The Jewish Declaration of War on Nazi Germany

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

smells like fascism...

what the fuck does that even mean! we are fascist for calling out stupidity? did anyone try to stop you from posting this? were you oppressed? you seemed to think because people that disagree with you they are fascist. what world do you live in?

smells like paranoid schizophrenia.... or maybe delusions of grandeur mixed with a persecution complex.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

MrSmith wrote:

what the fuck does that even mean! we are fascist for calling out stupidity. did anyone try to stop you from posting this? were you oppressed? you seemed to think because people that disagree with you are fascist. what world do you live in?

smells like paranoid schizophrenia.... or maybe delusions of grandeur

Follow what's going on at the top....trickle down, useful idiots, all that crazy "conspiracy" stuff...

Which reminds me I have to send my Jewish buddy drifting some more anti-semetic hate mail...

Shawn Smith Collective

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I don't take "the history books" at face value

Roland, I'm not saying this as an attack on you, but merely an observation...

Not taking history books at face value may be an admirable trait when you seek out legitimate, well informed counterpoints and then make an informed decision about which you believe is more credible - HOWEVER - what I've noticed time and again in your posts is that you're doing the opposite. It appears that you're simply disregarding history books (different than not taking them at face value) and you're accepting ANY AND ALL alternative sources of info at face value. There's a lot more to using alternative sources of info than simply buying into them because it's different than what the "sheep" are being "fed." If you're not careful, you can just become a sheep in the "alt" flock.

hardboiled

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

He certailny did not get along with the Jews to put it mildly. Was he born that way?

Didn't like the food? There seems to be a very much recurring trend in the military conflict arena in this regard.

makes you wonder don't it. I wonder what is causing it?

I don't know how Hitler was born. But I saw a lot of black people committing crimes on the news growing up. Am I justified in blaming niggers for the world's problems? If I ran for office and got elected on a platform that said we should ship them all back to Africa and they boycotted my business, would you say that they started it? Or is it only Jews that we're allowed to do this to?

What is causing what? Good lord man, I don't even know what I'm being asked to explain. What is this "it" to which you keep referring? Clearly you've got something on your mind and just don't have the cojones to say it out loud.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

He certailny did not get along with the Jews to put it mildly. Was he born that way?

Didn't like the food? There seems to be a very much recurring trend in the military conflict arena in this regard.

makes you wonder don't it. I wonder what is causing it?

are racists born that way? are any haters born that way? of course not. people are taught, usually through a combination of ignorance and fear taught by their ignorant and fearful parents. Why is anti-semitism any different? oh they are prejudiced against jews not because of ignorance and fear but because of legitimate reason? i highly doubt that.

I don't see why you are so confused as to why one group (nazi Germany) could have an illegitimate fear of another (jews). it happens all the time all over the world, and is actually quite common in ignorant, easily led individuals. this concept of irrational hatred seems completely alien to you. why is it so hard to believe that germans couldn't blame an ethnic monority for its problems?

you probably just think Drifitng is "one of the good 'uns". he's not like the other jews.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

hardboiled wrote:

I don't know how Hitler was born. But I saw a lot of black people committing crimes on the news growing up. Am I justified in blaming niggers for the world's problems? If I ran for office and got elected on a platform that said we should ship them all back to Africa and they boycotted my business, would you say that they started it? Or is it only Jews that we're allowed to do this to?

What is causing what? Good lord man, I don't even know what I'm being asked to explain. What is this "it" to which you keep referring? Clearly you've got something on your mind and just don't have the cojones to say it out loud.

That's where you assume and you assume wrong. there was a civil war remember?

I don't hate any nationality, but I do recognise there are factions (extremes) within every nationality that have somewhat of a prime directive.

hate to say it but money has been referred to as the root of all evil....regardless. *cough* military industrial complex....

All I'm saying...you draw your own lines in the sand, and concoct your own conclusions on what is going on in the world.

In any event...Ima call up all my Jewish friends now, and call them anti-semitic names for kicks :rolleyes:

hardboiled

MrSmith wrote:

I don't see why you are so confused as to why one group (nazi Germany) could have an illegitimate fear of another (jews). it happens all the time all over the world, and is actually quite common in ignorant, easily led individuals. this concept of irrational hatred seems completely alien to you. why is it so hard to believe that germans couldn't blame an ethnic monority for its problems?

Especially given that he spouts off so often about how Americans generally have an irrational hatred of Muslims in the Middle East that has led us to war.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

MrSmith wrote:

are racists born that way? are any haters born that way? of course not. people are taught, usually through a combination of ignorance and fear taught by their ignorant and fearful parents. Why is anti-semitism any different? oh they are prejudiced against jews not because of ignorance and fear but because of legitimate reason? i highly doubt that.

