How do you ask someone about HIV?

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  • humanlighthumanlight Posts: 271
    I wouldn't be offended, but if the person was HIV positive, I would be ghost.


    What about herpies? there is no cure for that. Is that better or worse? Just asking. Sex is kind of sickening when you really think of the consequences.
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  • humanlighthumanlight Posts: 271
    i wouldn't be offended because all that would mean is that its business time.


    This is true...and I think he may take it that way too. It probably would be excited that I asked him, cause that would mean he is getting some humanlight action.
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Sex isn't disgusting at all, if you're with someone who is disease-free. You just have tomake sure you're with the right person. Diseases are a fact of life.



    Make sure you both test for Chlamydia.

    Here's a list of other diseases, you may want to test for:



    http://www.health.state.ri.us/disease/communicable/std/factsheets.php


    Chancroid

    Chlamydia

    Crabs

    Gonorrhea

    Hepatitis

    Herpes

    Human Papillomavirus/Genital Warts

    Lympogranuloma Venereum (LGV)

    Molluscum Contagiosum

    Nongonococcal Urethritis (NGU)

    Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID)

    Scabies

    Syphilis

    Vaginitis
  • humanlighthumanlight Posts: 271
    NMyTree wrote:
    Sex isn't disgusting at all, if you're with someone who is disease-free. You just have tomake sure you're with the right person. Diseases are a fact of life.



    Make sure you both test for Chlamydia.

    Here's a list of other diseases, you may want to test for:



    http://www.health.state.ri.us/disease/communicable/std/factsheets.php


    Chancroid

    Chlamydia

    Crabs

    Gonorrhea

    Hepatitis

    Herpes

    Human Papillomavirus/Genital Warts

    Lympogranuloma Venereum (LGV)

    Molluscum Contagiosum

    Nongonococcal Urethritis (NGU)

    Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID)

    Scabies

    Syphilis

    Vaginitis


    Oh my God!!! Totally not in the mood now. So, would you be with someone who had one of these?
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    humanlight wrote:
    Oh my God!!! Totally not in the mood now. So, would you be with someone who had one of these?

    Depends on which one.

    I've been with two women in my life, who came down with Vaginitis.

    One as a result of giving birth and the other because of anti-biotics from a sinus infection. Both seeked treatment and it took a few weeks for their vaginal balance to even out and clear up. After that, they never got it again.

    Conditions like Vaginitis or Scabies (which is a mite) are not really like Chlamydia or some of the other viruses or diseases.

    Then there's Pelvic Inflammatory Disease, which is caused by Chlamydia, gonorrhea or other bacteria. it's really a result of the initial infection.

    You may want to read up on the list (up above), they are not all what you seem to think they are.

    But as for the others, no, I wouldn't be sexually involved with someone who had some of those diseases. Most are easily treated and eliminated and if discovered at an early stage; there should be no permanent damage.

    Read into it and you can decide for yourself.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    NMyTree wrote:
    You may want to read up on the list (up above), they are not all what you seem to think they are.

    Read into it and you can decide for yourself.

    HPV is apparently the most prevalent in the population. Most people that carry it are asymptomatic. There are different strains of the virus, the worst kind can cause cervical cancer, and possibly testicle cancer. Other variations on the virus include symptoms such as gential warts. It is believed most strains of HPV run their course in the human body within two years.

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  • humanlight wrote:
    would you be offended? And would you choose to be with someone who has an incurable STD?

    I wouldn't be offended because you can't be offended by someone wanting to protect themselves from disease.

    I would definitely not want to be with someone who has an incurable STD. I would be a good friend for them, though.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    I wouldn't be offended because you can't be offended by someone wanting to protect themselves from disease.

    I would definitely not want to be with someone who has an incurable STD. I would be a good friend for them, though.

    If I met and fell in love with someone who then told me she had herpes, I wouldn't love her any less. Herpes is controllable. If she told me she had HIV...If i really loved her, I might take my chances. I mean, there's a lot of people with HIV that don't have any problems with it... HIV and AIDS aren't a proven connection.

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  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    humanlight wrote:
    I am thinking of starting a new sexual relationship, and I know this person is experienced to say the least. He is a very dear friend to me, has been for 17 years. How do I ask him if he has been tested, and not offend him?

    If you can be comfortable enough with the guy to do all sorts of wonderfully perverted things to each other, you should be comfortable enough to say "have you been tested?"

    Anyone who is offended by that should really step back and examine why. It's for the greater good. Just ask him. :)
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    If you can be comfortable enough with the guy to do all sorts of wonderfully perverted things to each other, you should be comfortable enough to say "have you been tested?"

    Anyone who is offended by that should really step back and examine why. It's for the greater good. Just ask him. :)

    The best bet is to get tested before dating.

