Putin attacks 'dangerous' U.S
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Putin attacks 'very dangerous' US
Saturday, 10 February 2007, 12:28 GMT
Russian President Vladimir Putin has attacked the United States for what he said was its "almost uncontained" use of force around the world.
America's "very dangerous" approach to global relations was fuelling a nuclear arms race, he told a security summit.
Correspondents say the strident speech may signal a more assertive Russia.
Earlier German chancellor Angela Merkel told the delegates in Munich that the international community was determined to stop Iran getting nuclear weapons.
Iranian nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani is among delegates at the conference.
The conference, founded in 1962, has become an annual opportunity for world leaders to discuss the most pressing issues of the day.
Mr Putin told senior security officials from around the world that nations were "witnessing an almost uncontained hyper use of force in international relations".
"One state, the United States, has overstepped its national borders in every way," the Russian president said.
"This is very dangerous. Nobody feels secure anymore because nobody can hide behind international law," he said, speaking through a translator.
"This is nourishing an arms race with the desire of countries to get nuclear weapons."
BBC defence and security correspondent Rob Watson, in Munich, said Mr Putin's speech was a strident performance.
It may well be remembered as a turning point in international relations and a sign of a more assertive Russia, our correspondent says.
Western leaders in the audience, including Mrs Merkel, looked decidedly glum-faced when President Putin had finished, our correspondent adds.
Earlier, Mrs Merkel told delegates there was "no way around" the need for Tehran to accept demands from the UN and nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
"What we are talking about here is a very, very sensitive technology, and for that reason we need a high degree of transparency, which Iran has failed to provide, and if Iran does not do so then the alternative for Iran is to slip further into isolation," she said.
Mr Larijani was set to tell delegates that Iran wants nuclear power, not nuclear weapons.
"We believe the Iranian nuclear dossier is resolvable by negotiation," Mr Larijani was quoted by Reuters news agency as saying on the sidelines of the conference.
European diplomats are hoping to hold informal talks with Mr Larijani at the two-day summit.
It would be their first meeting since the collapse of talks last year and the imposition of limited UN sanctions on Tehran for its failure to stop the enrichment of uranium.
On Friday, the IAEA said it had frozen about half of technical aid projects involving Iran.
It said the move was to comply with UN sanctions imposed on Tehran late last year over its refusal to halt uranium enrichment.
An IAEA report said 22 technical aid projects involving Iran had been suspended to comply with the UN sanctions, which call for an end to programmes that could be exploited by Iran to develop nuclear weapons.
The IAEA gives technical aid to dozens of countries on the peaceful use of nuclear energy in fields such as medicine, agriculture and power generation.
Saturday, 10 February 2007, 12:28 GMT
Russian President Vladimir Putin has attacked the United States for what he said was its "almost uncontained" use of force around the world.
America's "very dangerous" approach to global relations was fuelling a nuclear arms race, he told a security summit.
Correspondents say the strident speech may signal a more assertive Russia.
Earlier German chancellor Angela Merkel told the delegates in Munich that the international community was determined to stop Iran getting nuclear weapons.
Iranian nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani is among delegates at the conference.
The conference, founded in 1962, has become an annual opportunity for world leaders to discuss the most pressing issues of the day.
Mr Putin told senior security officials from around the world that nations were "witnessing an almost uncontained hyper use of force in international relations".
"One state, the United States, has overstepped its national borders in every way," the Russian president said.
"This is very dangerous. Nobody feels secure anymore because nobody can hide behind international law," he said, speaking through a translator.
"This is nourishing an arms race with the desire of countries to get nuclear weapons."
BBC defence and security correspondent Rob Watson, in Munich, said Mr Putin's speech was a strident performance.
It may well be remembered as a turning point in international relations and a sign of a more assertive Russia, our correspondent says.
Western leaders in the audience, including Mrs Merkel, looked decidedly glum-faced when President Putin had finished, our correspondent adds.
Earlier, Mrs Merkel told delegates there was "no way around" the need for Tehran to accept demands from the UN and nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
"What we are talking about here is a very, very sensitive technology, and for that reason we need a high degree of transparency, which Iran has failed to provide, and if Iran does not do so then the alternative for Iran is to slip further into isolation," she said.
Mr Larijani was set to tell delegates that Iran wants nuclear power, not nuclear weapons.
"We believe the Iranian nuclear dossier is resolvable by negotiation," Mr Larijani was quoted by Reuters news agency as saying on the sidelines of the conference.
European diplomats are hoping to hold informal talks with Mr Larijani at the two-day summit.
It would be their first meeting since the collapse of talks last year and the imposition of limited UN sanctions on Tehran for its failure to stop the enrichment of uranium.
On Friday, the IAEA said it had frozen about half of technical aid projects involving Iran.
It said the move was to comply with UN sanctions imposed on Tehran late last year over its refusal to halt uranium enrichment.
An IAEA report said 22 technical aid projects involving Iran had been suspended to comply with the UN sanctions, which call for an end to programmes that could be exploited by Iran to develop nuclear weapons.
The IAEA gives technical aid to dozens of countries on the peaceful use of nuclear energy in fields such as medicine, agriculture and power generation.
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"This is nourishing an arms race with the desire of countries to get nuclear weapons." Gotta agree with this too.
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I kind of like Putin
I can't believe some of you here actually fall for Putin's bullshit...and sit here and talk like you think Putin is ACTUALLY concerned about the "nuclear arms race", or "fear" that the U.S. is supposedly instilling across the globe. Whatever...if you're looking at Putin as some kind of voice of truth or reason, one only needs to take a close look at how he runs his own country to see what type of leader he is. If you can't see through his fake concern for the rest of the world, and this speech for what it is...political bullshit...then I don't know what to tell you.
