Obama & Oprah

sorryFOOL

It is not that huge for Oprah to be endorsing Obama. Especially since she already stood up for Hilary, that kind of dulls out the feel of her endorsement. When you are that big of a celebrity and you have the kind of influence she has you need to be more responsible with your public statements and endorsements. I have no problem with her changing her mind but she should not have endorsed anybody until she was 100% sure.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Why do people bash Oprah? Is it jelousy?.. She caters to house moms, so her thing isn't my cup of tea, but for as generous of a lady as she is, tearing her down just makes you look like an asshole.

Well it's the truth. Is she known as a polital afficionado by any means? No.

Shes great at what she does, but let's face it she lives in her little TV star billionaire bubble lifestyle. Face the facts of the matter.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

blackredyellow wrote:

It might be that simple if you knew what you were talking about... I really don't care for her all that much, but calling her clueless is pretty off base. With her business savvy and hard work, she has created a net worth of more then everyone on this board combined, and has raised and donated more money to charitable causes and social issues then all of us combined as well.

I don't really think that he will get a huge bump out of this, but it might at least get some outsiders into the political discussion.

She's a TV personality that people pay into because she has a naive likability.

It does nothing to qualify her as an economist or political analyst. Sorry, but my my original statement holds up.

blackredyellow

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

She's a TV personality that people pay into because she has a naive likability.

It does nothing to qualify her as an economist or political analyst. Sorry, but my my original statement holds up.

But isn't that just about every public figure? A lot of the appeal of celebrity is based on a naive likability or what we perceive to person to be like. Sometimes it's right, but just as often we are wrong. We have no idea what her political knowledge is or what political conversations she has with her friends. To dismiss her as "pretty much clueless" based on what you perceive her to be is no different than the people who believe everything she says on TV.

And you need to be a political analyst or an economist to campaign or legitimately support someone?

As far as I care, anyone can support or endorse a politician... Members of Pearl Jam have done it, Oprah does it, Ted Nugent does it, hell, even the guy down the street from me with his 10 Ron Paul signs does it.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

blackredyellow wrote:

But isn't that just about every public figure? A lot of the appeal of celebrity is based on a naive likability or what we perceive to person to be like. Sometimes it's right, but just as often we are wrong. We have no idea what her political knowledge is or what political conversations she has with her friends. To dismiss her as "pretty much clueless" based on what you perceive her to be is no different than the people who believe everything she says on TV.

And you need to be a political analyst or an economist to campaign or legitimately support someone?

As far as I care, anyone can support or endorse a politician... Members of Pearl Jam have done it, Oprah does it, Ted Nugent does it, hell, even the guy down the street from me with his 10 Ron Paul signs does it.

What I said is it's akin to being disillusioned (drunk) behind the wheel of a very fast and powerful car. It is. She's using her power to influence people's lives.

I think it's irresponsible on her part. Very.

pjtaper

Hawkshore wrote:

how much weight will her endorsement of Obama carry in terms of putting him over the top for the democrat nomination???

I'd say at least 250-300lbs!
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA

emeraldkity

I made a donation to see Obama @ Showbox Sodo tonight.
I want to be part of positive change in this country

That Brad is going to be there doesn't hurt of course

vedderelf

So first she endorses hilary because she's a woman, then she endorses obama because he's black.

This quote tells me everything I need to know about "O":
"I haven't been actively engaged before because there hasn't been anything to be actively engaged in. But I am engaged now to make Barack Obama the next President of the United States," Winfrey told a star-studded crowd of 1,500, according to a source at the event.


Nothing to be actively involved in? She must have had blinders on the past 10 years.

Besides, I'm going with whoever Tyra endorses anyway.

blackredyellow

vedderelf wrote:

So first she endorses hilary because she's a woman, then she endorses obama because he's black.

Did she ever endorse Hilary? I know next to nothing about Oprah's politics, but one of the news stories I read said this was the first time she endorsed a candidate.

Hawkshore

Can't we get Oprah a black woman candidate??? ......whats that girl with the bad teeth up to?

Bu2

Do any of you read political blogs?

