Obama: Bush Senior “did an excellent job when it came to the Gulf War"

El_Kabong

El_Kabong wrote:

and my2hands and mr smith, you never answered, do you think the gulf war syndrome/ DU poisoning of our troops and the populace was handled excellently???

MrSmith wrote:

not particularly no.

my2hands wrote:

no

well, then...what do you 2 think was so 'excellent' about this war? i'm kinda curious

was it doing nothing until it was beneficial?

was it how we told them we'd support their rebellion against saddam then turn our backs while they get massacred?

was it all the 'collateral damage', is 205,000 iraqis an acceptable number?

was it that U.S. and British bombers destroyed Iraqi infrastructure, targeting water treatment, sewage plants, power generators, telephone exchanges, food production plants, food storage facilities?

was it maybe b/c in Basra, pediatricians reported an increase of 6 to 12 times in the incidence of childhood leukemia and cancer as radiation levels in flora and fauna reached 84 times the safe limit recommended by the World Health Organization?

maybe it was that Iraqi doctors reported 11 birth defects per 100,000 in 1989. By 2001, the rate was 116 per 100,000, including a doubling of congenital malformations in newborns among exposed populations and a surge in late-term spontaneous abortions due to congenital effects, reportedly now two to three cases each day, up from one per month?

was it that UNICEF reported that 500,000 more children were estimated to have died in Iraq in the decade following the Gulf War than in the previous one?

was it that the mortality rate in infants rose from 50 per thousand to 130 per thousand after the first war?

what is you guys are championing here?

angelica

El_Kabong wrote:

was it doing nothing until it was beneficial?

As for the concept of "doing nothing". Those who focus on creating peace and empowering others recognize what a commitment doing so is. They fully recognize how much time and energy they spend doing focusing on supporting, encouraging and empowering others. And yet, I'm starting to realize that the those who rail against "doing nothing" are representing their own guilt stemming from their nation's tribal guilt of "doing nothing" in terms of empowerment for other countries time and again, until it's too late. Ultimately, due to their own inaction, by the time it is "too late" they have a backlash due to their guilt, and feel they must act maladaptively, as things seem out of control. It's their only choice.

Or so it seems. Unless they change their approach.

Collin

El_Kabong wrote:

well, then...what do you 2 think was so 'excellent' about this war? i'm kinda curious

was it doing nothing until it was beneficial?

was it how we told them we'd support their rebellion against saddam then turn our backs while they get massacred?

was it all the 'collateral damage', is 205,000 iraqis an acceptable number?

was it that U.S. and British bombers destroyed Iraqi infrastructure, targeting water treatment, sewage plants, power generators, telephone exchanges, food production plants, food storage facilities?

was it maybe b/c in Basra, pediatricians reported an increase of 6 to 12 times in the incidence of childhood leukemia and cancer as radiation levels in flora and fauna reached 84 times the safe limit recommended by the World Health Organization?

maybe it was that Iraqi doctors reported 11 birth defects per 100,000 in 1989. By 2001, the rate was 116 per 100,000, including a doubling of congenital malformations in newborns among exposed populations and a surge in late-term spontaneous abortions due to congenital effects, reportedly now two to three cases each day, up from one per month?

was it that UNICEF reported that 500,000 more children were estimated to have died in Iraq in the decade following the Gulf War than in the previous one?

was it that the mortality rate in infants rose from 50 per thousand to 130 per thousand after the first war?

what is you guys are championing here?

Good questions. I wonder if they'll answer.

Collin

I guess they won't.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

almost forgot?

ya'all remember this?

Incubator baby conspiracy?
http://belowgroundsurface.smartvideochannel.com/media/playvideo.aspx?f=flash7&cid=668766C0850C4373A2B8EB53BDF6FE96&v=mostviewed

lies....all lies...

comments welcome!

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Iraqi Prime Minister Tariq Aziz on Larry King

Tariq Aziz: “Our main objective, our main objective is lifting the sanctions which has been very, very cruel on our people.”

Larry King: “Why do you think Americans want to keep the sanctions?”

Aziz: “That’s their policy.”

King: “Why do you think?”

Aziz: “Just ask them. That’s their policy. It’s against the will of the international community, it’s against the will of many other countries. I think they are making profits from that but I don’t want to make accusations.”

King: “Financial profits?”

Aziz: “Yes.”

King: “Like how?”

Aziz: “Who’s selling oil instead of Iraq? Iraq had a share in the oil market. That share was stopped by the sanctions. Who is selling that?”

King: “Who?”

Aziz: “They knew very well that Saudi Arabia jumped from five million barrels a day to eight million barrels a day. Three million barrels, Iraq’s share, have been added to the share of Saudi Arabia.”

King: “And we would take this to a war front to protect Saudi Arabia’s making more money?”

Aziz: “No. You are sharing that money, everybody knows that.” *sips drink*

Larry looks stupefied..

RolandTD20Kdrummer

No comments on my last two posts (#306, #307) as to the "face value" "honest" or "excellent job" the Gulf war was?

no?

hmm