US Somali air strikes 'kill many'

CorporateWhore

Maybe if the Islamists don't like it then they can build a powerful military and try to attack us.

Otherwise, they can keep getting our missiles up their asses.

RockinInCanada

CorporateWhore wrote:

Maybe if the Islamists don't like it then they can build a powerful military and try to attack us.

Otherwise, they can keep getting our missiles up their asses.

Well expect the same......sadly but that is your reality now......keeping feeding that fire and will jump out and bite your ass again.....and trust me I don't want it to but the way things are going I would not be surprised....puinishing an entire group of people to kill a few will only lead to bad things....

So now you telling me Islamists as a whole are bad? Because I know some pretty damn good friends that are great people regardless of their beliefs....

CorporateWhore

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

Well expect the same......sadly but that is your reality now......keeping feeding that fire and will jump out and bite your ass again.....and trust me I don't want it to but the way things are going I would not be surprised....puinishing an entire group of people to kill a few will only lead to bad things....

So now you telling me Islamists as a whole are bad? Because I know some pretty damn good friends that are great people regardless of their beliefs....

Yes, Islamists as a whole are bad.

Is·lam·ism (s-lämzm, z-, sl-, z-)
n.
1. An Islamic revivalist movement, often characterized by moral conservatism, literalism, and the attempt to implement Islamic values in all spheres of life.
2. The religious faith, principles, or cause of Islam.

The "in all spheres of life" part is where it gets nutty.

RockinInCanada

CorporateWhore wrote:

Yes, Islamists as a whole are bad.

Is·lam·ism (s-lämzm, z-, sl-, z-)
n.
1. An Islamic revivalist movement, often characterized by moral conservatism, literalism, and the attempt to implement Islamic values in all spheres of life.
2. The religious faith, principles, or cause of Islam.

The "in all spheres of life" part is where it gets nutty.

You have a very ignorant way of thinking of some people that are different...especially culturally.....quite disturbing....so you are saying Muslims, who practice Islam, are all bad....that my friends are inherently evil?

No wonder a vast # of these people hate your country....no big surprise with rhetoric like yours....but we live in a free world where we can be open with our opinions so say what you may....

Also Islamists, is this another coined term to lump terrorism with the religion of Islam...because it damn well seems that way to me....

CorporateWhore

Muslims may be good people...

their religion is crap.

MrBrian

CorporateWhore wrote:

Muslims may be good people...

their religion is crap.

have you even read the quran?

Collin

MrBrian wrote:

have you even read the quran?

He doesn't need to, he read something about it on wikipedia!

CorporateWhore wrote:

Maybe if the Islamists don't like it then they can build a powerful military and try to attack us.

Otherwise, they can keep getting our missiles up their asses.

Maybe you missed the part where innocent people were dying.

CorporateWhore

MrBrian wrote:

have you even read the quran?

Not all of it.

Enough to know that their entire moral system is built on irrational principles.

For example, Muslims believe that all morality comes from "faith," essentially, all moral teaching comes from a literal understanding of the Koran and other holy books. If Allah says it is okay to kill an innocent person, then it is okay to kill an innocent person. If he says it is wrong to kill an innocent person, then it becomes wrong to kill an innocent person. There morality is based solely on the literal word of Allah and nothing else.

The problem with this belief is that it is opposed to reason. Because Muslims believe that Allah created human beings, then it opposes reason to believe that Allah would allow one of his innocent creations to be killed for no reason. Allah could never make a law that opposes his own intent and purpose for creation, but according to Islamic teaching, he could do this if he wanted to.

Essentially, Allah would not create mankind only to create a system of morality that resulted in mankind's murder.

When a moral system is built solely on faith from a holy book, it is irrational. God could never say that it is moral to kill innocent human beings - it is an irrational belief. But, Muslims believe that God could say that.

Therefore, Islam is irrational.

Unless you can prove me wrong, I will assume you know nothing about Islam.

SundaySilence

It is easy to prove Islam to be irrational. Religion is irrational.

CorporateWhore

SundaySilence wrote:

It is easy to prove Islam to be irrational. Religion is irrational.

Okay, so killing in the name of your religion is most certainly irrational; therefore, Islamists deserve their fate.

