I still get surprised on how so many UK people are glued to american politics. I guess you are our puppet. you have to watch the people pulling your strings.
be interested all you want. but it seems most non americans are only interested in Bush, or any republican, losing simply becuase they hop on the hate georgie bandwagon...instead of looking at the real issues. those issues deal directly with americans, like social security, healthcare, homeland security, border control, taxes...etc.
i think people voted democrat specifically becos they wanted real policy on these issues, not more republican smokescreen about "9/11, iraq, bin laden, freedom is on the march."
no thats not cool. why should people work very hard to make alot of money only to give all of it back to people who have less?
becos jesus said if your neighbor asks for half your cloak, give him the whole thing. give up your possessions and devote your life to service. harder for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle than a rich man get into heaven.
wait, no he didnt. he said kill the heathens and discriminate against homos.
i think people voted democrat specifically becos they wanted real policy on these issues, not more republican smokescreen about "9/11, iraq, bin laden, freedom is on the march."
change is good. although I would much rather see Obama as president rather then nancy pelosi as speaker.
Maybe it's because we realise that there is a world around us and we are not the only country around. Maybe because we are open to world politics and are not so self-centered and don't have our heads stuck up our arse.
:eek: Yeh, what she said
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
change is good. although I would much rather see Obama as president rather then nancy pelosi as speaker.
im not too keen on pelosi myself. i think she could do the dems more harm than good. im hoping the tide of conervative support for dems will force her to moderate her rhetoric. she's as out of touch with america as dubya is.
becos jesus said if your neighbor asks for half your cloak, give him the whole thing. give up your possessions and devote your life to service. harder for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle than a rich man get into heaven.
wait, no he didnt. he said kill the heathens and discriminate against homos.
Christians should have no problems helping out those who need it. My wife and I find more joy in sending what little money we can to a homeless shelter or battered women's shelter than we ever could in spending that money on ourselves.
On the same note, our current welfare system is in shambles. People no longer have a sense of responsiblity to themselves, their families, or their neighbors. The Bible also talks about laziness:
Laziness and the Christian:
A new believer is truthfully taught that “by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast” (Ephesians 2:8-9). But a believer can become idle if he erroneously believes that God expects no fruit from a transformed life. “For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them” (Ephesians 2:10). Slothfulness violates God’s purpose – good works. The Lord, however, empowers Christians to overcome the flesh’s propensity to laziness.
Also, at no point in the Bible does Jesus mention killing heathens or discriminating against gays. Honestly, if Christ was walking amongst us today, I fully believe He would spend his time with those of us that do not claim to be perfect in whatever area of their life (I lived with my wife for a year before we were married. I believe Christ would look upon that in the same light as two men or two women sharing a bed). There is no way He would spend time in what the mainstream church has become...other than maybe to destroy the "false temple" as He did so in the Bible.
The Bible has been changed over time by man. The true calling of God and of Jesus is love and compassion. Please don't let the words of a corrupt and so called church of god sway you away from the Lord. The Bible also states that "church" is the meeting of two or more people in the name of God. You do not have to walk into a building on Sunday morning and hand over your hard earned because some person in a funny robe tells you to. I find the best church in the world is finding a homeless person on the street, taking them into a restaurant, buying breakfast, lunch, dinner, or whatever, and just listening to them. Anyway, sorry to change the subject of this topic so much. I just get the opinion that God gets a raw deal in the world because of the corruption of man using His name.
im not too keen on pelosi myself. i think she could do the dems more harm than good. im hoping the tide of conervative support for dems will force her to moderate her rhetoric. she's as out of touch with america as dubya is.
see we arent that far off after all. except I fear you are a cubs fan
I just get the opinion that God gets a raw deal in the world because of the corruption of man using His name.
you might be right there. it's often tough to separate the message from the messenger, esp when the messengers are so adamant. i grew up catholic. left in adolescence. but ill tell you, i respect them far more than the mainstream american protestant church, which seems to be little more than a political machine anymore.
dont know how many times I have to say it. I'm not a republican.
conservative then. whatever label you prefer. the inference was stroking it to the good ole days when americans were god fearing, women stayed home, gays stayed in the closet, and abortion was illegal. it was just a joke comrade
Actually, truly loving persons should have no problems helping out those in need......it is not a religious concept, it is a human concept.....