One: Oprah never backed or endorsed Hillary first. Oprah brought Obama onto her show after she read his second book, "The Audacity of Hope". At the time that she introduced Obama on her show, she said she hoped he would run for president someday, because he made a lot of sense to her. Apparently, he still does.

Two: Oprah's appearances this weekend with Barack Obama, in Iowa twice Saturday, followed by South Carolina and New Hampshire on Sunday, were witnessed by people who were given tickets through Obama's campaign. The thousands of people who sat in the stands had to give out their names and phone numbers in order to be there. That means that his campaign has at least 20,000-40,000 new people to contact. The Obama campaign has since started contacting all these people and asking them to vote for/caucus for Obama. This was a very valuable and smart move.

If you aren't keeping up with the polls lately, Obama is neck and neck with Hillary and Edwards in Iowa, and neck and neck with Hillary in South Carolina and New Hampshire.

Three: If any of you have any questions about Obama, please go to factcheck.barackobama.com

Thank you, and good night.

onelongsong

Ahnimus wrote:

See, that's a problem right there.

exactly. oprah is a bigot that hates whites and won't lift a finger to help them. i think she's only putting herself in the line of fire.

cornnifer

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Clueless about pretty much everything except vote for the black guy. .

Are you fucking kidding me!?

Oh yeah, i forgot about all those ringing endorsements Oprah gave to Al Sharpton and Alan Keyes. :rolleyes:

SHEESH!!

cornnifer

onelongsong wrote:

exactly. oprah is a bigot that hates whites and won't lift a finger to help them. i think she's only putting herself in the line of fire.

Holy shit. i'm completely speechless.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

cornnifer wrote:

Are you fucking kidding me!?

Oh yeah, i forgot about all those ringing endorsements Oprah gave to Al Sharpton and Alan Keyes. :rolleyes:

SHEESH!!

The key word is clueless, and that she is. She's a talk show host not a political or economical analyst. I'll trust the full time professionals in those realms over Oprah on this one any day...

cornnifer

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

The key word is clueless, and that she is. She's a talk show host not a political or economical analyst. I'll trust the full time professionals in those realms over Oprah on this one any day...

Thats your perogative and i don't have any problem with that. Please, however, stop with the "Oprah only endorses Obama because he's a Black guy" bullshit.

blackredyellow

onelongsong wrote:

exactly. oprah is a bigot that hates whites and won't lift a finger to help them. i think she's only putting herself in the line of fire.

wow... you really do live in a distorted little world, don't you?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

cornnifer wrote:

Thats your perogative and i don't have any problem with that. Please, however, stop with the "Oprah only endorses Obama because he's a Black guy" bullshit.

You don't think it's a perk....hmmm naive.

cornnifer

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

You don't think it's a perk....hmmm naive.

No. As a matter of fact i don't think its a fucking "perk". What if i said i thought the only problem you had with Barack was the fact that he was Black. What if i thought that the only problem you had with Oprah is that she is an extremely wealthy Black American? Would i be out of line? i certainly hope so. Persoanally, i don't care who Oprah endorses. My personal endorsement of Barack Obama has absolutely nothing to do with Oprah. Nor does it have to do with any other "expert". i personally like to *gasp* make up my own mind. Point is your coments about Oprah endorisng Obama because he is a Black candidate are, simply put, fucking ridiculous. Why was Blackness not a "perk" for Al Sharpton? Why was it not a "perk" for Alan Keyes? i didn't see Oprah rallying behind either of those candidates. If anyone is naive...

SoonForgotten2

cornnifer wrote:

Why was Blackness not a "perk" for Al Sharpton? Why was it not a "perk" for Alan Keyes? i didn't see Oprah rallying behind either of those candidates. If anyone is naive...

Please. Oprah is a business woman, neither Sharpton nor Keyes have ever been serious candidates for anything. For her to endorse someone like them would be to make herself a fool. Obama is credible and has as good a chance as any. If you really think colour has nothing to do with the matter, well that's quaint. Don't try to tell me that Oprah wouldn't really love to help elect the first black president. And yeah maybe she genuinely likes him as a person and all that but if nothing else, that door opened because of his colour.