69charger

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

You have a very ignorant way of thinking of some people that are different...especially culturally.....quite disturbing....so you are saying Muslims, who practice Islam, are all bad....that my friends are inherently evil?

Is all cancer bad? Or is there a good kind? That's the way I see it.

No wonder a vast # of these people hate your country....no big surprise with rhetoric like yours....but we live in a free world where we can be open with our opinions so say what you may....

"Canada is a sweet country. It is like your retarded cousin you see at Thanksgiving and sort of pat him on the head. You know, he's nice but you don't take him seriously. That's Canada. Canada is essentially a stalker, stalking the United States, right? Canada has little pictures of us in its bedroom, right? It's unrequited love between Canada and the United States. We, meanwhile, don't even know Canada's name. We pay no attention at all."

--Tucker Carlson

MrBrian

I asked if You read the quran and you (in as many words) basically said no, but you have read what you believe was enough to reinforce you belief that islam is crap. You have faith in your view of this?

Now you see, Islam like most religions has it's basic points, Islam teaches and stresses to be honest, it stresses the need for education, healthy eating, equal rights, charity and meditation and such, now are these things "crap"? to you, maybe, I don't know. But for me these things are far from crap.

(you say)
"For example, Muslims believe that all morality comes from "faith," essentially, all moral teaching comes from a literal understanding of the Koran and other holy books"
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A muslims morality is not limited at all on the quran or just holy books, you see my friend, you would've known this if you read it or even studied the religion. so obvioulsy I can tell that you have not done these things. infact what you said really does'nt even make sense. you could not be more far off.

I don't really know what else to say, oh I know, read the quran.

searchlightsoul

CorporateWhore wrote:

Yes, Islamists as a whole are bad.

1. An Islamic revivalist movement, often characterized by moral conservatism, literalism, and the attempt to implement Islamic values in all spheres of life.
The "in all spheres of life" part is where it gets nutty.

So in other words its pretty much the same as christianity in America?

69charger

searchlightsoul wrote:

So in other words its pretty much the same as christianity in America?

So honestly view Islamist society in Somalia "pretty much the same as Christianity in America"?

Seriously?

Coming back to life

searchlightsoul wrote:

So in other words its pretty much the same as christianity in America?

If you're referring to things like "God hates fags", yes. I hate George Bush, hate his religious idiocy, and hate his homophobic policies. But I don't know of anyone who would be worse off living under him than the likes of Hussein, Taliban and yes - America/Britain's puppet government in Afghanistan now.

jlew24asu

69charger wrote:

So honestly view Islamist society in Somalia "pretty much the same as Christianity in America"?

Seriously?

lol I know this is what I was thinking.

sure, there are some cooky christians in this country but 99% are law abiding, peaceful people. the same can not be said about Islam in Somalia. or even in countries like Iran where the chant death to america daily. do american christians even come close to something like that?

Collin

jlew24asu wrote:

lol I know this is what I was thinking.

sure, there are some cooky christians in this country but 99% are law abiding, peaceful people. the same can not be said about Islam in Somalia. or even in countries like Iran where the chant death to america daily. do american christians even come close to something like that?

I think searchlightsoul has a point based on the definition of 'islamist' Whore gave...

jlew24asu

Collin wrote:

I think searchlightsoul has a point based on the definition of 'islamist' Whore gave...

I dont see his point at all. then again I may be out of touch with christianity in america.

Collin

jlew24asu wrote:

I dont see his point at all. then again I may be out of touch with christianity in america.

An Islamic revivalist movement, often characterized by moral conservatism, literalism, and the attempt to implement Islamic values in all spheres of life.


In my opinion, there is a Christian right (moral conservatism), they often have a pretty literal belief of the bible e.g. creationism, miracles of Jesus and they attempt to implement Christian values in all spheres of life as well.

I could be wrong, of course, but this is how I see it. Based on that definition, I'd say searchlightsoul definitely has a point.

callen

CorporateWhore wrote:

Muslims may be good people...

their religion is crap.

all religions...but thats not why we're fighting in this world..its cause of power..thats it nothing else....ah ah..oh never mind...religion is also about power.