i remember many years back there being talk about the proctor and gamble logo and that it had some satanic significance or something. whether it ws proved/disproved...no idea. actually do most really *know* what ANy logos *mean*...if they mean anything at all?
Since information on all of these secret symbols is all easily obtained public information, no rights are being infringed upon. An "informed" consumer knows what they mean.
cmon now, you're talking common sense!
seriously, i see more important discussion on what the various terminology for fat levels, being organic, etc, and the confusion over those issues, etc. it IS up to the consumer to be 'educated'.....and the information IS out there.
if you really think buying kosher does that......well then, be sure to avoid kosher foods.
i have never viewed buying kosher foods in such light, ever.
although at last, at least you have some 'compelling arguement'...finally. however, i know you said it's been hinted as such, but i have NOT ever seen/heard any evidence that in FACt ANY money supports the jews at ALL. a rabbi getting paid to bless food is not directly benefitting a religious organization, only benefitting the rabbi.
btw - just how MUCH info do you want these labels to contain? is *certified kosher* and the organization who does the certification enough? beyond that, people would have to be informed just WHAT kosher means, and/or something about the organization. kinda like how we actually have to KNOW what 'trans fats' are to actually give a shite if a product has em or not.
Ther's a lot of Rabbi's employed to do this eh?
The money they make almost certainly trickles into Israel and it's policies as religious offerings. Some of it most certainly.
I'm a big fan of words. If this is possible great...maybe it isn't. I think it is.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
i remember many years back there being talk about the proctor and gamble logo and that it had some satanic significance or something. whether it ws proved/disproved...no idea. actually do most really *know* what ANy logos *mean*...if they mean anything at all?
I have no idea about that, seems unlikely, but anything is possible with some corporations.
P&G advertises their logo in TV commercials so it's definitely out there in the public consciousness.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I have a problem with both of those....even worse.
What are they on?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
The money they make almost certainly trickles into Israel and it's policies as religious offerings. Some of it most certainly.
I'm a big fan of words. If this is possible great...maybe it isn't. I think it is.
and i think that is quite an assumption and nothing more and this point. i don't base too many things on assumptions, i try to make informed choices. again, i don't have a problem with buying kosher foods, perhaps you do...so then don't buy em. i really have never met anyone who cared, nor took issue with the labels. again, if you really think it Is an issue, then start writing! that is the only way it'll change. i can see YOU desiring more clear labeling. i wouldn't have a problem with that either. actually, either way, all good to me.
as to the P&G thing, it was actually before the internet! :eek: it was a big *thing*.....more than likely a myth, but who knows?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
and i think that is quite an assumption and nothing more and this point. i don't base too many things on assumptions, i try to make informed choices. again, i don't have a problem with buying kosher foods, perhaps you do...so then don't buy em. i really have never met anyone who cared, nor took issue with the labels. again, if you really think it Is an issue, then start writing! that is the only way it'll change. i can see YOU desiring more clear labeling. i wouldn't have a problem with that either. actually, either way, all good to me.
as to the P&G thing, it was actually before the internet! :eek: it was a big *thing*.....more than likely a myth, but who knows?
mammasan.........good work.
The question might be out of thousands of Rabbis' do you think ANY money is donated to Israel. Just going on laws of probability and statistics.
There's a few angles. This one is a little hotter to approach, but it exists. A lot of people disagree with Israel's policies.
also why some would never drop a cent to Hagee or any other televangelist for the Christian extremist angle.
Some prefer not to buy into extremism in any form (if it's possible)
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
So your problem is not that it's kosher but that some proceeds may or may not be making it back to support the Israeli government.
For some people yes I could see it being an issue.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
That symbols means that the food is gluten free. Again wouldn't really matter to you or I unless we had a gluten allergy, but I'm sure if we did have that allergy we would know exactly what that symbol meant. In fact we would look for precisely that symbol when we went food shopping. Sam goes for the organic produce labeling. If we only wanted to purchase and consume organic fruits and vegetables we would look for that little symbol on the packaging. In the world of marketing and advertising that is known as branding. A recognizable symbol that consumers can identify immediately. Since kosher food producers are not targeting us as their market we really don't need to notice that label but for their intended market that symbol is unmistakable. Same goes for the gluten free symbol or the organic food symbol. It's how the intended consumer identifies the product. If there was any type of additional additive to make it kosher or organic or gluten free it would be listed on the ingredients or nutrional label.
I'm sure Kineret Foods doesn't care weither you like the kosher symbol on their Ready-to-bake Challah bread packaging. You are not and never will be their intended consumer.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
For some people yes I could see it being an issue.
Then if they have a problem with that they had better start growing their own foods, raising their own meats and poultry, developing their own fuel, building their own homes, appliances, cars, providing their own power, etc… because in someway shape or form some money is going to go to someone or some place you don't agree with.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
That symbols means that the food is gluten free. Again wouldn't really matter to you or I unless we had a gluten allergy, but I'm sure if we did have that allergy we would know exactly what that symbol meant. In fact we would look for precisely that symbol when we went food shopping. Sam goes for the organic produce labeling. If we only wanted to purchase and consume organic fruits and vegetables we would look for that little symbol on the packaging. In the world of marketing and advertising that is known as branding. A recognizable symbol that consumers can identify immediately. Since kosher food producers are not targeting us as their market we really don't need to notice that label but for their intended market that symbol is unmistakable. Same goes for the gluten free symbol or the organic food symbol. It's how the intended consumer identifies the product. If there was any type of additional additive to make it kosher or organic or gluten free it would be listed on the ingredients or nutrional label.
