Getting Busted for Pot Can Cost Your Right to Vote...and more

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  • hsewif
    hsewif Posts: 444
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    One day the lightbulb will go off.

    Probably after a bong hit? :)
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    hsewif wrote:
    Why would the average pot smoker need to have that much on them at once? And if they did, why do something stupid and get busted with it?

    like everything, it's cheaper in bulk.
    an ounce of pot will last the average smoker a paycheck or three, that's not a heavy user. I know people that buy a lot more than that for personal, because they live out of town...something as simple as your headlight burning out on the way home could change your life....a hero cop and a hardass judge, yer in BIG trouble.
    It's not like it's all reckless teens and gangstas running around with qp's n pagers....there are a lot of everyday people that have that much on them for short periods of time.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    hsewif wrote:
    Probably after a bong hit? :)

    lol..yeah I suppose something like that. It took me a quite a few documentaries, videos, and articles on the history to realize it all stems way back to the 1920's (in America).

    First they said it turns people into violent, delusional, psychopaths (no exaggeration) and makes people want to murder everyone. Then they put out reports that it makes people extremely depressed, suicidal and useless....just hopeless permanent losers. Now the say it makes people insane and gives people schizophrenia?! Over and over again this goes in cycles. New "reports" come out, and back and forth they go...round and round. Which is it?

    Well...none of them in reality.

    I don't get it. Someone up there really, really, (really) hates it for some reason, and it's become so obvious to me now that it's all on purpose. All the studies are skewed, and lie after lie is driven into the public conscious, while so many things that really do harm us are remain under our noses 24/7. It blows me away.

    It's laughable what the media continues to come up with, to make it look so terrifying, so dangerous, so evil...you really have to wonder why.
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

    I don't get it. Someone up there really, really, (really) hates it for some reason, and it's become so obvious to me now that it's all on purpose. All the studies are skewed, and lie after lie is driven into the public conscious, while so many things that really do harm us are remain under our noses 24/7. It blows me away.
    There is more money and potential for personal/political gain in keeping it illegal. the budget is enormous....people skim from every other aspect of government funding, why would the WOD be any different? Then there are property seizures, backroom deals with organized crime and different levels of governments, both foreign and domestic (for turning a blind eye AND involvement)....a MASSIVE lobby from a multitude of industries, against whatever drug or plant would harm their bottom line...it's all a way of controlling the money flow. There is no way the people at the top of the food chain aren't tapped into this trillion dollar industry.

    I don't think it would be very easy to regulate any kind of decrim/legalization. Once the laws were off the books, people would challenge everything (esp if the laws fell on rights issues)...I don't know how long the tax cow would be milkable...it would just crumble into hobby users and growers...like it should be.
  • 1970RR
    1970RR Posts: 281
    hsewif wrote:
    no, it's not... but if you're smoking that much, you have big problems!

    -and maybe I am "conditioned". I don't need pot to get through the day. When I run out, I don't have heart-palipitations or steal from others to buy more.

    edit-I'm not missing the comparison. 30 grams should equal much more than 30 joints. Try like 60 or more. Why would the average pot smoker need to have that much on them at once? And if they did, why do something stupid and get busted with it?
    30 grams is a little more than an ounce - not that much pot at all. One reason for carrying it may be that it was just purchased and being transported home.
    Most states use 1 ounce as the cut off point between simple possession and more serious charges.
    So keep it under 27 grams when travelling.
  • pjforever
    pjforever Posts: 14
    depending on how it is packaged, usually, if you have 30 grams on you, you are selling it to your friends to pay for your own head and there ain't nothing wrong with that.....ain't no way your tolerance is gonna make you smoke anything more than 1-2 or maybe 3 grams tops in a day. ain't no way.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    "By Silja J.A. Talvi, In These Times. Posted July 31, 2007.

    Once you've been arrested for the harsh anti-marijuana laws on the books, you can be denied everything from food stamps to voting rights to the right to adopt a child."

