Do you know you're buying and eating certified Kosher food all the time?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Take a look for these symbols next time you're at the grocery store. In Canada you'll find the U, the MK, and the COR amongst others.

Essentially all ice creams, cooking oils, ketchup, pickles, beets....the list is rather expansive.

http://kosherfood.about.com/od/guidetokosherfoodlabels/ss/symbols.htm

Look for yourself next time you go grocery shopping. You might be rather surprised how much of your pantry is already kosher
http://web.mit.edu/burton2/kosher_symbols%5E1.jpg

You're paying an additional nominal fee for a Rabbi to certify these products.

Some argue it's supports Israel and their policies discretely. The verdict is still out for me.

Question: Do you think this is deceptive advertising?

my2hands

omg you need some help dude...


one track mind

RolandTD20Kdrummer

my2hands wrote:

omg you need some help dude...


one track mind

I asked if you've noticed or are even aware , and if you have, if you think it's deceptive advertising.

don't be a jerk if you can help it please..

RainDog

Didn't know. Didn't care.

Now that I do know, is it possible to care less?

Yes. Yes it is. I now officially care even less about Kosher food than I did before.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

RainDog wrote:

Didn't know. Didn't care.

Now that I do know, is it possible to care less?

Yes. Yes it is. I now officially care even less about Kosher food than I did before.

Certainly that's your right.

But question: How can one care less about not knowing what is it, if they don't know what is it they are caring less about in the first place?



lol

Abookamongstthemany

You have earned the contempt of the Obama crew and now you shall pay...


hahaha

RainDog

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Certainly that's your right.

But question: How can one care less about not knowing what is it, if they don't know what is it they are caring less about in the first place?



lol

I knew about Kosher food, but I didn't know there was so much of it. Now, knowing the sheer abundance of it makes it less impressive.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

RainDog wrote:

I knew about Kosher food, but I didn't know there was so much of it. Now, knowing the sheer abundance of it makes it less impressive.

Confused.

So you because you're not surprised, you expected yourself to be eating a lot of Kosher food either way, knowingly or not? Do you have no issues at all with how foods are labeled?

DeLukin

Apparently, this is a myth:

http://www.adl.org/special_reports/kosher_tax/print.asp

EDIT: According to the anti-defamation league

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

You have earned the contempt of the Obama crew and now you shall pay...


hahaha

RolandTD20Kdrummer

DeLukin wrote:

Apparently, this is a myth:

http://www.adl.org/special_reports/kosher_tax/print.asp

I've seen all those links, believe me.

That's the part where I said the verdict is still out for me.

The Kosher tax amounts are under dispute, however they are present, but the amount of Kosher food out there certainly is not.

in the same breath small margins on massive volume can amount to significant numbers.

Zanne

I'm not sure why we should care. If you are religious and this interferes with your beliefs, you likely would have already learned what to look for on the food labels. If not, I can't see why I would concern myself with food that is blessed by anyone's religious leaders. I eat Halal meats with my Muslim boss.. tastes the same, there are no additives except maybe a little prayer to make it edible for her based on her beliefs. I think that is why everyone is confused why this issue was even raised, or that it is even an issue at all.

Peace

Commy

actually as a chef kosher salt is probably the most important ingredient in my kitchen

decides2dream

i live in NY..of course i do.


thing is tho...advertising? stretching a bit there, no? advertising WHAT, exactly? that many jews like to eat kosher? i don't have a problem with any of it.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Commy wrote:

actually as a chef kosher salt is probably the most important ingredient in my kitchen

I use kosher salt and sea salt (I dunno same thing?). Why is the onus on the regular consumer to find this out instead of the other way around? I find that odd.

To be honest, I would never eat kosher meat.

Have you seen kosher animal slaughter? It's frickn nasty..

youtube it sometime... for cows they put em in a huge cage, flip the animal upside down, they slit it's throat, slice/rip out the trachea, the cage then opens where it falls out on to the floor flopping around choking until it dies.

If something is particular in it's preparation why is the onus on the norm to become aware of it?

In other words feel free to do whatever you want as long as it has nothing to do with me.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

decides2dream wrote:

i live in NY..of course i do.


thing is tho...advertising? stretching a bit there, no? advertising WHAT, exactly? that many jews like to eat kosher? i don't have a problem with any of it.

Go look for those symbols next time you grocery shop...

You have to scour the package for a tiny little label smaller than the size of piece of confetti.

And it does not say the words kosher. Who the fuck knows what a letter U with a circle around it is? or an MK or COR etc etc..

how am I supposed to know???

in_hiding79

but I'm not jewish.....

RolandTD20Kdrummer

in_hiding79 wrote:

but I'm not jewish.....

well....if you eat Chapmans Ice cream (amongst many others mainstream brands) or Heinz ketchup you're well on your way

I think practically every brand of cooking oil as well.

So many mainstream/everyday brand name food products packaging carry these cryptic kosher symbols. I not talking weird looking "kosher" packages here. Stuff you wouldn't even blink at to put in your cart. Products you would never even dream of being kosher.

Question to all....so is it up to me to adapt and memorize nondescript cryptic little symbols if I have a preference, because Kosher is becoming the norm?


hello?

