Citizens Arrested For Reading The Constitution

Marbles

jlew24asu wrote:

for some yes. A professional sports arena benefits many. its a fine line to be drawn somewhere. whats best for the public and whats not. obviously the people should decide. and if they cant, they should have a successful chance at challenging it.

lets say eminent domain was decided by the people. open vote for people in the city. taken to ballot every few months or something. (just hypothetical) . many cases the person will lose only cuz many people will only see benefit from it, while loosing nothing.

The average sports arena is used how many DAYS per year? In Cincinnati, they bumped the largest produce distributor, the one that most restaurants used, to put in a football stadium. How many NFL games does a team play in a year? How many are home games? That did NOT replace the produce distributor, or the other businesses wiped out.

If eminent domain was decided by a popular vote, that is the tyranny of the majority. Should I take your home to make a water park? No? Hey, everyone else, should we take that home to put in a really cool water park? Gee, they said "yes".

mammasan

jlew24asu wrote:

for some yes. A professional sports arena benefits many. its a fine line to be drawn somewhere. whats best for the public and whats not. obviously the people should decide. and if they cant, they should have a successful chance at challenging it.

lets say eminent domain was decided by the people. open vote for people in the city. taken to ballot every few months or something. (just hypothetical) . many cases the person will lose only cuz many people will only see benefit from it, while loosing nothing.

A sports arena does benefit many and putting it to a vote would be the appropriate thing to do. The Prudential Center was put up for a vote for all of Essex county. So of course the people who lived outside of the affected area in Newark voted for it and they out numbered the people who where affected by the land grab. People who lived in their nice cushy homes in the out lying towns loved the idea of taking the land for the arena because it wasn't their property. They also didn't have to ffot the bill because the tax increase was only for the city of Newark.

jeffbr

Marbles wrote:

If eminent domain was decided by a popular vote, that is the tyranny of the majority.

Yes, it is. It is really hard for me to get behind a program that discards individual liberty and property rights for "the greater good" especially when "the greater good" is a some sort of entertainment venue. Total bullshit. If the government give you a price that you find acceptable, great! If the government, through threat of force and coercion decides for you, bullshit!

jlew24asu

Marbles wrote:

The average sports arena is used how many DAYS per year? In Cincinnati, they bumped the largest produce distributor, the one that most restaurants used, to put in a football stadium. How many NFL games does a team play in a year? How many are home games? That did NOT replace the produce distributor, or the other businesses wiped out.

situations and circumstances are diffent in every case. I'm not advocating eminent domain, just having a discussion about it.

Marbles wrote:

If eminent domain was decided by a popular vote, that is the tyranny of the majority. Should I take your home to make a water park? No? Hey, everyone else, should we take that home to put in a really cool water park? Gee, they said "yes".

if its bad for the government to decide and bad for people to vote, who decides?

jeffbr

jlew24asu wrote:

if its bad for the government to decide and bad for people to vote, who decides?

The property owner.

If majority rules, can we all vote to have you surrender your salary to the rest of us?

I guess I don't support looting, no matter how much of the popular vote it garners.

Marbles

jeffbr wrote:

The property owner.

If majority rules, can we all vote to have you surrender your salary to the rest of us?

I guess I don't support looting, no matter how much of the popular vote it garners.

When you rob Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul!

Dang, you sound like a Libertarian!

jeffbr

Marbles wrote:

When you rob Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul!

One of my favorite quotes!

Marbles wrote:

Dang, you sound like a Libertarian!

Guilty as charged.

Marbles

jeffbr wrote:

One of my favorite quotes!



Guilty as charged.

Big L Libertarian, or little l libertarian?

Big L here. I pay. I put my $ where my BIG mouth is...

jeffbr

Marbles wrote:

Big L Libertarian, or little l libertarian?

Big L here. I pay. I put my $ where my BIG mouth is...

Big L. I get the newletter, too!

jlew24asu

jeffbr wrote:

The property owner.

If majority rules, can we all vote to have you surrender your salary to the rest of us?

I guess I don't support looting, no matter how much of the popular vote it garners.

cool. I agree with that.

catefrances

jlew24asu wrote:

o come on. tell us how u really feel. wait, dont. I might know the answer

i doubt it. unless you're a mindreader or actually read my posts and know where i'm coming from.

but by all means feel free to share and prove me wrong.

know1

MrSmith wrote:

i bet people in Bhurma feel so sorry for Americans living under such oppression.

Isn't it called Myanmar now?