New study shows humans have little effect on environment

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  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    +1. I bet if you follow the money trail funding that group it will lead you into the pockets of the conservatives or some kind of industry that is threatened by environmentalists (oil....).

    My favorite part of the article was where it said "c02 emission reduction is useless". Like Global Warming was the only problem it caused. A really sound scientific mind must have written this article. :rolleyes:

    i pointed this out earlier. the study is a canadian study; and their economy is based on their oil sales. always follow the money and you'll find your answers.
  • No matter what the findings are it won't hurt us to react to finding alternatives to our current lifestyle. Even a small change will make a difference.
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  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    No matter what the findings are it won't hurt us to react to finding alternatives to our current lifestyle. Even a small change will make a difference.

    we've past the point of needing scientists. we need only to open our eyes and look around us.
  • i pointed this out earlier. the study is a canadian study; and their economy is based on their oil sales. always follow the money and you'll find your answers.
    Wow, and I was just taking a wild guess. :p
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    i don't understand why you can't understand. the science channel had a nice explanation of this theory on within the last 2 weeks. months ago i told you of another show which explained this theory. why hound me when you obviously don't want to know the answer?
    ...
    This isn't really about Astronomy. It's mostly about your lack of credibility.
    You say, "I've been saying this" or "I'm saying that".... and wonder WHY people don't listen. Why SHOULD anyone listen to you? Your credability is questionable at best... based upon so many completely false statements in your past. Why should we take anything you have to say today seriously?
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  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Wow, and I was just taking a wild guess. :p

    good guess. can you "guess" some lottery numbers for me :D
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    Absolutely there will be some fatal consequences associated with global warming. But you're already blaming global warming for fatal storms without actually linking the two together. Furthermore, others here are predicting near extinction level events without any sound reasoning to support their claims. 75% of this issue reeks of herd thinking, panic, and pseudo-science.


    I'll certainly accept it when you offer some evidence of some of the specific claims you're making. Just because global warming is happening doesn't mean global warming is causing every weather event that comes along. Is global warming responsible for the Midwest ice storms we're seeing today? Is global warming responsible for below-average hurricane seasons? Is global warming responsible for the fact that it's 80 degrees in NC today? Is global warming responsible for Artic ice levels being at record lows? Is global warming responsible for Antarctic ice levels being at record highs? Show me actual science as opposed to silly conjecture and I'll happily agree with you. Show me panic and irrationality and I'm going to be a bit skeptical.

    I'm not suggesting that the fact that these events that happened in the past somehow disproves global warming hypotheses. I'm simply saying that events happening now that have happened in the past can't be immediately linked to global warming and treated as direct results of that warming.

    Climate change is certainly happening and mankind certainly plays a role. But the silly conjecture, rampant hypocrisy, the constant utilization of apocalyptic language and the constant irrelevant references to "consensus" make me seriously doubt the sincerity of climate change advocates. People have always loved dire predictions and people rarely notice that the vast majority of dire predictions end up being largely overstated.

    apologies for the delay in response

    well - no one is gonna be able to provide you the proof you seek - if you understood what the fundamental science is behind climate change you would know you are asking for the impossible ...

    there may have been a relatively mild atlantic hurricane season but look at what happened in the pacific ... in fact - look at the year in weather and look at the number of extreme weather events ...

    i am sympathetic to your aversion to catostrophic language ... i believe too many people focus on that only to avoid listening to what the message entails ...

    the reality is that we are now starting to see the real impacts of climate change - it will only get worse and with each subsequent impact - it becomes too late for some life ...
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    polaris wrote:
    apologies for the delay in response

    well - no one is gonna be able to provide you the proof you seek - if you understood what the fundamental science is behind climate change you would know you are asking for the impossible ...

    there may have been a relatively mild atlantic hurricane season but look at what happened in the pacific ... in fact - look at the year in weather and look at the number of extreme weather events ...

    i am sympathetic to your aversion to catostrophic language ... i believe too many people focus on that only to avoid listening to what the message entails ...

    the reality is that we are now starting to see the real impacts of climate change - it will only get worse and with each subsequent impact - it becomes too late for some life ...

    there is none so blind as he who will not see. i find it heartbreaking when we close our eyes to important issues.
    how many deaths will it take till we know; that too many people have died? ~ bob dylan
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