I'm sure Kineret Foods doesn't care weither you like the kosher symbol on their Ready-to-bake Challah bread packaging. You are not and never will be their intended consumer.
You would have to show me all gluten free products only have that GF label (or variations) as standard practice. Every product I've seen that is gluten free says the words "gluten free" in big letters on it.
I look at all the labels on fruit and vegetables, and buy local whenever possible.
Every organic food item I've ever bought says the words organic on it...every time. You've shown me some labels, but have not proven the products they are on are not accompanied by some form of comprehensive lettering across the board as standard practice.
Organic always says organic from my experience. Usually gluten or allergy sensitive foods are placed together in a separate section in the supermarket as well.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Then if they have a problem with that they had better start growing their own foods, raising their own meats and poultry, developing their own fuel, building their own homes, appliances, cars, providing their own power, etc… because in someway shape or form some money is going to go to someone or some place you don't agree with.
As goes the old adage what people don't know won't hurt them. What do you when you find out buying Nike shoes supports sweat shop labor? Keep buying them?
pick and choose I guess..
In the same breath, personally I knowingly buy foods with kosher labels on them if the food is a quality buy nutritionally speaking.
Good food is good food in that sense,
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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i remember many years back there being talk about the proctor and gamble logo and that it had some satanic significance or something. whether it ws proved/disproved...no idea. actually do most really *know* what ANy logos *mean*...if they mean anything at all?
cmon now, you're talking common sense!
seriously, i see more important discussion on what the various terminology for fat levels, being organic, etc, and the confusion over those issues, etc. it IS up to the consumer to be 'educated'.....and the information IS out there.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Ther's a lot of Rabbi's employed to do this eh?
The money they make almost certainly trickles into Israel and it's policies as religious offerings. Some of it most certainly.
I'm a big fan of words. If this is possible great...maybe it isn't. I think it is.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I have no idea about that, seems unlikely, but anything is possible with some corporations.
P&G advertises their logo in TV commercials so it's definitely out there in the public consciousness.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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more so now...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I have a problem with both of those....even worse.
What are they on?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Organic foods.
The top one is from the Demeter Organization that certifies organic fruits and vegetables. The lower one is Oregon Tilth which does the same.
I also have another one for you.
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and i think that is quite an assumption and nothing more and this point. i don't base too many things on assumptions, i try to make informed choices. again, i don't have a problem with buying kosher foods, perhaps you do...so then don't buy em. i really have never met anyone who cared, nor took issue with the labels. again, if you really think it Is an issue, then start writing! that is the only way it'll change. i can see YOU desiring more clear labeling. i wouldn't have a problem with that either. actually, either way, all good to me.
as to the P&G thing, it was actually before the internet! :eek: it was a big *thing*.....more than likely a myth, but who knows?
mammasan.........good work.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
also sucks. bad labelling
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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So your problem is not that it's kosher but that some proceeds may or may not be making it back to support the Israeli government.
The question might be out of thousands of Rabbis' do you think ANY money is donated to Israel. Just going on laws of probability and statistics.
There's a few angles. This one is a little hotter to approach, but it exists. A lot of people disagree with Israel's policies.
also why some would never drop a cent to Hagee or any other televangelist for the Christian extremist angle.
Some prefer not to buy into extremism in any form (if it's possible)
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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For some people yes I could see it being an issue.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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That symbols means that the food is gluten free. Again wouldn't really matter to you or I unless we had a gluten allergy, but I'm sure if we did have that allergy we would know exactly what that symbol meant. In fact we would look for precisely that symbol when we went food shopping. Sam goes for the organic produce labeling. If we only wanted to purchase and consume organic fruits and vegetables we would look for that little symbol on the packaging. In the world of marketing and advertising that is known as branding. A recognizable symbol that consumers can identify immediately. Since kosher food producers are not targeting us as their market we really don't need to notice that label but for their intended market that symbol is unmistakable. Same goes for the gluten free symbol or the organic food symbol. It's how the intended consumer identifies the product. If there was any type of additional additive to make it kosher or organic or gluten free it would be listed on the ingredients or nutrional label.
I'm sure Kineret Foods doesn't care weither you like the kosher symbol on their Ready-to-bake Challah bread packaging. You are not and never will be their intended consumer.
Then if they have a problem with that they had better start growing their own foods, raising their own meats and poultry, developing their own fuel, building their own homes, appliances, cars, providing their own power, etc… because in someway shape or form some money is going to go to someone or some place you don't agree with.
You would have to show me all gluten free products only have that GF label (or variations) as standard practice. Every product I've seen that is gluten free says the words "gluten free" in big letters on it.
I look at all the labels on fruit and vegetables, and buy local whenever possible.
Every organic food item I've ever bought says the words organic on it...every time. You've shown me some labels, but have not proven the products they are on are not accompanied by some form of comprehensive lettering across the board as standard practice.
Organic always says organic from my experience. Usually gluten or allergy sensitive foods are placed together in a separate section in the supermarket as well.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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As goes the old adage what people don't know won't hurt them. What do you when you find out buying Nike shoes supports sweat shop labor? Keep buying them?
pick and choose I guess..
In the same breath, personally I knowingly buy foods with kosher labels on them if the food is a quality buy nutritionally speaking.
Good food is good food in that sense,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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