Who will be the Next Rome, the next U.S.

bubbamackdaddy69

Collin wrote:

China, India... I don't know and I don't care. Or Russia.

Not russia but I do agree with India or China.. economic and military empires

yiorgis

i am not sure if history repeats itsself,nothing shows to me that we have passed from the point that we have began.it is sad allthough that we don't learn from our mistakes of the past.maybe it's on humans nature, i don't know.forgive me for any mistakes, i am from Greece and i don't speek the language very well

Purple Hawk

world wrote:

Their are dumb, ignorant, and arrogent people EVERYWHERE. To say that they are mostly in the United States is dumb, ignorant, and arrogent.

congratulations, you've finally successfully defined liberalism! arrogant, dumb, and ignorant.

I will say, you left out guilty, self-conscious, and the uncontrollable desire to be accepted. but that all manifests itself in arrogance, so you do have it covered.

CorporateWhore

bryanfury wrote:

hmmmm, so if history really does repeat, then maybe the rise of christianity here signals the end of our "empire". wouldn't doubt it. fanaticism is fanaticism, not matter how you cloud it.

Our nation began with Christianity. It has slowly given Christianity up.

Scubascott

Saturnal wrote:

There is no single country that could do significant damage to the U.S. right now.

Really? How about Iraq? Is the damage caused so far not significant?

Scubascott

Kenny Olav wrote:

I'm beginning to think, you're either with Rome, or you're being fed to the lions. I'm not one to be a martyr.

I think you may be right. In fact I'm pretty sure that GW made that abundantly clear a couple of years ago.

I'm not all that keen on martydom either, but there are thousands who would glady rush headfirst into the lions den.

world

Scubascott wrote:

Really? How about Iraq? Is the damage caused so far not significant?

3,000 dead troops over four years? That is extremely small in warzone terms.

250,000 Iranian troops were killed in four years when they attacked Iraq. 500,00 were killed in the entire eight year war.

Scubascott

world wrote:

3,000 dead troops over four years? That is extremely small in warzone terms.

250,000 Iranian troops were killed in four years when they attacked Iraq. 500,00 were killed in the entire eight year war.

Ok, but what about the hundreds of billions of dollars sunk into the war? What about the deep divide that it has created between left and right in the american population? What about the prospect of placing further strain on american resources by sending more troops in and possibly maintaining a presence there for the next couple of decades?

You don't consider any of those things damaging to the 'American Empire'?

ThumbingMyWay32

given to grunge wrote:

Hi there!
two days ago I was with a friend of mine, sitting in a bar, talking about everything and than came America on the topic list.
He's finished the history college...
From our constatation there is NO GREATER empire than U.S.A.!
And really when you take all the qualities that USA has (there's no country that could harm you -USA-) and it's true.
That's not fact you should be proud of, but I know it from here, from Europe, that every country keep their mouth shut when it comes to talk against USA.

My country is small one next to Italy, it is Republic of CROATIA (I wonder if you know where is it situated on the world map?!).
We here have large amount of fresh, clean water springs (we still can drink water from the pipes in our home or at our squares (from fountains).
And we are all in kind of fear of you Americans, ---- now you're fighting others for oil but for 5 or 10 yrs you'll come to us and fight us for the water we have!

Do you get what I'm trying to say here?!

:!

I understand exactly what you're trying to say. What you've said epitomizes your lack of understanding of the world around you and further solidifies America's status as a world power. Actually, you sound more like a nutjob.

We aren't the bad guys. The sooner you realize that the better off you'll be.

ThumbingMyWay32

Scubascott wrote:

Ok, but what about the hundreds of billions of dollars sunk into the war? What about the deep divide that it has created between left and right in the american population? What about the prospect of placing further strain on american resources by sending more troops in and possibly maintaining a presence there for the next couple of decades?

You don't consider any of those things damaging to the 'American Empire'?

First off, you have absolutely no clue what an 'Empire' is.

Second, the divide has always been there.

Third, again, we're the good guys. You of all people, being an Aussie, should know that.

Lastly, we should crush the insurgency with Bush's new plan. A plan that all liberals should be thrilled to hear about because not only of it's thoroughness through explanation (which somehow equates to a good plan to a liberal), but also it's "change of course." This probably will not be accepted as a "change of course" because it isn't the course liberals want. But then again, that's liberalism for ya.

I'm still not sure most people even understand that the insurgency is taking place almost entirely around the city of Baghdad. But then again, that's the media for ya.

ThumbingMyWay32

Purple Hawk wrote:

congratulations, you've finally successfully defined liberalism! arrogant, dumb, and ignorant.

I will say, you left out guilty, self-conscious, and the uncontrollable desire to be accepted. but that all manifests itself in arrogance, so you do have it covered.

LOL I noticed no one replied to this post.

So I will. Nice work!

Scubascott

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

First off, you have absolutely no clue what an 'Empire' is.

Really? Please elighten me then.

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Second, the divide has always been there

But was it always this deep? I can only judge by the impressions I get through the media, but it seems that the polarisation of the american people is stronger now than ever before.

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Third, again, we're the good guys. You of all people, being an Aussie, should know that.

You're the good guys from your point of view.

You're kidding yourself if you think that the Australian public are on your side. I personally have no idea what the right solution for Iraq is. Maybe sending more troops is the answer, but I feel very stongly that there is absolutely no need for Australia to be involved. We didn't need to be involved from the start. Our presense there is little more than a token show of support anyway, but its enough to make our country a target for the growing number extremists that the war in Iraq is generating around the world. I think my veiw is shared by the majority of Australians.

Purple Hawk

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

LOL I noticed no one replied to this post.

So I will. Nice work!

i am a funny guy but this post is dead serious. liberalism is based on guilt, self-loathing, and the uncontrollable need to be accepted. no liberals responded to it because they know it's the truth.

Rushlimbo

Purple Hawk wrote:

i am a funny guy but this post is dead serious. liberalism is based on guilt, self-loathing, and the uncontrollable need to be accepted. no liberals responded to it because they know it's the truth.

I think its more likely they have you on ignore.

down_ski

zstillings wrote:

I thought it was the Americans that were known around here to live in irrational fear.

American's are the most generous people in the entire world. You all have to bring out the negative side....

Purple Hawk

Rushlimbo wrote:

I think its more likely they have you on ignore.

something tells me that if someone with a sig like yours doesn't have me on ignore, anyone to the right of hugo doesn't either...when you take a step back, and look at the quality posts, there's no doubt they are more often than not authored by moi

Collin

world wrote:

3,000 dead troops over four years? That is extremely small in warzone terms.

250,000 Iranian troops were killed in four years when they attacked Iraq. 500,00 were killed in the entire eight year war.

If you think there's not a country that can do any significant damage to the US, your eyes must have been closed.

Or have you forgotten about 9/11? That wasn't even a country, just a group of people.

Do you seriously think there isn't a country that can do any damage if even a small group of people can cause the biggest tragedy of US history so far?

Collin

Purple Hawk wrote:

i am a funny guy but this post is dead serious. liberalism is based on guilt, self-loathing, and the uncontrollable need to be accepted. no liberals responded to it because they know it's the truth.

Guilt for what, self-loathing for what? The uncontrollable need to be accepted? Common, half the country is liberal.

ThumbingMyWay32

Scubascott wrote:

I personally have no idea what the right solution for Iraq is.

Then how the hell would you know who the good guys are? You lack of insight explains your mediocre reasoning. You sound like a congressional Democrat.

IndianSummer

macgyver06 wrote:

you guys ever read Julius Caesar?

we had to read billy's "julius caesar" in standard 10. it was awesome.