Oh I agree. People should help people that truly need the help. As a Christian, I get the feeling often that non-Christians believe that all Christians come off as holier than thou. A true Christian should not give off that vibe. I"ll be the first to tell you that I am no better than anyone else. In fact, I will be the first to say I am worse than anyone else because I know my actions and the decisions I am reponsible for. As far as others, I care more about the person than what they do or have done. Those actions are something that is between them and God and are really none of my business. Obiviously if it is an action that is criminal, like murder, then a blind shoulder cannot be turned to the actions, but I believe in doing the best I can to forgive. I used to be a supporter of the death penalty, but as that is completely hypocritical of my beliefs, can no longer support it. I don't mind paying taxes to house inmates if it means the inmate has every opportunity to make amends for what they have done. Anyway, I'm getting way off tangent from the topic of this post. Sorry about that!
be interested all you want. but it seems most non americans are only interested in Bush, or any republican, losing simply becuase they hop on the hate georgie bandwagon...instead of looking at the real issues. those issues deal directly with americans, like social security, healthcare, homeland security, border control, taxes...etc.
you might be right there. it's often tough to separate the message from the messenger, esp when the messengers are so adamant. i grew up catholic. left in adolescence. but ill tell you, i respect them far more than the mainstream american protestant church, which seems to be little more than a political machine anymore.
It is tough. Especially when you see so many hypocritical people condemning others and using the name of God to do so. In my opinion, and this is solely my opinion, the only Christian in the mainstream that is absolutely sincere is Billy Graham. This is a man who preaches nothing but love, has been in council with so many past Presidents that the number slips my mind, yet is humble enough to say that his actions are not enough to earn him a spot in Heaven.
I put my faith in God to remove the corrupt using his name for personal gain. We just saw this exact thing happen in Colorado last week. Haggert claimed a holier than thou attitude and look where that got him. I also put my faith in the people of this country not following a person just because they say they are a Christian or moral or whatever. Obviously there are some sheeple, as there will be in any society, but there are more people looking at the big picture here than not and this can only lead to good things.
no thats not cool. why should people work very hard to make alot of money only to give all of it back to people who have less?
Depends on your conception of government. Ask the Scandinavian countries where the majority of people are happy to pay higher taxes for public services, including health.
Yours is the textbook political conservative view.
Redistribution of income via taxation, regardless of working very hard or not (you can also inherit wealth or steal it, not just work), is a central tenet of any democratic government to guarantee services for the general public. The higher the level of taxation the more to the left the government leans.
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It's like a freak show to us! We're addicted.
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'work very hard'? Like those hard workers at Halliburton and Enron you mean? That's not work, that's gambling!
i think people voted democrat specifically becos they wanted real policy on these issues, not more republican smokescreen about "9/11, iraq, bin laden, freedom is on the march."
becos jesus said if your neighbor asks for half your cloak, give him the whole thing. give up your possessions and devote your life to service. harder for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle than a rich man get into heaven.
wait, no he didnt. he said kill the heathens and discriminate against homos.
change is good. although I would much rather see Obama as president rather then nancy pelosi as speaker.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
im not too keen on pelosi myself. i think she could do the dems more harm than good. im hoping the tide of conervative support for dems will force her to moderate her rhetoric. she's as out of touch with america as dubya is.
I think Sen. Obama would make a great President.....
NEWAGEHIPPIE
Keep your eyes open, eventually something will happen....
Christians should have no problems helping out those who need it. My wife and I find more joy in sending what little money we can to a homeless shelter or battered women's shelter than we ever could in spending that money on ourselves.
On the same note, our current welfare system is in shambles. People no longer have a sense of responsiblity to themselves, their families, or their neighbors. The Bible also talks about laziness:
Laziness and the Christian:
A new believer is truthfully taught that “by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast” (Ephesians 2:8-9). But a believer can become idle if he erroneously believes that God expects no fruit from a transformed life. “For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them” (Ephesians 2:10). Slothfulness violates God’s purpose – good works. The Lord, however, empowers Christians to overcome the flesh’s propensity to laziness.