Jeanie

Roland we have that here. A lot of foods that I like have kosher labels on them and some in teeny tiny fine print. I'm fairly unimpressed with it to be honest. I have nothing against Kosher for those that adhere but I dislike entirely religious ritual and the like being brought into my life if I do not have the choice. Although I must say that much of what is labelled here is labelled Halaal as opposed to Kosher. I want a label and a guarantee for athiests.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Jeanie wrote:

Roland we have that here. A lot of foods that I like have kosher labels on them and some in teeny tiny fine print. I'm fairly unimpressed with it to be honest. I have nothing against Kosher for those that adhere but I dislike entirely religious ritual and the like being brought into my life if I do not have the choice. Although I must say that much of what is labelled here is labelled Halaal as opposed to Kosher. I want a label and a guarantee for athiests.

Thank you.. One logical comprehensive voice. I was beginning to wonder what's going here. I have a bunch of them in my cupboard knowingly. No big deal. I do take issue about the labeling, as should everyone, if they actually used logic to operate their upstairs faculties.

This place was getting fucking scary until you showed up....lol

Jeanie

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Thank you.. One logical comprehensive voice. I was beginning to wonder what's going here. I have a bunch of them in my cupboard knowingly. No big deal. I do take issue about the labeling, as should everyone, if they actually used logic to operate their upstairs faculties.

This place was getting fucking scary until you showed up....lol

haha! Well I don't know that perhaps you shouldn't be more frightened then!

It's not like I've ever got much worthy of merit to add to the Train these days. Although that has much to do with who is making the judgement I suppose.

Look I understand what you're saying and it has nothing to do with not thinking that Kosher and Halaal foods are relevant because clearly to many people they are and I take no issue with that at all. But I really do not want my food blessed or perused or even considered by a religious official thanks. I find that offensive and it's bloody annoying too because it greatly affects the grated parmesan I buy.

catefrances

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Take a look for these symbols next time you're at the grocery store. In Canada you'll find the U, the MK, and the COR amongst others.

Essentially all ice creams, cooking oils, ketchup, pickles, beets....the list is rather expansive.

http://kosherfood.about.com/od/guidetokosherfoodlabels/ss/symbols.htm

Look for yourself next time you go grocery shopping. You might be rather surprised how much of your pantry is already kosher
http://web.mit.edu/burton2/kosher_symbols%5E1.jpg

You're paying an additional nominal fee for a Rabbi to certify these products.

Some argue it's supports Israel and their policies discretely. The verdict is still out for me.

Question: Do you think this is deceptive advertising?

roland, does your computer have an intel chip in it? ever use johnson and johnson products? use any IBM equipment? anything made my general electric? or hewlett packard? ever eat at mcdonalds? they all invest in israel.

if you answer yes to any of these then you too are supporting israel and their racist policies. so who cares about whether or not by eating kosher food were supporting israel.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

catefrances wrote:

roland, does your computer have an intel chip in it? ever use johnson and johnson products? use any IBM equipment? anything made my general electric? or hewlett packard? ever eat at mcdonalds? they all invest in israel.

if you answer yes to any of these then you too are supporting israel and their racist policies. so who cares about whether or not by eating kosher food were supporting israel.

Some things we have choices over some things we do not...

like what I decide to ingest that in fact becomes me on a cellular level.

right?

catefrances

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Some things we have choices over some things we do not...

like what I decide to ingest that in fact becomes me on a cellular level.

right?

as you know i am an atheist and how my food is prepared religiously means nothing to me, purely because i am an atheist. their rituals hold no meaning for me. im not gonna refuse food simply because it has been prepared kosher, or halal for that matter.
sorry roland it seems much ado about nothing if you ask me. and to suggest(not saying you are) that consuming kosher goods is support for israel is ludicrous.

El_Kabong

my2hands wrote:

omg you need some help dude...


one track mind

roland needs change he can believe in

RolandTD20Kdrummer

catefrances wrote:

as you know i am an atheist and how my food is prepared religiously means nothing to me, purely because i am an atheist. their rituals hold no meaning for me. im not gonna refuse food simply because it has been prepared kosher, or halal for that matter.
sorry roland it seems much ado about nothing if you ask me. and to suggest(not saying you are) that consuming kosher goods is support for israel is ludicrous.

That's not entirely the argument I'm looking at. Part of it is industry food labeling practices (with regards to food preparation) to the mainstream consumer they have no face value knowledge of, unless they are A) first told about, and have to carry around a little cryptic code book thereafter.

Why is this?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

El_Kabong wrote:

roland needs change he can believe in

If only we all did brother...

South of Seattle

I've been looking for some Halal honey butter for my biscuits. I could only find that shit in Utah. :(

_Crazy_Mary_

Yes, a few years ago I noticed the symbols on many of the foods I was buying. I don't care either way. I don't see how it is fake advertising.
For the most part I make everything from scratch now. Sometimes I'll buy crackers or candy or bread, but we don't buy many pre-packaged foods.

catefrances

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

That's not entirely the argument I'm looking at. Part of it is industry food labeling practices (with regards to food preparation) to the mainstream consumer they have no face value knowledge of, unless they are A) first told about, and have to carry around a little cryptic code book thereafter.

Why is this?

well then people need to ask. just like they should with all the little chemical preservative codes on their food. if they arent overly concerned HOW their food retains its flavour and WHY it lasts so long, then why should they care about how its prepared religiously?

Bu2

If you eat Kosher food, I promise you, you won't turn into a Jew.

I used to work at Entenmann's bakery in the 90's. We made sure that our kitchens were kosher before we could use the Pareve symbol on our boxes, especially at Passover.

What makes it Pareve? A rabbi blesses the utensils, the dishwasher, everything in the kitchen. He makes sure it's clean and that no meat nor dairy touches the blade of a knife nor the blade of a mixer.

It's important to some people. To me, it is not.

What is the big f'ing deal?