing a joke?

puremagic

jlew24asu wrote:

to keep out iliegal immigrants

A 700 mile fence to keep out illegals is a joke. Kinda like the air space over New York City, we believed we were safe only to discover someone can still get through.

Just in case you didn't know, we do have fences along the border already under Project Gatekeeper. Just like the newly proposed 700 mile project, they're sectioned off to various areas, making them ineffective. Kinda like the use of the National Guard as babysitters.

This 700 fence project is only partially funded and they are proposing building only 200 miles over the next FIVE years, with construction not to start until after 2008. We build supermax prisons faster than that. I'm confident the proposed listening posts will be operational before 2008, so if they come across singing I'm an illegal or I'm a telee lee lee ban, we'll get em.

The bulk of your new illegals are coming THROUGH Mexico from Central America, maybe that's why Mexico doesn't give a damn.

This fence TALK is for you. It's not for immediate action. It's not for resolving any issue of border security or illegal immigration. It's your quick fix to hold you over until you realize you've been punk'd again. Kinda like gays not being considered married with the same rights and benefits as traditional couples. Oh snap!

callen

puremagic wrote:

This fence TALK is for you. It's not for immediate action. It's not for resolving any issue of border security or illegal immigration. It's your quick fix to hold you over until you realize you've been punk'd again. Kinda like gays not being considered married with the same rights and benefits as traditional couples. Oh snap!

and there are people that don't see how they're being punked......toyed with....I just don't get it.

jlew24asu

puremagic wrote:

A 700 mile fence to keep out illegals is a joke. Kinda like the air space over New York City, we believed we were safe only to discover someone can still get through.

Just in case you didn't know, we do have fences along the border already under Project Gatekeeper. Just like the newly proposed 700 mile project, they're sectioned off to various areas, making them ineffective. Kinda like the use of the National Guard as babysitters.

This 700 fence project is only partially funded and they are proposing building only 200 miles over the next FIVE years, with construction not to start until after 2008. We build supermax prisons faster than that. I'm confident the proposed listening posts will be operational before 2008, so if they come across singing I'm an illegal or I'm a telee lee lee ban, we'll get em.

The bulk of your new illegals are coming THROUGH Mexico from Central America, maybe that's why Mexico doesn't give a damn.

This fence TALK is for you. It's not for immediate action. It's not for resolving any issue of border security or illegal immigration. It's your quick fix to hold you over until you realize you've been punk'd again. Kinda like gays not being considered married with the same rights and benefits as traditional couples. Oh snap!

I dont think its a solution. I believe its a start to a very complex problem. im glad you opened my eyes to being punked. :rolleyes:

puremagic

jlew24asu wrote:

I dont think its a solution. I believe its a start to a very complex problem. im glad you opened my eyes to being punked. :rolleyes:

How can it be a start when it has already been done. The fence concept is not new, it has been DONE. Stop talking like they've come up with a new, never tried, idea.

callen

jlew24asu wrote:

I dont think its a solution. I believe its a start to a very complex problem. im glad you opened my eyes to being punked. :rolleyes:

you know...I don't want people coming into the country carte blanc either....I know the drain this is having on our economy...and am agaisnt it...its just the hypocracy of it....the biggest contributor to the Bush administration in Houston Texas is Perry Homes...who also is the biggest employer of illegal immegrants...I live in Houston....none of my republican friends cut their own grass or mulch their lawns or wash their cars, all eat at good restaurants with good prices(go to Europe and eat a meal..its not $8.00) ...they're paying illegals to do it...this fence thing is a farce.....Bush knows he can't even think about going after those that actually employ and lure the illegals here cause they're his biggest supporters..so when he does crap like this fence deal he's punking you. I try not to offend...just get really frustrated at the continued crap the Bush administration doles out to get their results. By the way...I read alot of your posts...can't help it..your here alot...and think your a cool dude...and if your ever in Houston...I'll buy you a beer...

bubbamackdaddy69

Next thing will be a fence between Canada and the US...fuck imagine that...sheesh...lol

macgyver06

i was right it was a joke

macgyver06

hippiemom wrote:

Actually, I'm not for either one, I was just suggesting something that might have a measurable effect on the problem for those of you that are all worked up about it.

As long as there's a good chance of improving their standard of living, they're going to keep coming. No fence is going to keep them out, and the threat of jail or deportation to people already in desperate cirucmstances simply isn't frightening enough to stop them.

The guy who owns the chicken packing plant, or the homeowner looking for a gardener or a maid, on the other hand .... they've got nice comfy lives and lots to lose. Jail would actually be a deterrant for them.

the middle paragraph is awesome here...and proves why we should be helping these people..

I ALWAYS LISTENED TO YOU

DriftingByTheStorm

macgyver06 wrote:

do you reallly care if they have benefits??? worry about yourself and stay out of peoples business...leave these people alone god dammit! they have been through enuff!!...it aint easy leaving your HOMELAND.. YOUR COUNTRY... think about it!

WTF?

Fuck yeah i care if they get benefits.
IT COMES OUT OF MY POCKET.
That's worrying about myself.

And if you don't see the problems with rewarding criminal behavior, then you are a lost cause.

How about we turn a blind eye everytime a homeless person robs a homeowner.

Hey, have some compassion, right?
It's hard being homeless.

WTF.

Your ignorance on this issue is astounding.
A fence may not be the answer,
but just letting any illegal immigrant in to this country that feels like coming here is still a problem, and allowing them access to any sort of entitlements is a HUGE problem.

Thats like leaving cheese all over your house, then complaining about rats in your house.

(BTW, i like Rats and Mexicans, so don't get all offended here)

Kel Varnsen

So basically this whole fence plan, if I understand it right, hinges on the hope that no one in Mexico has access to either a pair of bolt cutters, a ladder, or a shovel. Since if any of those items is available to someone who wants to cross the border is an unguarded fence really going to stop them? Unless someone guarding every inch of that fence, I can't see it being much more then a temporary obstacle.

macgyver06

Kel Varnsen wrote:

So basically this whole fence plan, if I understand it right, hinges on the hope that no one in Mexico has access to either a pair of bolt cutters, a ladder, or a shovel. Since if any of those items is available to someone who wants to cross the border is an unguarded fence really going to stop them? Unless someone guarding every inch of that fence, I can't see it being much more then a temporary obstacle.

of course...its like when i lock myself out of my house...awww fuck...im gonna have to climb through the windowwwwwwwwwwwwww....


im starting to wonder if its actually to keep us in eventually

stupidcorporatewhore

I kind of skimmed the 7 pages so forgive me if this has already been added...


I wonder if they had to use illegal labor to build the fence to keep the illegals out?

sigh.

Eliot Rosewater

macgyver06 wrote:

what is this for?

Duh, Americans are better than everyone else. God Bless America. We need to sanctify this country and keep the Natives' land in good hands...

Cosmo

macgyver06 wrote:

...again....how does a 700 mile fence keep mexicans out?

...
It makes them cross along the 1,200 miles of border without the fence.

LikeAnOcean

macgyver06 wrote:

is there a mexican pole vaulting team?

Haha.. If not there will be!