I don't see why you are so confused as to why one group (nazi Germany) could have an illegitimate fear of another (jews). it happens all the time all over the world, and is actually quite common in ignorant, easily led individuals. this concept of irrational hatred seems completely alien to you. why is it so hard to believe that germans couldn't blame an ethnic monority for its problems?

you probably just think Drifitng is "one of the good 'uns". he's not like the other jews.

Hey people that love money over other people's very lives....have a problem. Just like an alcoholic would have a problem as well in that scenario.

one of the good ones? Actually no there are good people and bad people in general.

BUT KEEP PLAYING THAT EFFING RACE CARD....

cheers...

NMyTree

Certainly an argument can be made that Jews, historically speaking, have a pattern of creating a lot of problems or getting themselves involved in a lot of problems.


Certainly an argument can be made that Christians, historically speaking, have a pattern of creating a lot of problems or getting themselves involved in a lot of problems.


Certainly an argument can be made that Muslims, historically speaking, have a pattern of creating a lot of problems or getting themselves involved in a lot of problems.

Certainly an argument can be made that whites, historically speaking, have a pattern of creating a lot of problems or getting themselves involved in a lot of problems.

Certainly an argument can be made that blacks, historically speaking, have a pattern of creating a lot of problems or getting themselves involved in a lot of problems.


Certainly an argument can be made that brown-skinned people, historically speaking, have a pattern of creating a lot of problems or getting themselves involved in a lot of problems.

Certainly an argument can be made that Latinos, historically speaking, have a pattern of creating a lot of problems or getting themselves involved in a lot of problems.

Certainly an argument can be made that Asians, historically speaking, have a pattern of creating a lot of problems or getting themselves involved in a lot of problems.


Certainly an argument can be made that the British, historically speaking, have a pattern of creating a lot of problems or getting themselves involved in a lot of problems.


Certainly an argument can be made that the French, historically speaking, have a pattern of creating a lot of problems or getting themselves involved in a lot of problems.


Certainly an argument can be made that Middle Easterners, historically speaking, have a pattern of creating a lot of problems or getting themselves involved in a lot of problems.


Certainly an argument can be made that Human Beings, historically speaking, have a pattern of creating a lot of problems or getting themselves involved in a lot of problems.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

hardboiled wrote:

Especially given that he spouts off so often about how Americans generally have an irrational hatred of Muslims in the Middle East that has led us to war.

well you do...

your media has already drilled it into you...

that's why so many people are ok with it...

hardboiled

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

That's where you assume and you assume wrong. there was a civil war remember?

I don't hate any nationality, but I do recognise there are factions (extremes) within every nationality that have somewhat of a prime directive.

hate to say it but money has been referred to as the root of all evil....regardless. *cough* military industrial complex....

All I'm saying...you draw your own lines in the sand, and concoct your own conclusions on what is going on in the world.

In any event...Ima call up all my Jewish friends now, and call them anti-semitic names for kicks :rolleyes:

Does this make sense in your head?

What has the Civil War got to do with anything? You were implying that Hitler was justified in hating Jews, I'm asking if I would be equally justified in hating blacks based on how I grew up.

Money may be the root of all evil, that is exactly what I said a few posts back... the Middle East is about economics. I still fail to see what that has to do with the Jewish people. Unless you believe in that "Jews control the world's money" nonsense. Your article implies that the Jews got what they deserved. Personally, I think an economic boycott of a country that elects a leader who wants to kill you is a pretty reasonable action. Could you tell me why you feel it is not? What should they have done? Sent them aid?

hardboiled

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

well you do...

your media has already drilled it into you...

that's why so many people are ok with it...

Then why is it far-fetched that Hitler's media instilled an irrational hatred of Jews into the German people, and maybe the Jews AREN'T an evil force in the world and were, instead, Hitler's scapegoat, just as Islam is our scapegoat now?

FiveB247x

Roland, why is it that if people disagree with you, you automatically try and paint them as a the 100% opposite end of the arguement? Isn't anyone allowed to have a varying opinion from you without them being a polar opposite? There are varying degrees and grey areas in beliefs, yet you like to paint everyone and thing black and white. This thread is a perfect example of that because you post some absurd article which underminds historical fact and when people say that, you pass of their opinion because it fits to the mold you see - black and white, compared to listening to what people's opinions are on the matter. It underminds any opinion you state because you come off as so biased and one-sided.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Hey people that love money over other people's very lives....have a problem. Just like an alcoholic would have a problem as well in that scenario.
...

waht people are you refering to? to be honest i have no idea what you are talking about.

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

one of the good ones? Actually no there are good people and bad people in general.

