There's a reason these conspiracy theories are ignored by virtually everyone in the mainstream media -- and no, it's not because Bush has them in his pocket -- it's because, as much as I'd hate to admit it, the rest of the country isn't that stupid.
Wow, I'll try and stay away from insults, but seriously, if you believe the mainstream media isn't politically biased, you bring new meaning to the word naive.
I'll reiterate an earlier point since it's been ignored by so many people; it's a known fact that the terrorists explicitly stated they had bombs, and widely agreed upon that they did indeed. If incendiary bombs were used that would explain a number of things -- the melted steel, delayed explosions, fire -- all of which ultimately led to the collapse.
Good points. Although, to give up on logic and fact (or at least better questions) to breach the American conscience via the mainstream media is to give up entirely.
In my book, giving up is not a choice.
Are you implying we should spend tax dollars on a new investigation to appease a diminutive minority? 99.9% of the country is content with the conclusions previous 9/11 investigations have come to -- do you think they'll pay for more?
It doesn't matter anyways, no matter how many investigations the government conducts, they'll be dismissed for the sole purpose of being funded by the U.S. government, and I don't think private organizations will be able to obtain necessary access to thoroughly investigate certain aspects of the tower collapse -- so again, what would you propose for future investigations?
Wow, I'll try and stay away from insults, but seriously, if you believe the mainstream media isn't politically biased, you bring new meaning to the word naive.
Care to explain how believing the media is less biased than the 9/11 conspiracy mongers accuse them of being equates to the media not being politically biased?
wow I have seen some conspiracy crap before but this one takes the cake. do you really, I mean really, buy this garbage? you and drifitin need parental controls on youtube and google video. its taken full control of you.
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wow I have seen some conspiracy crap before but this one takes the cake. do you really, I mean really, buy this garbage? you and drifitin need parental controls on youtube and google video. its taken full control of you.
WOW, why don't you EVER start a thread of your own to prove your side of this equation??? Why don't you all you EVER do is throw worthless bitching words to the wind, go sit in your coop and contemplate other CT's as you may put it.
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
WOW, why don't you EVER start a thread of your own to prove your side of this equation??? Why don't you all you EVER do is throw worthless bitching words to the wind, go sit in your coop and contemplate other CT's as you may put it.
Peace
what do you want me to do, start a thread showing another video of planes hitting the buildings? cuz thats what I believe happened.
this wacky video is trying to claim that didnt happen. yea, im the crazy one
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what do you want me to do, start a thread showing another video of planes hitting the buildings? cuz thats what I believe happened.
this wacky video is trying to claim that didnt happen. yea, im the crazy one
Yeah you just might be only you would know I gather?
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Well, there are definitely crazies posting on the Paranoia Train, but Jlew doesn't seem to be one of them.
His lawyer speaks, never said or implied he crazy, he's too bright for that. However I'd like to see him start a thread any thread on any subject.
Now go on with your bad selves.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Maybe nothing happened on 9/11 at all and it was all an illusion achieved by smoke and mirrors. Maybe it is all part of a much larger conspiracy, something so large we cant even comprehend.
I dont think it is but i like putting these kinds of ideas in conspiracy nut's heads in the off chance that they just overload with paranoia and explode.
Trust no-one.
People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.
wow I have seen some conspiracy crap before but this one takes the cake. do you really, I mean really, buy this garbage? you and drifitin need parental controls on youtube and google video. its taken full control of you.
Yeah right...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
so you really believe NO plane hit the building?? all an illusion huh? yea, the american media has me hook line and sinker :rolleyes:
All the video presented on 9/11 would have to be faked and manipulated for them to be able to go on about it for 7+ parts. It's a multi part video showing examples of what they say is freely available in archives and recorded on people's VCR's as official news footage.
The makers would have to by lying flat out, and lying huge at that. I'll look around to see if it's debunked, but either way someone is telling a rather massive untruth.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
All the video presented on 9/11 would have to be faked and manipulated for them to be able to go on about it for 7+ parts. It's a multi part video showing examples of what they say is freely available in archives and recorded on people's VCR's as official news footage.
The makers would have to by lying flat out, and lying huge at that. I'll look around to see if it's debunked, but either way someone is telling a rather massive untruth.
well obviously you must believe they are telling the truth. otherwise im not sure why you would post such nonsense.
but please spare me more youtube-ness of debunking it. its not needed. if you need youtube to debunk something like that, you need help.
well obviously you must believe they are telling the truth. otherwise im not sure why you would post such nonsense.
but please spare me more youtube-ness of debunking it. its not needed. if you need youtube to debunk something like that, you need help.
You mean your response should have been. "Yes, someone is obviously lying".
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
sorry. the laughable video you posted is full of lies. its not even lies, I dont know what you call it. foolishness maybe?
It claims to be all original news footage. I had it sent to me just last night.
Would anyone else like to shed some legitimate thoughtful insight into it's creation or existence or hoax therein.
I'd like to discuss it. I haven't made up my mind yet.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
you havent made up your mind? the video is claiming NO plane hit the towers. how can you let a youtube video infect your mind so bad.
dude, planes hit those buildings. end of discussion.
For you it is.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
No they are/were not. Weaken steel temporarily yes, (steel also regains it's strength when the heat is removed) but melt it...no way..not even close. The was an "open air" fire. This is not under consideration as a possibility in the investigation. You do know about NIST and FEMA and their reports right? the "official" reports? They also say it was impossible, and for very obvious reasons.
Weaken the steel is specifically the point - if the steel was to weaken, all the weight of the portion of the building above the crash would have collapsed on itself, which is preceisely what probably happened. And there is no way that the weakened steel would have had the time and conditions to re-strengthen itself after the crash before the building went down.