Also, at no point in the Bible does Jesus mention killing heathens or discriminating against gays. Honestly, if Christ was walking amongst us today, I fully believe He would spend his time with those of us that do not claim to be perfect in whatever area of their life (I lived with my wife for a year before we were married. I believe Christ would look upon that in the same light as two men or two women sharing a bed). There is no way He would spend time in what the mainstream church has become...other than maybe to destroy the "false temple" as He did so in the Bible.
The Bible has been changed over time by man. The true calling of God and of Jesus is love and compassion. Please don't let the words of a corrupt and so called church of god sway you away from the Lord. The Bible also states that "church" is the meeting of two or more people in the name of God. You do not have to walk into a building on Sunday morning and hand over your hard earned because some person in a funny robe tells you to. I find the best church in the world is finding a homeless person on the street, taking them into a restaurant, buying breakfast, lunch, dinner, or whatever, and just listening to them. Anyway, sorry to change the subject of this topic so much. I just get the opinion that God gets a raw deal in the world because of the corruption of man using His name.
see we arent that far off after all. except I fear you are a cubs fan
and so would you
you might be right there. it's often tough to separate the message from the messenger, esp when the messengers are so adamant. i grew up catholic. left in adolescence. but ill tell you, i respect them far more than the mainstream american protestant church, which seems to be little more than a political machine anymore.
worse... a tigers fan. how were the playoffs?
did you go to detroit for the parade? o wait..
sorry I was thinking of the one that went down the center of downtown chicago.
typical republican... still stroking it to past glories and trying to pretend the present doesnt exist
Actually, truly loving persons should have no problems helping out those in need......it is not a religious concept, it is a human concept.....
NEWAGEHIPPIE
Keep your eyes open, eventually something will happen....
Born and raised in that district..
dont know how many times I have to say it. I'm not a republican.
I've been there. I am constantly referred to as a democrat.
I'm much too virtuous to be in politics...
NEWAGEHIPPIE
Keep your eyes open, eventually something will happen....
conservative then. whatever label you prefer. the inference was stroking it to the good ole days when americans were god fearing, women stayed home, gays stayed in the closet, and abortion was illegal. it was just a joke comrade
Oh I agree. People should help people that truly need the help. As a Christian, I get the feeling often that non-Christians believe that all Christians come off as holier than thou. A true Christian should not give off that vibe. I"ll be the first to tell you that I am no better than anyone else. In fact, I will be the first to say I am worse than anyone else because I know my actions and the decisions I am reponsible for. As far as others, I care more about the person than what they do or have done. Those actions are something that is between them and God and are really none of my business. Obiviously if it is an action that is criminal, like murder, then a blind shoulder cannot be turned to the actions, but I believe in doing the best I can to forgive. I used to be a supporter of the death penalty, but as that is completely hypocritical of my beliefs, can no longer support it. I don't mind paying taxes to house inmates if it means the inmate has every opportunity to make amends for what they have done. Anyway, I'm getting way off tangent from the topic of this post. Sorry about that!
Its not hate George.. its "Stop George"
It is tough. Especially when you see so many hypocritical people condemning others and using the name of God to do so. In my opinion, and this is solely my opinion, the only Christian in the mainstream that is absolutely sincere is Billy Graham. This is a man who preaches nothing but love, has been in council with so many past Presidents that the number slips my mind, yet is humble enough to say that his actions are not enough to earn him a spot in Heaven.
I put my faith in God to remove the corrupt using his name for personal gain. We just saw this exact thing happen in Colorado last week. Haggert claimed a holier than thou attitude and look where that got him. I also put my faith in the people of this country not following a person just because they say they are a Christian or moral or whatever. Obviously there are some sheeple, as there will be in any society, but there are more people looking at the big picture here than not and this can only lead to good things.
You're not a member of the Klan are you?
the Klan?
Grand Wizard jlew24asu?
thanks for the very offensive comment. not sure how I ever came across as a racist
Depends on your conception of government. Ask the Scandinavian countries where the majority of people are happy to pay higher taxes for public services, including health.
Yours is the textbook political conservative view.
Redistribution of income via taxation, regardless of working very hard or not (you can also inherit wealth or steal it, not just work), is a central tenet of any democratic government to guarantee services for the general public. The higher the level of taxation the more to the left the government leans.