Who will be the Next Rome, the next U.S.

WindNoSail

Rome was the last, then the final will either be the US, or it will be Europe. Jury's out on that one. China is going to be a close second but they won't be 'the only superpower'.

given to grunge

I hate racist, but this is not topic to put them in.

The problem is in people's heads, in your American heads, but major role in that case have your school system. The problem is you have been learned in schools as there is no other continent on the planet. As there's no other country than U.S.A..
With no offence, I'm wondering how many of you there in USA know to put the finger on the place on world map to point WHERE is IRAQ?!?
Few days ago I was wasching on TV and average american doesn't even know how to spell EUROPE, or what is the France capitol city?!?!?

Once again, no hard feelings, but I think you just know about yourselves, and no other.

enharmonic

Saturnal wrote:

If I were you, I'd be scared of the U.S. too. I agree with most of what you're saying. There is no single country that could do significant damage to the U.S. right now.

You'd be very shocked and disappointed if you knew how inaccurate your assumption is.

Next up to bat is the sleeping red giant. That's right, folks. China.

They have the people to do it. they have the technology, and most important of all, they have the discipline that lazy America lacks.

searchlightsoul

China's industrial work force is bigger than the entire US population and they work for absolutely nothing so I find it difficult to see how they can't be an economic super power in the next 10-20 years.

Specifics

searchlightsoul wrote:

China's industrial work force is bigger than the entire US population and they work for absolutely nothing so I find it difficult to see how they can't be an economic super power in the next 10-20 years.

And more importantly they have the wisdom and true spirituality that comes from having a history, something the US is completely lacking.
Funny how u dont hear Chinese Arrogance everywhere u turn?

I say death to the USA, just because i hate arrogant bullies.

MakingWaves

Cheguevara6 wrote:

a better question is: why do people always act like the u.s. will be the worlds only superpower FOREVER. Why do people act like we will dominate the world FOREVER? Why do people act like what happened to Rome, or Britain or any other empire, wont happen to us? All empires have fallen, and its only a matter of time before ours does as well.

Thats why I think being antiracist is not only morally important but also practical. When it all goes down, and the American empire collapses, just like every other empire in history did, who the hell do you think will be in power? Look at the skin color of the MAJORITY of the world's populations? They aint rich white racist jerks. No the majority of the population worldwide is poor and a person of color. So whenever I see a racist on tv, and they say "oh those blacks are so stupid" or "blacks are criminals", I wonder, why they think that the american empire wont collapse, and the worlds populations will decend on them. As a professor of mine suggested, "those racists have alot of faith that whites will ALWAYS be in control of the world". What happens when they are not?

I think we are confused a little bit. There will never be empires like the Roman Empire or the British Empire again. The world is too small now and the world community would not let another country invade other countries to build an empire.
However, superpowers will come and go. I personally think America as a superpower is here to stay. Too much money not to be a superpower. However, we will not be the only superpower for much longer.

given to grunge

MakingWaves wrote:

.....There will never be empires like the Roman Empire or the British Empire again. The world is too small now and the world community would not let another country invade other countries to build an empire.

The thing IS that it is happening right now with United States of America!!
They ARE "holding" rest of the world in their hands, (it might be blackmailing others, or giving charity to others, or military help (they helped us (Croats) to beat Serbs in the war in 90's!)...
there are various ways to be the first and someone to listen to! Nowadays it IS USA!

deadmosquito

given to grunge wrote:

I hate racist, but this is not topic to put them in.

The problem is in people's heads, in your American heads, but major role in that case have your school system. The problem is you have been learned in schools as there is no other continent on the planet. As there's no other country than U.S.A..
With no offence, I'm wondering how many of you there in USA know to put the finger on the place on world map to point WHERE is IRAQ?!?
Few days ago I was wasching on TV and average american doesn't even know how to spell EUROPE, or what is the France capitol city?!?!?

Once again, no hard feelings, but I think you just know about yourselves, and no other.

ok, now THAT is a bit of an exaggeration. the average american doesn't know how to spell europe? come on now, you can't honestly believe that. i know that the average american is under-educated and yes, there are definitely problems with our school systems, but there are problems with all school systems everywhere. i was never taught in school that america is the only important nation, or that we are virtually invincible or anything like that. actually, i think that school these days goes out of the way to dispel such falsehoods. and your accusations, while i understand they were in no way meant to be insulting, still are. it's so easy for people to point at america and say, "look how stupid they are!" how about trying to help the problem if it's so important to you rather than just pointing at the big scary american monster. i love this country, in spite of all the wrong we have done and are doing and will do, and as much as you may hate to admit it, america has done a lot of good in the world as well.

thank you for your comments, and i know you did not mean to be offensive with them. and i am not trying to offend you either. i am just very sick of everyone lambasting america and using these vague generalizations. i know what E-U-R-O-P-E spells, i know where iraq is, and i know that the capital of france is paris. it's ok to dislike or to distrust a country, even when it's the one you live in and love (god knows i do), but find a better argument than what you have presented here, please.

world

Their are dumb, ignorant, and arrogent people EVERYWHERE. To say that they are mostly in the United States is dumb, ignorant, and arrogent.

