Smoking banned in private houses in San Franscisco

HANKTHELANK
HANKTHELANK Posts: 89
edited January 2007 in A Moving Train
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/300107smokingfascism.htm


Agree or disagree that government should be able to control this action in our own homes?
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    HANKTHELANK wrote:
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/300107smokingfascism.html


    Agree or disagree that government should be able to control this action in our own homes?


    ha ha, it is completely impossible to police. It's government making laws for the sake of government.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    HANKTHELANK wrote:
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/300107smokingfascism.htm


    Agree or disagree that government should be able to control this action in our own homes?


    That is ridiculous. Why the hell do we constantly let our government intrude into our homes. I hope that this legislation does not pass.
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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    it's not even in effect. It's a proposed ordinance.

    I don't think the gov't should regulate smoking inside someones house. I could ses where they could have a case in apts or townhomes, since the smoke can get into other units etc and effect other people's belongings or quality of life, but to outlaw it in your own home is a litte over the top and once again the gov't doing something that really doesn't matter to make itself look productive.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    ha ha, it is completely impossible to police. It's government making laws for the sake of government.

    Exactly. I mean is this for real. Have we completely handed over the governing of our daily lives and affairs over to the government.
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    What a joke, that lie Pacomc79 pointed out that in unenforceable.

    I'm ok with smoking being banned in public places, and if landlords don't want to rent to smokers, but banning it in the house that you own is a joke.
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    chopitdown wrote:
    it's not even in effect. It's a proposed ordinance.

    I don't think the gov't should regulate smoking inside someones house. I could ses where they could have a case in apts or townhomes, since the smoke can get into other units etc and effect other people's belongings or quality of life, but to outlaw it in your own home is a litte over the top and once again the gov't doing something that really doesn't matter to make itself look productive.
    It should be up to the owners of the apartment building, or to the condo owner's association, whether to allow smoking in all, part or none of their buildings. The government is overstepping their bounds.
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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    hippiemom wrote:
    It should be up to the owners of the apartment building, or to the condo owner's association, whether to allow smoking in all, part or none of their buildings. The government is overstepping their bounds.

    i agree, i should have made it a bit more clear.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Having your landlord or coop board ban smoking in the building is one thing. It is their property so they have the right to implement the rule, but for any level of government to tell people that they can't partake in a legal activity in their own home is fucking ridiculous.
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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    What is next?????? 2.356 worth of alcohol drinks, so you stay below the limit even when drinking in the privacy of your own home. :)
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    HANKTHELANK wrote:
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/300107smokingfascism.htm


    Agree or disagree that government should be able to control this action in our own homes?

    why not? they already do... no marijuana, no spanking, no sodomy. government intrusion into the home is nothing new.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    soulsinging wrote:
    why not? they already do... no marijuana, no spanking, no sodomy. government intrusion into the home is nothing new.

    Unfortunately you are correct, it is nothing new. But that doesn't mean we should sit back and allow it. Hippimom and Mammasan have it exactly right.
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  • 1970RR
    1970RR Posts: 281
    mammasan wrote:
    Having your landlord or coop board ban smoking in the building is one thing. It is their property so they have the right to implement the rule, but for any level of government to tell people that they can't partake in a legal activity in their own home is fucking ridiculous.
    Its only a legal activity now because they havent passed the ordinance yet. Once passed, that once legal activity is now punishable by whatever means the government decides to put in this ordinance.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    1970RR wrote:
    Its only a legal activity now because they havent passed the ordinance yet. Once passed, that once legal activity is now punishable by whatever means the government decides to put in this ordinance.


    What I meant by legal activity is that smoking tobacco is not illegal. It is a legal activity that should be allowed in the privacy of your own home.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    jeffbr wrote:
    Unfortunately you are correct, it is nothing new. But that doesn't mean we should sit back and allow it. Hippimom and Mammasan have it exactly right.

    yet weren't you just agreeing that spanking should be outlawed in the other thread?
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    mammasan wrote:
    What I meant by legal activity is that smoking tobacco is not illegal. It is a legal activity that should be allowed in the privacy of your own home.

    ill admit, im kinda curious where they think smoking would or could be done if this law passes? i dont see why they dont just up and ban the stuff at this point. sounds to me, though, like this is a case of 1) a politician trying to score some brownie points with a measure that he knows will never pass or be enforced or 2) a bunch of temperance crusaders who managed to get enough signatures to get their nonsense ideas on the ballot even if it doesn't stand a chance of passing.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,814
    "oh wait a minute let me make sure that the police is not outside the house before we have sex " this is getting scary ....
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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    josevolution wrote:
    "oh wait a minute let me make sure that the police is not outside the house before we have sex " this is getting scary ....

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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    soulsinging wrote:
    yet weren't you just agreeing that spanking should be outlawed in the other thread?

    Where? I was stating spanking is wrongheaded. I don't believe you will find me calling for legislation.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    jeffbr wrote:
    Where? I was stating spanking is wrongheaded. I don't believe you will find me calling for legislation.

    that's reassuring.
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    1970RR wrote:
    Its only a legal activity now because they havent passed the ordinance yet. Once passed, that once legal activity is now punishable by whatever means the government decides to put in this ordinance.

    The people who like banning smoking like the tax revenue too much to make selling the product illegal. This, to them, would be increased revenue generated by tickets handed out for this heinous crime.

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