I'm just saying for it to be true (September Clues) what they are saying, they would have had to personally fake and edit all of the footage. It would be extremely easily proven by so many as an outright hoax.
I'm not sure they would even bother to waste their time doing it, because it would be shot down in seconds.
There is amateur video (the Hezarkani tape) shot from Battery park with all kinds of problems in it.
Many average Joe public's have this same video recorded on their VCR's. I'm not sure why someone would attempt to even try to waste their time to fake this. Again something is not as it seems.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Weaken the steel is specifically the point - if the steel was to weaken, all the weight of the portion of the building above the crash would have collapsed on itself, which is preceisely what probably happened. And there is no way that the weakened steel would have had the time and conditions to re-strengthen itself after the crash before the building went down.
Why not?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
So by your thinking if you heat and weaken steel and then continue to put the same if not a greater amount of heat on that same piece of steel it will magically become immune to the heat and be able to re-strengthen itself . . . . interesting
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Wow, I'll try and stay away from insults, but seriously, if you believe the mainstream media isn't politically biased, you bring new meaning to the word naive.
thanks for the link
just watched part 1
Are you implying we should spend tax dollars on a new investigation to appease a diminutive minority? 99.9% of the country is content with the conclusions previous 9/11 investigations have come to -- do you think they'll pay for more?
It doesn't matter anyways, no matter how many investigations the government conducts, they'll be dismissed for the sole purpose of being funded by the U.S. government, and I don't think private organizations will be able to obtain necessary access to thoroughly investigate certain aspects of the tower collapse -- so again, what would you propose for future investigations?
Care to explain how believing the media is less biased than the 9/11 conspiracy mongers accuse them of being equates to the media not being politically biased?
wow I have seen some conspiracy crap before but this one takes the cake. do you really, I mean really, buy this garbage? you and drifitin need parental controls on youtube and google video. its taken full control of you.
WOW, why don't you EVER start a thread of your own to prove your side of this equation??? Why don't you all you EVER do is throw worthless bitching words to the wind, go sit in your coop and contemplate other CT's as you may put it.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
what do you want me to do, start a thread showing another video of planes hitting the buildings? cuz thats what I believe happened.
this wacky video is trying to claim that didnt happen. yea, im the crazy one
Yeah you just might be only you would know I gather?
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Well, there are definitely crazies posting on the Paranoia Train, but Jlew doesn't seem to be one of them.
that makes no sense.
His lawyer speaks, never said or implied he crazy, he's too bright for that. However I'd like to see him start a thread any thread on any subject.
Now go on with your bad selves.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
i've started my fair share of threads
http://forums.pearljam.com/search.php?searchid=1646272
but like I said, this crazy vid posted by roland claims NO plane hit the building.
here ya go, was this guy in on it too?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BjbhLuf-PSg&mode=related&search=
I'll have to check it later I gotta go.
You have a nice day, rumour has it's so.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Maybe nothing happened on 9/11 at all and it was all an illusion achieved by smoke and mirrors. Maybe it is all part of a much larger conspiracy, something so large we cant even comprehend.
I dont think it is but i like putting these kinds of ideas in conspiracy nut's heads in the off chance that they just overload with paranoia and explode.
Trust no-one.
The Live African Wildlife Webcam will always and forever be one of the greatest threads ever on the message board.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
bump tha shit!
Yeah right...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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so you really believe NO plane hit the building?? all an illusion huh? yea, the american media has me hook line and sinker :rolleyes:
All the video presented on 9/11 would have to be faked and manipulated for them to be able to go on about it for 7+ parts. It's a multi part video showing examples of what they say is freely available in archives and recorded on people's VCR's as official news footage.
The makers would have to by lying flat out, and lying huge at that. I'll look around to see if it's debunked, but either way someone is telling a rather massive untruth.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
well obviously you must believe they are telling the truth. otherwise im not sure why you would post such nonsense.
but please spare me more youtube-ness of debunking it. its not needed. if you need youtube to debunk something like that, you need help.
You mean your response should have been. "Yes, someone is obviously lying".
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
sorry. the laughable video you posted is full of lies. its not even lies, I dont know what you call it. foolishness maybe?
It claims to be all original news footage. I had it sent to me just last night.
Would anyone else like to shed some legitimate thoughtful insight into it's creation or existence or hoax therein.
I'd like to discuss it. I haven't made up my mind yet.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
you havent made up your mind? the video is claiming NO plane hit the towers. how can you let a youtube video infect your mind so bad.
dude, planes hit those buildings. end of discussion.
For you it is.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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so you actually believe (or want to) that planes did NOT hit the buildings?? simple question.
I can see what you mean by the brainwashing photoshoped image..
http://knighthospitilar.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/911-attack.gif
Weaken the steel is specifically the point - if the steel was to weaken, all the weight of the portion of the building above the crash would have collapsed on itself, which is preceisely what probably happened. And there is no way that the weakened steel would have had the time and conditions to re-strengthen itself after the crash before the building went down.
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I'm just saying for it to be true (September Clues) what they are saying, they would have had to personally fake and edit all of the footage. It would be extremely easily proven by so many as an outright hoax.
I'm not sure they would even bother to waste their time doing it, because it would be shot down in seconds.
There is amateur video (the Hezarkani tape) shot from Battery park with all kinds of problems in it.
Many average Joe public's have this same video recorded on their VCR's. I'm not sure why someone would attempt to even try to waste their time to fake this. Again something is not as it seems.
This explains it better:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6266736533420391261&q=battery+park+fake&total=6&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
(")_(")
Why not?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
So by your thinking if you heat and weaken steel and then continue to put the same if not a greater amount of heat on that same piece of steel it will magically become immune to the heat and be able to re-strengthen itself . . . . interesting
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from the fire, damage, and weight of the structure above it.