Should The Pope Be Killed?

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Muslim extremist leader Anjem Choudary said during a protest outside Westminster Cathedral that those who insulted Islam would be "subject to capital punishment". The other day a nun was shot dead in Somalia by Islamic gunmen and churches came under attack in Palestine.

As well as signs attacking the Pope such as "Pope go to Hell", his followers outside the country's principal Roman Catholic church also waved slogans such as "Jesus is the slave of Allah".

What do you guys think? Should the Pope be killed for quoting a medieval emperor who said Mohammed was "evil and inhuman"? These Muslim extremist are in the same boat as KKK members and the "God hates Fags" group in my mind.

ryan198

I'd actually say that all the CEO's and majority stockholders on the Forbes Fortune 500 should be killed, but I mean the pope would come in at about 501st.

FinsburyParkCarrots

I caught a radio interview with Choudary tonight. He was being very equivocal and spineless, compared with his earlier stance. Many muslims phoned in the show afterwards, to condemn him wholeheartedly.

rebornFixer

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

I caught a radio interview with Choudary tonight. He was being very equivocal and spineless, compared with his earlier stance. Many muslims phoned in the show afterwards, to condemn him wholeheartedly.

What was his earlier stance? Open-minded tolerance of other religions?

bootlegger10

Nobody should be killed for just saying something.

IrishJam

the main word in the whole debate is "quote"
that is all he did
he should not have as this was the obvious outcome
but they are not his words.

Cosmo

Killed? No. Maybe Pimp Slapped down the aisle for being stupid... I mean, doesn't he remember what these crazy fucks did over a goddamn cartoon? Come on Pope, set down the Bible and read a fucking newspaper once in a while.

rebornFixer

Cosmo wrote:

Killed? No. Maybe Pimp Slapped down the aisle for being stupid... I mean, doesn't he remember what these crazy fucks did over a goddamn cartoon? Come on Pope, set down the Bible and read a fucking newspaper once in a while.

I don't know, dude. I agree that not provoking crazy fucks is a good thing. The fact that said fucks are so crazy is problematic, though. The reaction to the Pope is a symptom of sick fuckery, not a cause.

FinsburyParkCarrots

reborncareerist wrote:

What was his earlier stance? Open-minded tolerance of other religions?

That's a good question. I meant by my comment, that his remarks tonight were far less overt than his tirade against the Pope, outside Westminister Cathedral. He's good at shouting in the street, but put on the spot, he starts playing with semantics.

He was, reportedly, an acid-tripping, joint-smoking, cider-drinking medical student, at Southampton University. He liked to be called Andy. After conversion (or rebirth, or whatever), he'd appear on the talk radio circuit, spreading his opinions, but wasn't anywhere as extreme as he's become recently.

Cosmo

reborncareerist wrote:

I don't know, dude. I agree that not provoking crazy fucks is a good thing. The fact that said fucks are so crazy is problematic, though. The reaction to the Pope is a symptom of sick fuckery, not a cause.

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It's sort of like pissing on a hornet's nest... if you see some dude do it and get his ass and dick stung by a swarm of the crazy hornet fucks... "Don't Piss On Hornet's Nests" should be the lesson you take away from this observation, right?
I haven't gotten the full story of the Pope's remarks and the context they were given... possibly a better forum would have been in his face to face open discussion about religions with other Muslim and Jewish religious leaders.

BetterRadio

ryan198 wrote:

I'd actually say that all the CEO's and majority stockholders on the Forbes Fortune 500 should be killed, but I mean the pope would come in at about 501st.

Why? That is the most ignorant statement i've ever read.

Yeah, because they were successful they deserve to die.

ryan198

BetterRadio wrote:

Why? That is the most ignorant statement i've ever read.

Yeah, because they were successful they deserve to die.

Firstly successful is a loaded term. If you think success is condemning billions to dealth and a life of poverty both in your country and in third world countries which, while previously poor, actually could feed themselves before your company set up shop there then so be it. I'd rather kill them and their greed machines and actually have a free society.