    This is interesting...

    http://www.alternet.org/rights/58346/


    I guess you way the pros and cons and make a choice, eh?
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  • pjtaper
    pjtaper Posts: 3,020
    hippiemom wrote:
    It's beyond ridiculous that we put people in prison for marijuana. What a waste.
    I went to jail for 45 days due to pot... had a lot though...
    I almost missed a PJ show because of this, ALMOST, but I made it to Champaign, 2nd row RIGHT IN FRONT OF MIKE, and they played Deep...
    The day after the Indy 03 show, my ass went to jail!
  • pjtaper
    pjtaper Posts: 3,020
    I read more of the thread... I always wonder, if it becomes legal, who am I going to call first to go off on... after all the bullshit I was put through just for pot, I'm still a little bitter!
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    hippiemom wrote:
    It's beyond ridiculous that we put people in prison for marijuana. What a waste.
    It is a waste. But equally it's a waste for people to knowingly break the law and then complain about the consequences and act as if they've been violated or live in a police state.

    When I get pulled over for speeding I don't give the cop shit or act like I live in a repressive country. I shut up and pay the ticket. I amy even write my member of parliament about our speed limits on certainstretches of highway.

    We all live in a society where for better or worse we've agreed to give up certain freedoms for ourselves in rder to ahev a semblance of law and order. it ain't perfect and it needs continuous work. But I have zero sympathy for people who willingly and knowingly break the law then bitch about the very well publicized consequences.
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  • pjtaper
    pjtaper Posts: 3,020
    my friends always said how much safer they felt knowing I wasn't free to smoke pot!
  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    "By Silja J.A. Talvi, In These Times. Posted July 31, 2007.

    Once you've been arrested for the harsh anti-marijuana laws on the books, you can be denied everything from food stamps to voting rights to the right to adopt a child."

    This is interesting...

    http://www.alternet.org/rights/58346/

    yep, makes you wonder why people would still choose to smoke pot while it's illegal.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    hippiemom wrote:
    It's beyond ridiculous that we put people in prison for marijuana. What a waste.

    I tend to agree, but on the flip-side, it's ridiculous that people will risk jail time for marijuana.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    yup, just shut up and take it folks...

    how dare someone want to use something that has pretty much no negative side effects...!! how dare someone make a personal decision that only effects them....

    please feel free to enjoy you booze and smokes...after you pick up you prescription of xanax...
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    surferdude wrote:
    It is a waste. But equally it's a waste for people to knowingly break the law and then complain about the consequences and act as if they've been violated or live in a police state.

    When I get pulled over for speeding I don't give the cop shit or act like I live in a repressive country. I shut up and pay the ticket. I amy even write my member of parliament about our speed limits on certainstretches of highway.

    We all live in a society where for better or worse we've agreed to give up certain freedoms for ourselves in rder to ahev a semblance of law and order. it ain't perfect and it needs continuous work. But I have zero sympathy for people who willingly and knowingly break the law then bitch about the very well publicized consequences.


    yea but your speeding affects the public at large......if i'm sitting in my house smoking a fatty, who am i harming except for maybe myself?
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    The people who say it's silly or stupid that people break the law or risk jail time for pot, do you think pot should be illegal?
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  • Skitch Patterson
    Skitch Patterson Posts: 642
    Collin wrote:
    The people who say it's silly or stupid that people break the law or risk jail time for pot, do you think pot should be illegal?


    until they come up with a way for non-invasive instant test for it, yes, it should remain illegal.
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    Collin wrote:
    The people who say it's silly or stupid that people break the law or risk jail time for pot, do you think pot should be illegal?
    I want it legalized and taxed just as much as booze. But I only want it legalized if they also implemement an easy to administer driving under the influence test and limit.

    I'm all for people using their deomcratic rights to try to change the laws. More power to you. But while pot is still illegal you have to be retarded to be bitching about the consequences of getting caught with it. You know the consequences but will still do it. Pretty much makes you an addict right there. When getting high becomes more important than all the possible consequences if you get caught you have a problem.
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    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Skitch Patterson wrote:
    until they come up with a way for non-invasive instant test for it, yes, it should remain illegal.

    I'll agree with this. I don't really care whether it's illegal, but we should be able to quickly test for it for driving, work, etc.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    surferdude wrote:
    I want it legalized and taxed just as much as booze. But I only want it legalized if they also implemement an easy to administer driving under the influence test and limit.

    I'm all for people using their deomcratic rights to try to change the laws. More power to you. But while pot is still illegal you have to be retarded to be bitching about the consequences of getting caught with it. You know the consequences but will still do it. Pretty much makes you an addict right there. When getting high becomes more important than all the possible consequences if you get caught you have a problem.

    um....you're ok with people using "deomcratic rights", yet a person who uses those rights is "retarded"....

    go figure....:rolleyes:

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