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Heineken Helen

lgt wrote:

The Democrats have now control of the House for the first time in 12 years, which give them powers to initiate legislation and heading up the Congress Commissions. They would also have powers to start proceedings to impeach the President, if they want.

If they also gain the Senate, which is likely pending recounting in Virginia, they would have a stronger position from which to influence and change American politics from the destructive path that Bush and his neo-cons posse have led America - and the world by default - to.

PS Bush as president of course still has the powers to veto legislation.

thanks L I needed it spelled out for me. I stopped giving a shite about American politics a while ago but the excitement generated by this has got me interested.

Jeanwah

evenkat wrote:

I still have my fingers crossed hoping the Dems sweep and take the Senate too. I'm also happy because NY elected a democratic governor for the first time in 12 years... .

Yeah baby, and it was a landslide for Spitzer winning!

lgt

newagehippie wrote:

Correct me if I am wrong....when the Republicans won the house, the first thing they did was draw up impeachment proceedings on Clinton....true??

The Republicans won in 94 with Newt Gringrich but formally proceedings to impeach Clinton for his sexual shenanigans and related lawsuits started with Kenneth Starr prosecuting later on in... 1998 was it?

let me check...

yes, 1998

http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/impeachments/clinton.htm

http://www.eagleton.rutgers.edu/e-gov/e-politicalarchive-Clintonimpeach.htm

Edited to add: yep, what the others said. The impeachment came later, with a specific intent from the Republicans.

lgt

Heineken Helen wrote:

thanks L I needed it spelled out for me. I stopped giving a shite about American politics a while ago but the excitement generated by this has got me interested.

You're welcome!

Hopefully things will start changing for the better, in terms of US Foreign Policy, which is what I am interested about as a citizen of the world.

With the Dem win and the soon to be published Baker Commission reports, there will be a possible solution for the mess in Iraq, based on talking to people and not bombing them on false pretence.

redrock

Only approx 1700 votes difference in Montana (at 99%)!!!!! Dems still ahead though. Only Meagher hasn't given their data. Does anyone know which way they have a tendency to go?

jlew24asu

Puck78 wrote:

ehehehehehehhehehehehehehehehehehehhehehehehehhehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehheehheheheheeheheheh*


*I just woke up (UK here) and saw the news

I still get surprised on how so many UK people are glued to american politics. I guess you are our puppet. you have to watch the people pulling your strings.

Puck78

jlew24asu wrote:

I still get surprised on how so many UK people are glued to american politics. I guess you are our puppet. you have to watch the people pulling your strings.

are they? possible, I'm not British so I don't know... let's ask them together...

inmytree

jlew24asu wrote:

I still get surprised on how so many UK people are glued to american politics. I guess you are our puppet. you have to watch the people pulling your strings.

again with this...I still wonder why it's ok for the citizens of the US to be interested in other countries, yet others can't be interested in the US...

as for the point of this thread, I am happy at the outcome of the mid-term elections...however, unlike my friends on the other side, who would support bush no matter what, I plan to be as critical of the dems as I was of bushy and repubs...

I'm curious to see how things go...

newagehippie

know1 wrote:

You are wrong. They won in '94.

thanks

mookie in eugene wrote:

The impeachment occurred a few years after they won the 94 election.

Watching CNN, MSNBC, and FOX last night was very exciting and fun. Fun because of the utter disapointment and shock that the FOX people had about the results especially the lead anchor (I forget his name and I don't care).

Thanks

lgt wrote:

The Republicans won in 94 with Newt Gringrich but formally proceedings to impeach Clinton for his sexual shenanigans and related lawsuits started with Kenneth Starr prosecuting later on in... 1998 was it?

let me check...

yes, 1998

http://www.historyplace.com/unitedst...ts/clinton.htm

http://www.eagleton.rutgers.edu/e-go...tonimpeach.htm

Edited to add: yep, what the others said. The impeachment came later, with a specific intent from the Republicans.

thanks....

redrock

jlew24asu wrote:

I still get surprised on how so many UK people are glued to american politics. I guess you are our puppet. you have to watch the people pulling your strings.

