ehehehehheheheheh

Byrnzie

jlew24asu wrote:

I still get surprised on how so many UK people are glued to american politics. I guess you are our puppet. you have to watch the people pulling your strings.

It's like a freak show to us! We're addicted.

jlew24asu

Byrnzie wrote:

It's like a freak show to us! We're addicted.

fun

Byrnzie

jlew24asu wrote:

no thats not cool. why should people work very hard to make alot of money only to give all of it back to people who have less?

'work very hard'? Like those hard workers at Halliburton and Enron you mean? That's not work, that's gambling!

soulsinging

jlew24asu wrote:

be interested all you want. but it seems most non americans are only interested in Bush, or any republican, losing simply becuase they hop on the hate georgie bandwagon...instead of looking at the real issues. those issues deal directly with americans, like social security, healthcare, homeland security, border control, taxes...etc.

i think people voted democrat specifically becos they wanted real policy on these issues, not more republican smokescreen about "9/11, iraq, bin laden, freedom is on the march."

soulsinging

jlew24asu wrote:

no thats not cool. why should people work very hard to make alot of money only to give all of it back to people who have less?

becos jesus said if your neighbor asks for half your cloak, give him the whole thing. give up your possessions and devote your life to service. harder for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle than a rich man get into heaven.

wait, no he didnt. he said kill the heathens and discriminate against homos.

jlew24asu

soulsinging wrote:

i think people voted democrat specifically becos they wanted real policy on these issues, not more republican smokescreen about "9/11, iraq, bin laden, freedom is on the march."

change is good. although I would much rather see Obama as president rather then nancy pelosi as speaker.

Heineken Helen

redrock wrote:

Don't know.... I'm not british either....

Maybe it's because we realise that there is a world around us and we are not the only country around. Maybe because we are open to world politics and are not so self-centered and don't have our heads stuck up our arse.

:eek: Yeh, what she said

soulsinging

jlew24asu wrote:

change is good. although I would much rather see Obama as president rather then nancy pelosi as speaker.

im not too keen on pelosi myself. i think she could do the dems more harm than good. im hoping the tide of conervative support for dems will force her to moderate her rhetoric. she's as out of touch with america as dubya is.

newagehippie

jlew24asu wrote:

change is good. although I would much rather see Obama as president rather then nancy pelosi as speaker.

I think Sen. Obama would make a great President.....

jeffer96

soulsinging wrote:

becos jesus said if your neighbor asks for half your cloak, give him the whole thing. give up your possessions and devote your life to service. harder for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle than a rich man get into heaven.

wait, no he didnt. he said kill the heathens and discriminate against homos.

Christians should have no problems helping out those who need it. My wife and I find more joy in sending what little money we can to a homeless shelter or battered women's shelter than we ever could in spending that money on ourselves.

On the same note, our current welfare system is in shambles. People no longer have a sense of responsiblity to themselves, their families, or their neighbors. The Bible also talks about laziness:


Laziness and the Christian:

A new believer is truthfully taught that “by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast” (Ephesians 2:8-9). But a believer can become idle if he erroneously believes that God expects no fruit from a transformed life. “For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them” (Ephesians 2:10). Slothfulness violates God’s purpose – good works. The Lord, however, empowers Christians to overcome the flesh’s propensity to laziness.

Also, at no point in the Bible does Jesus mention killing heathens or discriminating against gays. Honestly, if Christ was walking amongst us today, I fully believe He would spend his time with those of us that do not claim to be perfect in whatever area of their life (I lived with my wife for a year before we were married. I believe Christ would look upon that in the same light as two men or two women sharing a bed). There is no way He would spend time in what the mainstream church has become...other than maybe to destroy the "false temple" as He did so in the Bible.

The Bible has been changed over time by man. The true calling of God and of Jesus is love and compassion. Please don't let the words of a corrupt and so called church of god sway you away from the Lord. The Bible also states that "church" is the meeting of two or more people in the name of God. You do not have to walk into a building on Sunday morning and hand over your hard earned because some person in a funny robe tells you to. I find the best church in the world is finding a homeless person on the street, taking them into a restaurant, buying breakfast, lunch, dinner, or whatever, and just listening to them. Anyway, sorry to change the subject of this topic so much. I just get the opinion that God gets a raw deal in the world because of the corruption of man using His name.

jlew24asu

soulsinging wrote:

im not too keen on pelosi myself. i think she could do the dems more harm than good. im hoping the tide of conervative support for dems will force her to moderate her rhetoric. she's as out of touch with america as dubya is.

see we arent that far off after all. except I fear you are a cubs fan

jlew24asu

newagehippie wrote:

I think Sen. Obama would make a great President.....

and so would you

soulsinging

jeffer96 wrote:

I just get the opinion that God gets a raw deal in the world because of the corruption of man using His name.

you might be right there. it's often tough to separate the message from the messenger, esp when the messengers are so adamant. i grew up catholic. left in adolescence. but ill tell you, i respect them far more than the mainstream american protestant church, which seems to be little more than a political machine anymore.

soulsinging

jlew24asu wrote:

see we arent that far off after all. except I fear you are a cubs fan

worse... a tigers fan. how were the playoffs?

jlew24asu

soulsinging wrote:

worse... a tigers fan. how were the playoffs?

did you go to detroit for the parade? o wait..


sorry I was thinking of the one that went down the center of downtown chicago.

soulsinging

jlew24asu wrote:

did you go to detroit for the parade? o wait..


sorry I was thinking of the one that went down the center of downtown chicago.

typical republican... still stroking it to past glories and trying to pretend the present doesnt exist

newagehippie

jeffer96 wrote:

Christians should have no problems helping out those who need it.

Actually, truly loving persons should have no problems helping out those in need......it is not a religious concept, it is a human concept.....

Uncle Leo

darkcrow wrote:

this is a nice story
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/08/america/NA_POL_US_Election_Muslim.php

Born and raised in that district..

jlew24asu

soulsinging wrote:

typical republican... still stroking it to past glories and trying to pretend the present doesnt exist

dont know how many times I have to say it. I'm not a republican.

Uncle Leo

jlew24asu wrote:

dont know how many times I have to say it. I'm not a republican.

I've been there. I am constantly referred to as a democrat.