5 years later and binLaden's still free

Jeanwah

That's all I have to say.

I'm sick to death that finding binLaden has not been a priority of the U.S. gov't. If we're supposedly the most powerful nation in this world, we should have first and foremost captured him after 9/11.

jlew24asu

I agree. It's sad. at least he is hiding in a cave somewhere with no base of operations. this fucker needs to be caught. dead or alive

monkey spanker

i believe they know where he is, but for political reasons they won't go in and get him. i am anxious for his capture for a few reasons: first, there is the revenge factor in me that wants him dead. second, i want to see how the left in america reacts..will they be outraged if he is killed without ever being given a fair trial?

Jeanwah

monkey spanker wrote:

i believe they know where he is, but for political reasons they won't go in and get him.

With all due respect, I think that's BS. HE's responsible for 9/11, HE should be captured. If we could invade Iraq without being attacked first, we can invade some cave in Pakastan, Afganistan or wherever, and capture Osama.

Uncle Leo

There are two resons to catch him:
1. To bring him to justice.
2. To make us safer.

#1 is great. Like any mass murder, he needs to be brought to justice.

#2 almost worries me though. Any captured/dead terrorist leader can be replaced immediately. I hope we do not get complacent if Bin Laden is captured. Because the world will not be one bit safer.

inmytree

monkey spanker wrote:

i believe they know where he is, but for political reasons they won't go in and get him. i am anxious for his capture for a few reasons: first, there is the revenge factor in me that wants him dead. second, i want to see how the left in america reacts..will they be outraged if he is killed without ever being given a fair trial?

umm...so we "know" where is he is, but won't do anything about it...? interesting, care to expand on this...? Because if we "know" where he is, isn't bush failing in bringing him to justice...?

Cosmo

What is Pakistan's motivation?
Seriously... as long as Bin Laden in on the run and we keep on giving Pakistan's leaders money and weapons... why should they capture him? As soon as they do... and turn him over to us... the money and weapons flow ends. If you were in their shoes... would you capture him and put an end to the gravy train?

Cosmo

monkey spanker wrote:

i believe they know where he is, but for political reasons they won't go in and get him. i am anxious for his capture for a few reasons: first, there is the revenge factor in me that wants him dead. second, i want to see how the left in america reacts..will they be outraged if he is killed without ever being given a fair trial?

...
You sound like you hate the American 'Left' more than the terrorists.

ledvedderman

jlew24asu wrote:

I agree. It's sad. at least he is hiding in a cave somewhere with no base of operations. this fucker needs to be caught. dead or alive

With the constant attacks in Iraq, the whole middle east area, and the bombing at the US Embassy in Syria, you really think he has no base of operations. This whole thing is over your head. He does need to be caught, but I don't believe the Saudis will allow Georgie Boy to finish the job

SweetHarmonics

It seems like the warhawks don't want to catch him either. If he was caught they would have to dig around for a new boogyman and they've invested too much time and resource in this to let that happen.

I'm halfway serious.

my2hands

Jeanwah wrote:

That's all I have to say.

I'm sick to death that finding binLaden has not been a priority of the U.S. gov't. If we're supposedly the most powerful nation in this world, we should have first and foremost captured him after 9/11.

i cant wait to see the right wingers blame clinto for this one? or whatever bullshit they will conjure up to reassure them that Mr Bush is a warrior president that is almighty when it comes to their security

they can tell what kind of creamer is in my coffee using a satelite from hawaii, but they cant find a 6'5 arab with a dialysis machine? i call bullshit

DCGARDEN

Bin Laden being alive is a damn shame - I am stunned that he has not been caught - but I believe he will be - I think the left of this country would rather he NOT be caught during Bush's term because they know it will only help his image that they already dread - and that my friend's is very, very sad

DCGARDEN

my2hands wrote:

they can tell what kind of creamer is in my coffee using a satelite from hawaii, but they cant find a 6'5 arab with a dialysis machine? i call bullshit

That is one of the most hilarious things I've read in awhile!

Sad but true

ledvedderman

my2hands wrote:

i cant wait to see the right wingers blame clinto for this one? or whatever bullshit they will conjure up to reassure them that Mr Bush is a warrior president that is almighty when it comes to their security

they can tell what kind of creamer is in my coffee using a satelite from hawaii, but they cant find a 6'5 arab with a dialysis machine? i call bullshit

I second your call for bullshit, and that post is priceless

Cosmo

DCGARDEN wrote:

Bin Laden being alive is a damn shame - I am stunned that he has not been caught - but I believe he will be - I think the left of this country would rather he NOT be caught during Bush's term because they know it will only help his image that they already dread - and that my friend's is very, very sad

...
Why is EVERYTHING politicized? Why is EVERYTHING broken down to moronic American politics?
It has nothing to do with the American 'Left' and everything to do with the ones 'looking for' Bin Laden. Pakistan is a Muslim nation... Pakistanis name their sons, Usama. The President of Pakistan may want to capture Bin Laden... maybe some of his gererals... but, do you seriously think the private who just named his first born son, Usama, is going to turn his ass in?
We are giving Pakistan's leadership money and weapons... the enemy of my enemy is my friend, right? Bin Laden was the enemy of the Soviet Union... Saddam Hussein was the enemy of Ayatollah Khomeini's Iran... maybe we need to LEARN something from past failures.

onelongsong

FREE? can you call hiding in a cave in the middle of nowhere freedom? always looking over your shoulder; waiting for a bomb to hit. i'd rather be dead than live like that.

Milhouse VanHouten

onelongsong wrote:

FREE? can you call hiding in a cave in the middle of nowhere freedom? always looking over your shoulder; waiting for a bomb to hit. i'd rather be dead than live like that.

Yeah, he's been punished enough. Now Bush doesn't have to mention him again until it's politically advantageous.

ledvedderman

onelongsong wrote:

FREE? can you call hiding in a cave in the middle of nowhere freedom? always looking over your shoulder; waiting for a bomb to hit. i'd rather be dead than live like that.

I think Osama Bin Laden could live in the biggest house in Saudi Arabia with a big red and white target surrounding it as a yard and they wouldn't let us touch him still, and the administration would agree.

Jeanwah

ledvedderman wrote:

I think Osama Bin Laden could live in the biggest house in Saudi Arabia with a big red and white target surrounding it as a yard and they wouldn't let us touch him still, and the administration would agree.

If that's true, then we're nothing but a pu$$y whipped country, instead of the most powerful.

Jeanwah

DCGARDEN wrote:

Bin Laden being alive is a damn shame - I am stunned that he has not been caught - but I believe he will be - I think the left of this country would rather he NOT be caught during Bush's term because they know it will only help his image that they already dread - and that my friend's is very, very sad

And don't you think the Right would be psyched to having reeled him in during Dubbya's reign? They would have a great possibility of getting another Republican voted again in '08 if they pulled that one off...

DCGARDEN

Jeanwah wrote:

And don't you think the Right would be psyched to having reeled him in during Dubbya's reign? They would have a great possibility of getting another Republican voted again in '08 if they pulled that one off...

You do have a point - I'm not suggesting the political tactics of either side leave me feeling cozy at night

Bin Laden is captured and it skyrockets Bush's image
You cannot deny this

This is going to happen in the next couple of years - captured or killed I believe and Bush will go down as the most hated president in history ( home and abroad) and as one of the most prolific war-time presidents in history(whether you like it or not)

Deal with it -