Don't know.... I'm not british either....

Maybe it's because we realise that there is a world around us and we are not the only country around. Maybe because we are open to world politics and are not so self-centered and don't have our heads stuck up our arse.

newagehippie

jlew24asu wrote:

I still get surprised on how so many UK people are glued to american politics. I guess you are our puppet. you have to watch the people pulling your strings.

what do you mean UK people?? The whole fucking world is glued to our politics becasue we have a fucking idiot as a president and everyone in the world is hoping for change in american politics in hopes that we will finally start promoting peace instead of trying to inforce peace with war, (which is the biggest oxymoron in the world). Don't knock on the UK at least they are paying attention to what is going on, which unfortunately is more than most American citizens are doing.....

sorry didn't mean to yell.....:o

redrock

newagehippie wrote:

what do you mean UK people?? The whole fucking world is glued to our politics becasue we have a fucking idiot as a president and everyone in the world is hoping for change in american politics in hopes that we will finally start promoting peace instead of trying to inforce peace with war, (which is the biggest oxymoron in the world). Don't knock on the UK at least they are paying attention to what is going on, which unfortunately is more than most American citizens are doing.....

sorry didn't mean to yell.....:o

Just say it as it is!!! :D (Hi!)

jlew24asu

inmytree wrote:

again with this...I still wonder why it's ok for the citizens of the US to be interested in other countries, yet others can't be interested in the US...

as for the point of this thread, I am happy at the outcome of the mid-term elections...however, unlike my friends on the other side, who would support bush no matter what, I plan to be as critical of the dems as I was of bushy and repubs...

I'm curious to see how things go...

be interested all you want. but it seems most non americans are only interested in Bush, or any republican, losing simply becuase they hop on the hate georgie bandwagon...instead of looking at the real issues. those issues deal directly with americans, like social security, healthcare, homeland security, border control, taxes...etc.

jlew24asu

newagehippie wrote:

what do you mean UK people?? The whole fucking world is glued to our politics becasue we have a fucking idiot as a president and everyone in the world is hoping for change in american politics in hopes that we will finally start promoting peace instead of trying to inforce peace with war, (which is the biggest oxymoron in the world). Don't knock on the UK at least they are paying attention to what is going on, which unfortunately is more than most American citizens are doing.....

sorry didn't mean to yell.....:o

this election, espically local elections, have much more important issues then our idiot president. and that change wont come until 08 anyway.

inmytree

jlew24asu wrote:

be interested all you want. but it seems most non americans are only interested in Bush, or any republican, losing simply becuase they hop on the hate georgie bandwagon...instead of looking at the real issues. those issues deal directly with americans, like social security, healthcare, homeland security, border control, taxes...etc.

so, why is it ok for the US to be interested in other counties and people for other counties can't be interested in the US...? your answer is not clear, at least to me....

As for their interest in bush and the US, believe it or not, the choices made by the leadership of the US effects the world, therefore, effecting people abroad, therefore they are interested...would Blair have gone into Iraq without US involvment, I would have to say 'no'...

Vedderlution_Baby

Even though the president isnt changing, this could still have international effects.

Byrnzie

know1 wrote:

You mean higher taxes. How are those cool?

Higher taxes for the rich. Cool!

newagehippie

jlew24asu wrote:

this election, espically local elections, have much more important issues then our idiot president. and that change wont come until 08 anyway.

this is very true, but House and senate seats are not really just "local" elections are they?? With the shift in the House, you will have the dems beings heads of committees, and the dems that will hold those positions happen to be very liberal, replacing the repubs who held those positions which were very conservative. So I agree there are some local issues and some things other than the pres, but in order to move things toward a better tommorrow in 08' this shift needed to happen in this election.

Byrnzie

newagehippie wrote:

thanks

Thanks

thanks....

Thanks! :cool:

jlew24asu

Byrnzie wrote:

Higher taxes for the rich. Cool!

no thats not cool. why should people work very hard to make alot of money only to give all of it back to people who have less?