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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    g under p wrote:
    His lawyer speaks, never said or implied he crazy, he's too bright for that. However I'd like to see him start a thread any thread on any subject.

    Now go on with your bad selves.

    Peace

    i've started my fair share of threads

    http://forums.pearljam.com/search.php?searchid=1646272


    but like I said, this crazy vid posted by roland claims NO plane hit the building. :confused: it claims it was a media driven illusion.

    here ya go, was this guy in on it too?
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=BjbhLuf-PSg&mode=related&search=
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    jlew24asu wrote:
    i've started my fair share of threads

    http://forums.pearljam.com/search.php?searchid=1646272


    but like I said, this crazy vid posted by roland claims NO plane hit the building. :confused: it claims it was a media driven illusion.

    here ya go, was this guy in on it too?
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=BjbhLuf-PSg&mode=related&search=

    I'll have to check it later I gotta go.

    You have a nice day, rumour has it's so.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • stu gee
    stu gee Posts: 1,174
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Give this a watch:

    Part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeIVD5wT4KE

    parts 2,3,4,5,6,7 are also are available

    .

    Maybe nothing happened on 9/11 at all and it was all an illusion achieved by smoke and mirrors. Maybe it is all part of a much larger conspiracy, something so large we cant even comprehend.

    I dont think it is but i like putting these kinds of ideas in conspiracy nut's heads in the off chance that they just overload with paranoia and explode.

    Trust no-one.
    People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    jlew24asu wrote:
    i've started my fair share of threads

    http://forums.pearljam.com/search.php?searchid=1646272

    The Live African Wildlife Webcam will always and forever be one of the greatest threads ever on the message board.
    E8toX.gif

    http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    ledvedderman wrote:
    The Live African Wildlife Webcam will always and forever be one of the greatest threads ever on the message board.

    bump tha shit!
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    wow I have seen some conspiracy crap before but this one takes the cake. do you really, I mean really, buy this garbage? you and drifitin need parental controls on youtube and google video. its taken full control of you.

    Yeah right...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Yeah right...

    so you really believe NO plane hit the building?? all an illusion huh? yea, the american media has me hook line and sinker :rolleyes:
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    so you really believe NO plane hit the building?? all an illusion huh? yea, the american media has me hook line and sinker :rolleyes:

    All the video presented on 9/11 would have to be faked and manipulated for them to be able to go on about it for 7+ parts. It's a multi part video showing examples of what they say is freely available in archives and recorded on people's VCR's as official news footage.

    The makers would have to by lying flat out, and lying huge at that. I'll look around to see if it's debunked, but either way someone is telling a rather massive untruth.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    All the video presented on 9/11 would have to be faked and manipulated for them to be able to go on about it for 7+ parts. It's a multi part video showing examples of what they say is freely available in archives and recorded on people's VCR's as official news footage.

    The makers would have to by lying flat out, and lying huge at that. I'll look around to see if it's debunked, but either way someone is telling a rather massive untruth.

    well obviously you must believe they are telling the truth. otherwise im not sure why you would post such nonsense.

    but please spare me more youtube-ness of debunking it. its not needed. if you need youtube to debunk something like that, you need help.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    well obviously you must believe they are telling the truth. otherwise im not sure why you would post such nonsense.

    but please spare me more youtube-ness of debunking it. its not needed. if you need youtube to debunk something like that, you need help.


    You mean your response should have been. "Yes, someone is obviously lying".
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    You mean your response should have been. "Yes, someone is obviously lying".

    sorry. the laughable video you posted is full of lies. its not even lies, I dont know what you call it. foolishness maybe?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sorry. the laughable video you posted is full of lies. its not even lies, I dont know what you call it. foolishness maybe?


    It claims to be all original news footage. I had it sent to me just last night.

    Would anyone else like to shed some legitimate thoughtful insight into it's creation or existence or hoax therein.

    I'd like to discuss it. I haven't made up my mind yet.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    It claims to be all original news footage. I had it sent to me just last night.

    Would anyone else like to shed some legitimate thoughtful insight into it's creation or existence or hoax therein.

    I'd like to discuss it. I haven't made up my mind yet.

    you havent made up your mind? the video is claiming NO plane hit the towers. how can you let a youtube video infect your mind so bad.

    dude, planes hit those buildings. end of discussion.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you havent made up your mind? the video is claiming NO plane hit the towers. how can you let a youtube video infect your mind so bad.

    dude, planes hit those buildings. end of discussion.

    For you it is.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    For you it is.

    so you actually believe (or want to) that planes did NOT hit the buildings?? simple question.

    I can see what you mean by the brainwashing photoshoped image..

    http://knighthospitilar.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/911-attack.gif
  • Bushleaguer28
    Bushleaguer28 Posts: 776
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    No they are/were not. Weaken steel temporarily yes, (steel also regains it's strength when the heat is removed) but melt it...no way..not even close. The was an "open air" fire. This is not under consideration as a possibility in the investigation. You do know about NIST and FEMA and their reports right? the "official" reports? They also say it was impossible, and for very obvious reasons.


    Weaken the steel is specifically the point - if the steel was to weaken, all the weight of the portion of the building above the crash would have collapsed on itself, which is preceisely what probably happened. And there is no way that the weakened steel would have had the time and conditions to re-strengthen itself after the crash before the building went down.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    so you actually believe (or want to) that planes did NOT hit the buildings?? simple question.

    I can see what you mean by the brainwashing photoshoped image..

    http://knighthospitilar.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/911-attack.gif


    I'm just saying for it to be true (September Clues) what they are saying, they would have had to personally fake and edit all of the footage. It would be extremely easily proven by so many as an outright hoax.

    I'm not sure they would even bother to waste their time doing it, because it would be shot down in seconds.

    There is amateur video (the Hezarkani tape) shot from Battery park with all kinds of problems in it.

    Many average Joe public's have this same video recorded on their VCR's. I'm not sure why someone would attempt to even try to waste their time to fake this. Again something is not as it seems.

    This explains it better:
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6266736533420391261&q=battery+park+fake&total=6&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

    .
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Bushleaguer28 wrote:
    Weaken the steel is specifically the point - if the steel was to weaken, all the weight of the portion of the building above the crash would have collapsed on itself, which is preceisely what probably happened. And there is no way that the weakened steel would have had the time and conditions to re-strengthen itself after the crash before the building went down.

    Why not?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • Bushleaguer28
    Bushleaguer28 Posts: 776
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Why not?

    So by your thinking if you heat and weaken steel and then continue to put the same if not a greater amount of heat on that same piece of steel it will magically become immune to the heat and be able to re-strengthen itself . . . . interesting
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Why not?

    from the fire, damage, and weight of the structure above it.

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