Cindy Sheehan (anti-Iraq, by the way):

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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    metsfan531941 wrote:
    msnbc and cnn, i saw them on tv when cindy sheehan was the hot story in the news, that was like months ago.

    I'll look it up. But I have to say, I couldn't care less what the polls say...I'll make my own mind up about her.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    metsfan531941 wrote:
    oh for the love of fucking christ,
    i am sure some people would love to fuck christ, but thats not really my thing ;)
    cant you people read what i fucking wrote.
    i give this board about a 95% literacy rate
    I SAID I AGREED WITH HER AND RESPECTED HER,
    cool, me too
    god
    is a myth :)
    its like talking to a fucking brickwall with you people
    exactly what does "you people" mean? you a racist metsy? gotta a problem with black people? damn long island bigot's :rolleyes:
    Ryan Howard wipes his ass with David Wrights jersey every morning
    see, i knew we would agree on a few things :D
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    metsfan531941 wrote:
    sure it does, you said dont put her down, did you not say those words in your post. and i said i agreed with her and respected her
    You also said:
    metsfan531941 wrote:
    i think it was more like 5 but whos counting and who cares reall. i lost all respect for her, when she became a puppet for moore and the far left.
    You saying you respect and agree with her doesn't erase the fact you put her down for what you think she has done or who you think she has aligned herself with. That's all. I think for the most part you and I are in agreement.

    And as I re-read that; how can you have "lost all respect for her," but still have respect for her? :confused:
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    metsfan531941 wrote:
    i lost all respect for her,

    post #14

    you said it, not me :cool:
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    my2hands wrote:
    i am sure some people would love to fuck christ, but thats not really my thing ;) i give this board about a 95% literacy rate cool, me too is a myth :) exactly what does "you people" mean? you a racist metsy? gotta a problem with black people? damn long island bigot's :rolleyes: see, i knew we would agree on a few things :D
    your such an ass my2hands, but i love ya. oh no i love u, does that make me a gay bigot :rolleyes:
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I'm not addressing your opinion and right to have it. I'm addressing how you view people who disagree with you opinion in this case. I recall you not particularly caring for the way some have chose to conduct themselves in the religion threads...and here you are doing the same. Everyone has opinions and a right to express them...no need to state the obvious. I was just pointing out the irony.


    jim jones had one hell of a mission too. i don't recall any conflict with my views on how people conduct themselves. i gave my opinion and my reasons for my opinion. if someone would like to debate those issues the floor is theirs. all you've done is make personal attacks without addressing any of the issues i stated. this is completely out of topic.
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    aNiMaL wrote:
    You also said:


    You saying you respect and agree with her doesn't erase the fact you put her down for what you think she has done or who you think she has aligned herself with. That's all. I think for the most part you and I are in agreement.

    And as I re-read that; how can you have lost respect for her, but still have respect for her? :confused:
    cause i can respect her for what shes trying do, but i dont respect the way shes going bout it
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    metsfan531941 wrote:
    your such an ass my2hands, but i love ya. oh no i love u, does that make me a gay bigot :rolleyes:

    love has nothing to do with sexual identity...

    except your man crush for ryan howard :D
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    onelongsong wrote:
    jim jones had one hell of a mission too.

    so cindy sheehan is jim jones?

    now that was one hell of a stretch :rolleyes:
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    my2hands wrote:
    love has nothing to do with sexual identity...

    except your man crush for ryan howard :D
    god im gonnd die of laughter cause of u.
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    metsfan531941 wrote:
    cause i can respect her for what shes trying do, but i dont respect the way shes going bout it
    Gotcha.
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Gotcha.
    sorry if confused you all, my bad
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    my2hands wrote:
    so cindy sheehan is jim jones?

    now that was one hell of a stretch :rolleyes:

    if that's what you read into it you need help. it is a reference to another "average joe" that got people to follow him. one fanatic is no different from another.
    i wonder why the other mothers who've lost children in iraq aren't jumping on her bandwagon.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    onelongsong wrote:
    i wonder why the other mothers who've lost children in iraq aren't jumping on her bandwagon.

    if by "bandwagon" you mean the anti-war "bandwagon"...

    http://www.mfso.org/
    http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/010907A.shtml
    http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/7/3901
    http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/17/1643

    many families are against this war, and many are active anti war activists...
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    onelongsong wrote:
    if that's what you read into it you need help.
    me needing help has nothing to do with you using an occams razor to compare sheehan with jim jones
    it is a reference to another "average joe" that got people to follow him. one fanatic is no different from another.
    your kidding right? so an anti war activist is now a fanatic to be compared to crazy and dangerous fanatics from history. sorry dude, this crowd is a little to sharp for that turd to float
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    onelongsong wrote:
    jim jones had one hell of a mission too. i don't recall any conflict with my views on how people conduct themselves. i gave my opinion and my reasons for my opinion. if someone would like to debate those issues the floor is theirs. all you've done is make personal attacks without addressing any of the issues i stated. this is completely out of topic.