You would rather listen to news sources which are owned and operated by the very rich, for the benefit for the very rich, watch television shows owned by the very rich for the benefit of the very rich, involve yourself in an education system that is run, benefits, and is increasingly owned by the very rich, then claim that I am ignorant. hmm...

enharmonic

No, but he should step down.

NMyTree

Nobody should be killed or physically assaulted for saying something, even if the Pope said those things within the context of his own opinions.

These Muslims who are freaking out and speaking out in death threats, are blithering morons. They are ignorant fools of the worst kind.

Anjem Choudary is dumber than a doorknob on swinging doors.


This quote: " ........those who insulted Islam would be "subject to capital punishment". is by far the most barbaric, mindless and hateful comment I have ever seen. That quote says it all about the mentality of these freaks.


Words are words. It's unimaginable and dispicable that anyone thinks they have the right to kill someone else over some fuckin' words. Only ignorant arrogance and self-righteousness could think so.

I find it equally disgusting anyone should try to twist and spin this around and blame the moronic Pope for the ignorant actions of a group of people who are bigger morons than the Pope.

Vedderlution_Baby

While I do believe the pope to be an asshole, if we killed everyone who said something stupid....well...we'd all be dead.

NMyTree

enharmonic wrote:

No, but he should step down.

No, he should not.

The one's who should step down are the ignorant morons calling for his death and the death of anyone who insults Islam. They should be forced out of whatever position they fill, by the intelligent and peaceful Muslims of the world.

What a bunch of vile pieces of shit these people are. These fuckers insult anyone, everyone and everything, on a daily basis. But their ridiculous Islam religion is off limits? Fuck them!


Fuck Islam!

Fuck Muslims!

Fuck Mohammed!!

Mohammed was a pig fucker!

Oh my, look what I said. Goodness gracious.......I should be careful, they'll be blowing up my car:rolleyes:

Cosmo

NMyTree wrote:

No, he should not.

The one's who should step down are the ignorant morons calling for his death and the death of anyone who insults Islam. They should be forced out of whatever position they fill, by the intelligent and peaceful Muslims of the world.

What a bunch of vile pieces of shit these people are. They fuckers insult anyone, everyone and everything, on a daily basis. But their ridiculous Islam religion is off limits? Fuck them!


Fuck Islam!

Fuck Muslims!

Fuck Mohammed!!

Mohammed was a pig fucker!

Oh my, look what I said. Goodness gracious.......I should be careful, they'll be blowing up my car:rolleyes:

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You got that right.
Anyone remember Salmon Rushdie? A million dollar bounty placed on his head by Ayatollah Khomeni (a Shi'ite... as in the Shi'ites we are helping to gain control of Iraq, Shi'ites)... for the capital offense of...
Writing a book.

chopitdown

world wrote:

What do you guys think? Should the Pope be killed for quoting a medieval emperor who said Mohammed was "evil and inhuman"? These Muslim extremist are in the same boat as KKK members and the "God hates Fags" group in my mind.

Of course the pope shouldn't be killed. And doesn't history tell us that muhammed was somewhat violent?

sonicreducer

dude that title alone speaks of what this world has been spun into.

Ahnimus

This is due to the ideaology of Kuttup (sp?) in the 40's.

He taught that infidels or people who don't follow their interpretation of Islam word for word should be put to death.

Personally I could give a shit. The pope is a bigot IMO and so was Kuttup (sp?). I don't think the Pope should be killed, I don't think he should even be pope or such a thing should even exist.

The pope can worry about what his country "The Vatican" is doing and in the words of O'Reilly "just shut up" about what others are doing.

Purple Hawk

This is a weird for me to say given my ideological perspective vs. most people here, but I do think we need to give muslims a break here. We should be weary of jumping on the bandwagon. People, genuinely good people, are being manipulated by greedy people who seek power. The same logic that we criticize western leaders.