BUT KEEP PLAYING THAT EFFING RACE CARD....

cheers...

the problem is you dont even recognize your own ignorant, fear based delusions. Racists aren't monsters born with their hatreds either, and most probably dont even think of themselves as racists. most are otherwise decent people who are ignorant and desperate to blame someone for their (or the world's) misfortune. thats you in a nutshell.

many here seem to believe that you are just some lovable fool that posts wacky conspiracy links and likes being agaisnt the man. but i think there is more to it with you.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

hardboiled wrote:

Does this make sense in your head?

What has the Civil War got to do with anything? You were implying that Hitler was justified in hating Jews, I'm asking if I would be equally justified in hating blacks based on how I grew up.

Money may be the root of all evil, that is exactly what I said a few posts back... the Middle East is about economics. I still fail to see what that has to do with the Jewish people. Unless you believe in that "Jews control the world's money" nonsense. Your article implies that the Jews got what they deserved. Personally, I think an economic boycott of a country that elects a leader who wants to kill you is a pretty reasonable action. Could you tell me why you feel it is not? What should they have done? Sent them aid?

Blacks have been slaves for centuries....it's practically (sadly) in their DNA. but anyhow...another thread I'm sure...

anyhow ...full stop.

When did I say Hitler was justified in hating jews other that you just implying it to suit your own agenda?

The article points out something the history books failed to include this it seems. That's all.

(in light of current events) I like to see all the cards on the table before I go fish....that's all. Spoon feed me nothing.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

MrSmith wrote:

waht people are you refering to? to be honest i have no idea what you are talking about.

(insert racial denomination here....or "elites" it's applicable.)

MrSmith wrote:

the problem is you dont even recognize your own ignorant, fear based delusions. Racists aren't monsters born with their hatreds either, and most probably dont even think of themselves as racists. most are otherwise decent people who are ignorant and desperate to blame someone for their (or the world's) misfortune. thats you in a nutshell.

You don't think financially motivated people seek more power and make all kinds of concessions on what is acceptable? ok..... good luck with that. It's a pretty warped world in this regard. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. There's really no disputing the existence of it existence. (although some still try to apparently..)

MrSmith wrote:

many here seem to believe that you are just some lovable fool that posts wacky conspiracy links and likes being agaisnt the man. but i think there is more to it with you.

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then you follow a crowd of fools...(sorry to say) that do the same process with you (also follow the crowd).

RolandTD20Kdrummer

maybe people are forgetting that a faction of elites are really our (everyone''s) puppet masters suspiciously doing whatever they want now for a good 60+ years.... is there anyone that still doesn't see it?

I could give a rats ass what denomination these people are.....honestly. I see a problem in todays world I point at it. I happen to think people that murder other people for money and personal gain are assholes like every other face value of the interpretation.

but you know...it's easier to toss a blanket over someone and call them a racist...

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

then you follow a crowd of fools...(sorry to say) that do the same process with you (also follow the crowd).

you seem to judge the value of something based solely on the number of people who believe it valuable (the more people who believe its valuable= the less valuable it is). its the only basis you judge an opinion on. nothing else. I've never read a post from you that proved you think otherwise. and its not that you think that way as a rule of thumb, or that you are prone to take the road less travelled, but rather that you think its an undeniable truth or divine law. if the 'official story' is this, then the truth is the opposite.

you accuse me of being a mindless sheep force fed since birth to believe certain things. you may be right and i may be wrong about some things, but i'm confident that i'm more capable of independent thought than you.

Shawn Smith Collective wrote:

Not taking history books at face value may be an admirable trait when you seek out legitimate, well informed counterpoints and then make an informed decision about which you believe is more credible - HOWEVER - what I've noticed time and again in your posts is that you're doing the opposite. It appears that you're simply disregarding history books (different than not taking them at face value) and you're accepting ANY AND ALL alternative sources of info at face value. There's a lot more to using alternative sources of info than simply buying into them because it's different than what the "sheep" are being "fed." If you're not careful, you can just become a sheep in the "alt" flock.

you should read that quote a few times to let it sink in. you are a sheep with a different shepherd.

JOEJOEJOE

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RolandTD20Kdrummer

MrSmith wrote:

you seem to judge the value of something based solely on the number of people who believe it valuable (the less people who believe its valuable= the less valuable it is). its the only basis you judge an opinion on. nothing else. I've never read a post from you that proved you think otherwise. and its not that you think that way as a rule of thumb, or that you are prone to take the road less travelled, but rather that you think its an undeniable truth or divine law. if the 'official story' is this, then the truth is the opposite.

you accuse me of being a mindless sheep force fed since birth to believe certain things. you may be right and i may be wrong about some things, but i'm confident that i'm more capable of independent thought than you.

regardless....your life is being controlled by a group of bastards that like killing people for money.....(and not Jewish extremists only, but sadly yes they are a huge part of the equation)

and its my fault for pointing it out

ok....you;re welcome.

thanks a lot...