    What personal attacks? I pointed out your hypocrisy. And how you treat others differing opinions is always part of the debate topic.

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=4501358&postcount=19
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=3515256&postcount=167
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=4519707&postcount=79
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=4519872&postcount=82
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    onelongsong wrote:
    if that's what you read into it you need help. it is a reference to another "average joe" that got people to follow him. one fanatic is no different from another.
    i wonder why the other mothers who've lost children in iraq aren't jumping on her bandwagon.


    so what you're saying is that no one should run for office if they have an agenda.......looks like we're gonna have to get rid of everybody in the legislative and executive branches.....:rolleyes:
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    onelongsong wrote:
    if that's what you read into it you need help. it is a reference to another "average joe" that got people to follow him. one fanatic is no different from another.
    i wonder why the other mothers who've lost children in iraq aren't jumping on her bandwagon.


    What's wrong with someone making the effort, going out of their way, getting the exposure they need for their cause? Would you rather everyone just stay quiet, not make any noise and go completely unnoticed? That's ridiculous. How would your message ever be heard that way? What was wrong with her approach exactly? I really want to know.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,389
    onelongsong wrote:
    the fact remains that this is a common housewife mad about her son dying.
    I guess she's not so common because she actually protested. She has courage. She was protesting before she was in the press.

    onelongsong wrote:
    if he had chosen to be a policeman and was shot during that job; her mission would have been banning guns. IMO. but what if he chose to be a fireman and died in a fire?
    It's common knowledge that the current administration skewed facts to convince US of cause for war. How many people think Saddam Hussein was involved in September 11th. When people call the police and fire departments on average 2% of all crimes are fraudulent.

    onelongsong wrote:
    i raise the most dangerous animal in north america. people become cops; a job where people shoot at you.
    I thought you were *just* a farmer that compassionately fed grass to cows and the like because you are so concerned about the health of cows, right? You don't feed them chemically laden corn and soy, right? By the way what is "naturally raised" beef versus "organic" beef? I know the difference I just wondered if you knew that you are one sly marketer ;) What's your website about, then?
    onelongsong wrote:
    her son chose to become a sholdier and knew the risks of the job. my son leaves for iraq in 3 months and i accept that he may die there.
    If your son dies, and you just *accept* it then that's a reflection of your view of your son. On the flip side, you may think Cindy Sheehan thinks a lot like you. Either or, I hope your son remains safe.
    onelongsong wrote:
    she's just another fanatic in my book and she can live and be happy. let the sheep follow her where ever she roams.
    OK, so you use sheep references because you are around a lot of sheep. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here. Otherwise, it is kindof ironic, that you put *sheep* and *slaughter* in the same sentence. Again, you are one sly person ;)
    onelongsong wrote:
    but we also have to consider the future and how our withdrawal will effect the world. thus the need for a plan that leaves a troubled and formally oppressed nation with the freedoms we all enjoy and an economy that leaves them self supporting.
    Ok, so what does it mean to act like a sheep?

    onelongsong wrote:
    america has always helped rebuild nations we've had to fight in.
    Could someone verify that we are *helping* North Korea?
    onelongsong wrote:
    with it's resources iraq can be a thriving economy in the world market and if the money is distributed in a democracy and not put in one mans pocket; the future of iraq is bright.
    This is sheep talk. Actually, sheep are cute. You write like the news is still from late 2001.
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    What's wrong with someone making the effort, going out of their way, getting the exposure they need for their cause? Would you rather everyone just stay quiet, not make any noise and go completely unnoticed? That's ridiculous. How would your message ever be heard that way? What was wrong with her approach exactly? I really want to know.

    i think everyone should make an effort. i never said anyone shouldn't. and bozo can run for president if he wants. just because someone runs for president doesn't mean they're qualified. look at clinton.
    i think everyone with a true message should be heard. BUT; with such a big issue; a uniform front will do a lot more then splinter groups. i've been trying to inform people about the food they eat and i do everything i can to get the message out. but i've joined with others and we're making progress. so much progress that ted turner (the owner of the largest buffalo herd in the us); has taken notice and is changing his practices.
    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1599697-1,00.html

    there's a right way and a wrong way to get a message accross. splinter groups have no weight but if all the groups banded together; their voices would have to be heard. to pose a united front you must dismiss the extreemes and offer logical plans that can work. otherwise you're dismissed as a fanatic.

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