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  • gue_barium wrote:
    HIV and AIDS aren't a proven connection.
    is that true? i've read many articles that say hiv is the virus that causes aids.

    i also read a very interesting article once about a conspiracy theorists suggesting that hiv's origins came when scientists would do studies on animals, particularly monkey's blood, to find a cure for tuberculosis, polio and other diseases.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    is that true? i've read many articles that say hiv is the virus that causes aids.

    i also read a very interesting article once about a conspiracy theorists suggesting that hiv's origins came when scientists would do studies on animals, particularly monkey's blood, to find a cure for tuberculosis, polio and other diseases.

    I haven't read about it in quite awhile, but the last I remember was that there is no conclusive medical evidence that HIV is what causes AIDS.

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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    how does this hat make my herpes look?
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    macgyver06 wrote:
    how does this hat make my herpes look?

    stunning.

    can you turn it into a battery?

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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    gue_barium wrote:
    I haven't read about it in quite awhile, but the last I remember was that there is no conclusive medical evidence that HIV is what causes AIDS.

    In other words, HIV hasn't been conclusively proven to be the sole cause of AIDS.

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  • gue_barium wrote:
    I haven't read about it in quite awhile, but the last I remember was that there is no conclusive medical evidence that HIV is what causes AIDS.
    here's an article i found that argues against hiv denialists, who claim hiv and aids have no connection. or who actually even believe that there's no such thing as hiv. i dunno :confused:


    http://aids.about.com/od/advocatelinks/a/denial.htm
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    here's an article i found that argues against hiv denialists, who claim hiv and aids have no connection. or who actually even believe that there's no such thing as hiv. i dunno :confused:


    http://aids.about.com/od/advocatelinks/a/denial.htm

    Wait a minute here. I'm not suggesting a conspiracy. I am suggesting that there are a lot of grey areas concerning HIV and AIDS that are fed to the public. HIV is not a death sentence. HIV is not AIDS. Most people assume they are one in the same. There is no medical evidence that shows that HIV is the sole cause of AIDS.

    That's all I'm saying.

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  • gue_barium wrote:
    Wait a minute here. I'm not suggesting a conspiracy. I am suggesting that there are a lot of grey areas concerning HIV and AIDS that are fed to the public. HIV is not a death sentence. HIV is not AIDS. Most people assume they are one in the same. There is no medical evidence that shows that HIV is the sole cause of AIDS.

    That's all I'm saying.
    i wasn't meaning anything by it either... you got me wrong. it only reminded me of the article so i thought i'd show you. i meant no harm by it.
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  • humanlight wrote:
    I am thinking of starting a new sexual relationship, and I know this person is experienced to say the least. He is a very dear friend to me, has been for 17 years. How do I ask him if he has been tested, and not offend him?


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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    i wasn't meaning anything by it either... you got me wrong. it only reminded me of the article so i thought i'd show you. i meant no harm by it.

    No harm done.

    I read a lot about this back in the late '80's when the AIDS scare was in full force in America. A lot didn't add up, so I kind of left it at that. Obviously HIV can be a very serious virus...but it isn't always. Also, in definitive terms, all forms of cancer fit the AIDS profile to a tee. So I wonder about the statistics. Is there a blurred line in there somewhere? Cancer is a failure of the immune system, and most Americans don't know that.

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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    gue_barium wrote:
    No harm done.

    I read a lot about this back in the late '80's when the AIDS scare was in full force in America. A lot didn't add up, so I kind of left it at that. Obviously HIV can be a very serious virus...but it isn't always. Also, in definitive terms, all forms of cancer fit the AIDS profile to a tee. So I wonder about the statistics. Is there a blurred line in there somewhere? Cancer is a failure of the immune system, and most Americans don't know that.

    Most people think cancer is cancer and AIDS is AIDS. The thing is, they're one in the same.

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  • gue_barium wrote:
    Most people think cancer is cancer and AIDS is AIDS. The thing is, they're one in the same.
    do you have any articles that teach this or somewhere i can research this? i like to study this on my own time and it would be great if you can help.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    do you have any articles that teach this or somewhere i can research this? i like to study this on my own time and it would be great if you can help.

    Cancer is a failure of the immune system. Period. You can look that up anywhere. To call it an "aquired" immune defficiency is something of a leap, since HIV does not always cause cancer. So, basically we are told that HIV causes cancer, but since we now call cancer AIDS, it is always caused by HIV?

    I don't have the links, but you have google.

    Again, I'm not saying HIV cannot be a harmful virus. But I can see how a checkmark or two here or there on a final analyisis of a cancer dying patient might be misintrepeted as an AIDS death. And the public perception is that HIV is the cause of AIDS.

