Cheney urging military strikes on Iran

Abuskedti

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

How bout before another fucking war, we see some REAL GODDAMN PROOF!

Fuck this "alleged" shit ... prove it, or shut the fuck up.

Hey, by the way ...
does our country have a domestic policy anymore?

I mean, besides striving for an absolute totalitarian police state, do we have a fucking civic agenda !?!

proof or not. This is no justification for war. Iran doesn't like us occupying their neighbor. Neither do I. The solution to this problem is not to attack Iran.. the solution is to leave Iraq.

Besides who do we invade in response to all the weapons supplied by the United States that are killing Americans?

jlew24asu

Abuskedti wrote:

proof or not. This is no justification for war. Iran doesn't like us occupying their neighbor. Neither do I. The solution to this problem is not to attack Iran.. the solution is to leave Iraq.

Besides who do we invade in response to all the weapons supplied by the United States that are killing Americans?

i'm a very logical thinker, and this is a very logical response. I like it. that said, Iran is no saint and may have to be dealt with regarding nuclear bombs. not because they dislike us being in Iraq

RolandTD20Kdrummer

jlew24asu wrote:

how about any country within marching distant of Germany ?

I was thinking along the terms of praise Allah.

NMyTree

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Right now that statement is only hypothetical rhetoric to me.

Try reading a book.....once in a while.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

NMyTree wrote:

Try reading a book.....once in a while.

Waste of keystrokes. You made a statement...back it up.

jlew24asu

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I was thinking along the terms of praise Allah.

ever see the movie 300? wait that was Persia. good movie though

NMyTree

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Waste of keystrokes. You made a statement...back it up.

It wasn't a statement. It is a historical fact.

Anyone who has checked into the history of Islam, Muslims and their crusades; knows this to be true.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

NMyTree wrote:

It wasn't a statement. It is a historical fact.

Anyone who has checked into the history of Islam, Muslims and their crusades; knows this to be true.

I'm just asking for a few examples. If you seem to know it so well then you should be able to list off a few in a couple secs. Seems logical.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

jlew24asu wrote:

ever see the movie 300? wait that was Persia. good movie though

I did see 300. It was pretty good.

NMyTree

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I'm just asking for a few examples. If you seem to know it so well then you should be able to list off a few in a couple secs. Seems logical.

And all I ask is that you actually familiarize yourself with the subject matter, before claiming you know something about it. Go to the library.....do a search on google...whatever. The truth is out there.....go read:D

macgyver06

jlew24asu wrote:

that truly is the dumbest thing I have ever heard

you are the model citizen here...lol so gullible ...and no need for facts in your head...just as long as your tucked away behind your keyboard..


jlew24....... still a tool

RolandTD20Kdrummer

NMyTree wrote:

And all I ask is that you actually familiarize yourself with the subject matter, before claiming you know something about it. Go to the library.....do a search on google...whatever. The truth is out there.....go read:D

Well at least I don't make bold sweeping statements that I'm not prepared to discuss, and provide information about.....whether I'm right or wrong.

What are you some kind of fucking crankhead or something?

NMyTree

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Well at least I don't make bold sweeping statements that I'm not prepared to discuss, and provide information about.....whether I'm right or wrong.

What are you some kind of fucking crankhead or something?

You have the right to remain ignorant of the subject matter.

Hell, you can always tell people it's NMyTree's fault I'm ignorant of this subject. "He wouldn't comply and be my information lackey".

P.S. It's hardly a bold sweeping statement. If you knew anything of history, you wouldn't think it was a "bold sweeping statement". You'd know it was a historical truth.

jlew24asu

macgyver06 wrote:

you are the model citizen here...lol so gullible ...and no need for facts in your head...just as long as your tucked away behind your keyboard..


jlew24....... still a tool

o what you could do with a matchbook, garden hose, and a screwdriver.

http://www.joorl.com/Stargate/macgyver.jpg

RolandTD20Kdrummer

NMyTree wrote:

You have the right to remain ignorant of the subject matter.

Hell, you can always tell people it's NMyTree's fault I'm ignorant of this subject. "He wouldn't comply and be my information lackey".

P.S. It's hardly a bold sweeping statement. If you knew anything of history, you wouldn't think it was a "bold sweeping statement". You'd know it was a historical truth.