Putin and Russia are to Iran, Syria and Egypt...what most of you think the U.S. is to Israel. For some reason though...Putin has it right according to some of you...
Of course some of you will just say that at least Putin doesn't go around "invading" countries like Iraq...but we've seen what they do to their own people who try to break away and form a sovereign government...and we all also know who they supply with weapons, money and intelligence. The very terrorists who are blowing up our troops on a daily basis.
Make no mistake, we're at war with Russia in Iraq as much as we're at war with Iran.
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I personally do not want to live through the cold war again. A Democratic, collaborative partner in Russia is critical to the new world order. They are essential partners for the 21st century.
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the cold war was bs for a loooong time...nothing more than an excuse to pump funds into a certain industry. encarta encylopedia even lists that during the reagan years they exagerated the russian threat
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761568583_4/Central_Intelligence_Agency.html
President Reagan made good on his promise to rebuild the CIA and secured a major expansion in the budget and personnel of the agency. (The CIA budget was a secret until 1997, when it was officially revealed to be $26.6 billion. Rough estimates suggest that the agency’s budget was about $20 billion in 1981, and that it reached a Cold War high of about $36 billion at the end of the 1980s.....At Reagan’s direction, the CIA created reports that exaggerated the economic and military threat presented by the Soviet Union. The distorted estimates helped Reagan persuade Congress to approve massive funding for the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), a system of space-based defenses against nuclear attack. The Soviet economy, already hobbled by chronic problems, was too weak to support a Soviet military effort to match SDI.
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
and shit if anyone knows about overstepping one's boundaries it'd be the russians and their former KGB 'fuckhead'(thanks exodus) leader.
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Iran is the the US what Israel is to Iran.. and on and on
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And he doesn't say it because it's true?
Of course he's concerned about a nuclear arms race. EVERYONE in the world is. And he runs his country a lot better than a certain guy I know does.
That's so true. wait, did Iran invade another country and kill thousands of people? No? didn't think so. does russia supply iran with BILLIONS of dollars of weapons every year to use? while russia does SELL them weapons, it's nowhere near in comparison to US and Israel.
proof?
in the end, what he said is still true.
And don't start with that Israel has the bomb crap either. The French did that. Not us.
can you plz, for just this once, address the fucking point? how did anything pearl jam and toast say even remotely give off the impression that he's his 'fearless leader'????
you are aware that you can agree w/ someone you dislike or normally disagree w/, right? the world isn't so black and white. i dislike putin, i think he's a thug, but how is what he said wrong? that is the point pj&t was asking, the one you are avoiding.
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
sources?
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
you don't know who it is? look up, he's the one you quoted in that reply.
if the original post is what you meant to reply to then replace pearl jam and toast's name w/ byrnzie...how did anything he said even remotely refelct he thought of putin as his 'fearless leader'??? this is impossible as his original post was nothing more than an article...where does this 'fearless leader' fantasy come into play?
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
http://www.nti.org/e_research/profiles/Israel/Nuclear/index.html
hmmm interesting, thanks.
but it also says:
but U.S. policies determined the way in which Israel acquired the bomb. Israel developed the bomb opaquely, in a manner that avoided defying U.S. nonproliferation policies. A policy of ambiguity was born.
linked to the first sale of Phantom aircraft to Israel—Israel told the United States that, given its unique security needs, it could not sign the NPT at the present time. President Johnson ultimately approved the Phantom deal without linking it to Israeli concession on the NPT issue.
Less than one year later, in September 1969, Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir reached a secret agreement with President Richard Nixon on the Israeli nuclear issue. Meir explained to Nixon why Israel had been compelled to develop a nuclear capability, why it could not sign the NPT, but also stated that Israel would not become a declared nuclear power. That meant, operationally, that Israel would not test nuclear devices, would not declare itself a NWS, and would not use its nuclear status capability for diplomatic gains—but keeps its bomb "in the basement." While Israel would not join the NPT, it would not defy it either.
not only that but it starts off by saying:
'Consequently, only fragmentary bits and pieces of information on the topic have ever been published, and most commonly only in the form of unconfirmed press reports by the non-Israeli press. Thus, the historical narrative offered here is sketchy and incomplete. Its main source for the period up to 1970 is Avner Cohen's book Israel and the Bomb, while for the more recent period, it is based on various non-Israeli reports and publications (all unconfirmed)'
the french may not be the biggest, but they do sell an awful lot of weapons around the world...
lots of things come to mind, none of them would be that he's his 'fearless leader'...of course it's the pot calling the kettle black, does is make it any less true? if there is something of substance you dispute then out w/ it. is he any less honest and credible than the majority of major politicians?
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
isn't ironic that you are using the fact that they are a big arms dealer to discredit something about the world's BIGGEST arms dealer
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Since unleashing the nuke, it's seems like it's all about being able to make the best and most advanced weapons and anti weapons imaginable each and every day.
I wonder how much more is spent on military rather than trying to find a cure for cancer for example...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Someone can be awful, have an agenda, hidden or otherwise, or even be clinically insane. And yet what they say can still be truthful, partially or otherwise, despite all of the above. This is where the discernment of information is necessary. Do you think there is any degree of truth to what Putin has said, despite the agendaed nature underlying what was said?
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Sure there is a degree of truth.
But Mr.Putin how is Chechnya doing?
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