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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    gue_barium wrote:
    Cancer is a failure of the immune system. Period. You can look that up anywhere. To call it an "aquired" immune defficiency is something of a leap, since HIV does not always cause cancer. So, basically we are told that HIV causes cancer, but since we now call cancer AIDS, it is always caused by HIV?

    I don't have the links, but you have google.

    Again, I'm not saying HIV cannot be a harmful virus. But I can see how a checkmark or two here or there on a final analyisis of a cancer dying patient might be misintrepeted as an AIDS death. And the public perception is that HIV is the cause of AIDS.

    All cancer is AIDS.

    I guess that's what I'm trying to say.

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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    There are a lot (hundreds of thousands) of people who have or carry HIV and never get AIDS. I remember reading an article quite some time ago, that stated human beings have been carrying HIV for thousands of years.

    And many through out history have died from AIDS-like conditions, or should I say conditions that we know identify as being AIDS-related diseases or syndroms.

    The article also said a lot of us humans carry HIV from the day we are born, till the day we die. Which in many cases is 60-90 years and never contract AIDS.

    The article suggested that HIV alone is really harmless, but when a person's immune system is weakened or compromised by toxics, other viruses, volitile bacteria or other environmental stresses; these other contributors/invaders to the human body, they believe, trigger a change in the HIV virus which causes it to attack the immune system/tissue.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    NMyTree wrote:
    There are a lot (hundreds of thousands) of people who have or carry HIV and never get AIDS. I remember reading an article quite some time ago, that stated human beings have been carrying HIV for thousands of years.

    And many through out history have died from AIDS-like conditions, or should I say conditions that we know identify as being AIDS-related diseases or syndroms.

    The article also said a lot of us humans carry HIV from the day we are born, till the day we die. Which in many cases is 60-90 years and never contract AIDS.

    The article suggested that HIV alone is really harmless, but when a person's immune system is weakened or compromised by toxics, other viruses, volitile bacteria or other environmental stresses; these other contributors/invaders to the human body, they believe, trigger a change in the HIV virus which causes it to attack the immune system/tissue.

    Thanks. I hadn't read all that, but it kind of fits what I was trying to say about the misperceptions of AIDS and HIV.

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  • fanch75fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    humanlight wrote:
    I am thinking of starting a new sexual relationship, and I know this person is experienced to say the least. He is a very dear friend to me, has been for 17 years. How do I ask him if he has been tested, and not offend him?

    A question from The Motherland!

    How about, "Since it looks like this will happen, how about we go get tested to confirm everything's cool like we are pretty sure that it is?"
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    gue_barium wrote:
    Thanks. I hadn't read all that, but it kind of fits what I was trying to say about the misperceptions of AIDS and HIV.


    There was something else in the article, which at this time I can't recall with any amount of accuracy.

    I have a vague concept of what it may be, but I'm not too sure it makes much sense. So don't hold me to this one, because my memory is vague on this one.

    It was omething along the lines that, HIV reacts in a certain way when our bodies are weakened and attacked. That maybe the HIV virus actually senses a threat to itself, when specific intruders are present. Then tries to repair cells damaged by the invaders or help create healthy cells (something along those lines); but the cells it helps create or repair are actually flawed cells.....or malignant cells. Sensing that the cells are flawed, it continues to attempt to create more healthy cells (or repair them) which in turn creates more flawed cells or malignant cells........>Cancer/tumors.

    Again, I may have this all wrong and this could be the result of a vague memory and over-active imagination......on my part.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    NMyTree wrote:
    There was something else in the article, which at this time I can't recall with any amount of accuracy.

    I have a vague concept of what it may be, but I'm not too sure it makes much sense. So don't hold me to this one, because my memory is vague on this one.

    It was omething along the lines that, HIV reacts in a certain way when our bodies are weakened and attacked. That maybe the HIV virus actually senses a threat to itself, when specific intruders are present. Then tries to repair cells damaged by the invaders or help create healthy cells (something along those lines); but the cells it helps create or repair are actually flawed cells.....or malignant cells. Sensing that the cells are flawed, it continues to attempt to create more healthy cells (or repair them) which in turn creates more flawed cells or malignant cells........>Cancer/tumors.

    Again, I may have this all wrong and this could be the result of a vague memory and over-active imagination......on my part.

    Like I said, I hadn't read about this in a long time. What I remember reading was that apparently HIV invades, and replicates it's DNA within our own. Or something like that. What I found out later is that cancer does essentially the same thing. The thing is, there is no "known" "cancer virus".

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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    humanlight wrote:
    I am thinking of starting a new sexual relationship, and I know this person is experienced to say the least. He is a very dear friend to me, has been for 17 years. How do I ask him if he has been tested, and not offend him?

    Superb question: After 3 AIDS ride for charity this is a crucial question to ask. To me the best way to go about asking this is to get tested first even if your a virgin then present your results to him when you ask. If he gets pissed off he wasn't meant for you.

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