You have the right to bllaaa blaa fart....

yay...

NMyTree

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

You have the right to bllaaa blaa fart....

yay...

Excellent!

Okay, let's be logical.

You and I both know......you are waiting for me to provide you examples, so you can work your little fingers (to the bone), furiously googling for anything that will help you in your attempts to discredit my historically accurate comment.

So, if you're going to google for discrediting me, why not just go ahead and google without me providing examples? I mean, I can't imagine you need me to provide you with "keywords" for your search.

So go ahead.......take the inititive .....you go girl!

RolandTD20Kdrummer

NMyTree wrote:

Excellent!

Okay, let's be logical.

You and I both know......you are waiting for me to provide you examples, so you can work your little fingers (to the bone), furiously googling for anything that will help you in your attempts to discredit my historically accurate comment.

So, if you're going to google for discrediting me, why not just go ahead and google without me providing examples? I mean, I can't imagine you need me to provide you with "keywords" for your search.

So go ahead.......take the inititive .....you go girl!

dude... <step>...<away>...<from>...<the>...<computer>...

it's giving you personality aneurysms...

Cosmo

Seriously... what did we THINK was going to happen? Consider these factors in 2003:
Iraq was 60% Shi'ite, 20% Sunni and 20% kurdish
Iran was run by fundamentalists Shi'ite Clerics.
Saddam Hussein and his Sunni minority held power in Iraq and restricted the flow of Shi'ite populations and influence into Iraq.
Saddam Hussein and his Sunni minority oppresed the Shi'ite majority.
Other Sunni nations, such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt leaned more towards Hussein... because they do not want Iran's influence to spread.
...
Take out Hussein and let the 60% majority elect who they want to lead and you have what we have today. A Shi'ite majority in power, the restrictions on Shi'ia immigration from Iran relaxed... removed. The guns are in the hands of the Shi'ites looking to get some payback. And that little handholding lovefest between al Maliki and Ahmedinejadabbadaddyo yesterday... not really what we wanted, right?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Cosmo wrote:

Seriously... what did we THINK was going to happen? Consider these factors in 2003:
Iraq was 60% Shi'ite, 20% Sunni and 20% kurdish
Iran was run by fundamentalists Shi'ite Clerics.
Saddam Hussein and his Sunni minority held power in Iraq and restricted the flow of Shi'ite populations and influence into Iraq.
Saddam Hussein and his Sunni minority oppresed the Shi'ite majority.
Other Sunni nations, such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt leaned more towards Hussein... because they do not want Iran's influence to spread.
...
Take out Hussein and let the 60% majority elect who they want to lead and you have what we have today. A Shi'ite majority in power, the restrictions on Shi'ia immigration from Iran relaxed... removed. The guns are in the hands of the Shi'ites looking to get some payback. And that little handholding lovefest between al Maliki and Ahmedinejadabbadaddyo yesterday... not really what we wanted, right?

Bush said it himself...he's a war president.

I mean fuck... stop whacking people as casual policy. I almost give up...effing clowns the lot of them.

What of the US/Iran "talks" that were supposed to happen?...notice how that came and went like a fast handjob in the media?

Shouldn't this be the ongoing focus towards Iran?

Answer: of course it should!

Homey don't play that game eh?

Yeah and separate washrooms for Iraqi troops in the military...oh great. Can't use the American toilets.

Muslims...the new black man of yesteryear.

Cosmo

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Bush said it himself...he's a war president.

I mean fuck... stop whacking people as casual policy. I almost give up...effing clowns the lot of them.

What of the US/Iran "talks" that were supposed to happen?...notice how that came and went like a fast handjob in the media?

Shouldn't this be the ongoing focus towards Iran?

Answer: of course it should!

Homey don't play that game eh?

Yeah and separate washrooms for Iraqi troops in the military...oh great. Can't use the American toilets.

Muslims...the new black man of yesteryear.

...
That's the problem with Iran... we DON'T know what they're up to because we haven't talked to them since 1978. We can only guess what they are up to. I mean, during the Cold War... we were talking to the Soviet Union.
Maybe with Iraq and Iran becoming good buddies... maybe we can ask Iraq what Iran id doing.