Specifics

world wrote:

Their are dumb, ignorant, and arrogent people EVERYWHERE. To say that they are mostly in the United States is dumb, ignorant, and arrogent.

But wherever else they are in power they're not voted in. Kind of important i think.

MakingWaves

given to grunge wrote:

The thing IS that it is happening right now with United States of America!!
They ARE "holding" rest of the world in their hands, (it might be blackmailing others, or giving charity to others, or military help (they helped us (Croats) to beat Serbs in the war in 90's!)...
there are various ways to be the first and someone to listen to! Nowadays it IS USA!

Well then we, the 'we' being the USA, better get used to people not liking us and talking bad about us. When you are on top you are the easiest target.

Byrnzie

world wrote:

Their are dumb, ignorant, and arrogent people EVERYWHERE. To say that they are mostly in the United States is dumb, ignorant, and arrogent.

[size=+6]Speak up please! I can't hear you!![/size]

Pacomc79

given to grunge wrote:

I hate racist, but this is not topic to put them in.

The problem is in people's heads, in your American heads, but major role in that case have your school system. The problem is you have been learned in schools as there is no other continent on the planet. As there's no other country than U.S.A..
With no offence, I'm wondering how many of you there in USA know to put the finger on the place on world map to point WHERE is IRAQ?!?
Few days ago I was wasching on TV and average american doesn't even know how to spell EUROPE, or what is the France capitol city?!?!?

Once again, no hard feelings, but I think you just know about yourselves, and no other.

combine lacadasical government education with a sense of entitlement and that's kind of what you get.

The US public education system spends more time worrying about how students feel about themselves (self esteem) than they do about educating them about anything. Even great teachers are stuck as to what they can do because the vast sums of money we do throw at the system are spent poorly and they aren't allocated to the proper areas. A big part of this is also due to those childrens parents not giving a shit and feeling that it's the governments responsibility to educate their children.

CorporateWhore

Saturnal wrote:

I'm not sure there will be a next Rome or U.S. The lifespan of empires has shortened over time it seems. The U.S. is struggling to hold on even now, and it's economic empire didn't completely take shape until 20 or so years ago. The British empire lasted much longer, and the Roman empire longer than that (I think?).

The Roman Empire lasted from Caesar Augustus (30BC) to Romulus Augustus, 476AD.

It was a long fuckin' time, and then if you count the monarchy and the republic in that too, it lasted from 700BC to 476AD.

I fear the U.S. will become the next Rome. I think the amount of immigration we are allowing and the level of decadence we are approaching is completely opposed to our history. Rome became more and more decadent before Christianity took over. But, when Christianity took over, Rome was no longer the same country. We will cease to be the same country.

world

Byrnzie wrote:

[size=+6]Speak up please! I can't hear you!![/size]

Using bold is one thing, but +6 size is a little over the top, eh?

bryanfury

CorporateWhore wrote:

The Roman Empire lasted from Caesar Augustus (30BC) to Romulus Augustus, 476AD.

It was a long fuckin' time, and then if you count the monarchy and the republic in that too, it lasted from 700BC to 476AD.

I fear the U.S. will become the next Rome. I think the amount of immigration we are allowing and the level of decadence we are approaching is completely opposed to our history. Rome became more and more decadent before Christianity took over. But, when Christianity took over, Rome was no longer the same country. We will cease to be the same country.

hmmmm, so if history really does repeat, then maybe the rise of christianity here signals the end of our "empire". wouldn't doubt it. fanaticism is fanaticism, not matter how you cloud it.

ScotInAmsterdam

sapperskunk wrote:

Byrnzie are you hinting that these peaceful, craft loving "Muck" people are a threat to the US's existance?

Cause if so, I'll make some phone calls and we'll get that island carpet bombed back into stone age.

you can all laugh... but it's worth pointing out that that little country has been punching above it's weight a few millenia before the US even existed. Many have tried to invade us and only one nation have succeeded... how can you possibly beat a country where the 15 yr olds have a gestation period of two weeks.???

kenny olav

I'm beginning to think, you're either with Rome, or you're being fed to the lions. I'm not one to be a martyr.

kenny olav

Not that I'll ever join the bastards at the Colosseum...

Matt8townsend

Specifics wrote:

But wherever else they are in power they're not voted in. Kind of important i think.

That's not strictly accurate my friend. Unless there have been some signifiant events during the hours I've been sat here pretending to work, democracy does still exist in countries other than the United States.