First off, Chavez is a socialist, not a fascist - though perhaps we're just splitting hairs.
Second, I don't blame Bush for everything wrong in the world. I think he's done a lot to harm our national character, and that's accidently put me in agreement with some of the things Chavez has said. That doesn't mean I support Chavez. I simply support his right to say what he does whether he would afford me the same luxury or not. Moral consistency, you understand.
Third, yes, it is entirely possible to be someone else's idiot besides Bush's. More often than not, though, useful idiots are useful to both sides.
Do you think Chavez can speak of any kind of morality?
You write that you don't support Chavez. Tell me, do you think Chavez has a problem with Bush or with the U.S. as a country? The problem is not just our current President, Chavez will insult any President that is at office, considering they don't adopt his Socialist/borderline Communist mentality. He, as well as his mentor, Castro, hate this country and all it stands for, no matter who its leader is.
Chavez went to the U.N. which happened to be in U.S. soil.
Although his comments are, at best, amusing, he is speaking from an international platform.
Bush is limiting his own people's freedom, Chavez is too. If you love the United States and all of the rights that have been so painstakingly defended you would have to seriously review how the Patriot Act goes about limiting them.
If you love Venezuela then you would have to focus on why the opposition in that country, albeit the foreign support, cannot muster up a clear-cut representative opposition. Help them out.
If you support peace, freedom and human rights and dignity then you wouldn't say that since what Bush does to his own people is not as bad as what Chavez does to his own then he should not be criticized.
The Bush administration managed to convince the country to go easy on them. Nobody wins when the checks and balances fail.
Besides, Democrats and Republicans are pretty much the same. You guys share a bigger common ground than you realize.
Critisize Bush, or Clinton, or our next President, whomever it may be.
What I see wrong is allowing a pig like Chavez who worships Fidel Castro (which says it all) to come into our soil and speak to Americans about our President and our country. Insulting our president on our soil is disrespectful to all Americans, not just Bush. That is what a lot of people don't understand. Do you think an American would be able to stand on Venezuelan soil and call Chavez the devil?
Can you please explain how insulting your president on your soil is disrespectful to all Americans? You are implying that Bush represents all Americans. Bush doesn't represent all Americans. He represents those in power and money who benefit from his policies. There are also a large amount of Americans who think that Bush represents them, or benefits them, simply because they are deluded. As far an American being able to stand on Venezuelan soil and call Chavez the devil, why not? You talk about Venezuala as if it's Stalinist Russia, or Nazi Germany. I don't know what kind of anti Chavez propaganda the U.S media has been bombarding you with recently, but it appears that the spin doctors are succeeding in getting you on their side, just as they did before the Iraq war.
By the way, don't forget that the 40 year U.S blockade of Cuba is illegal.
Do you think Chavez can speak of any kind of morality?
You write that you don't support Chavez. Tell me, do you think Chavez has a problem with Bush or with the U.S. as a country? The problem is not just our current President, Chavez will insult any President that is at office, considering they don't adopt his Socialist/borderline Communist mentality. He, as well as his mentor, Castro, hate this country and all it stands for, no matter who its leader is.
I have no problem with Chavez - or any other world leader - insulting this president or any president, whether I agree with the leader or not. You'd think we'd have thick enough skin to handle these tirades.
Can Chavez speak of morality? I suppose it depends on the subject. I can speak of my own, though; and my own morality demands that we have free speech within the boarders of this country whether other countries follow suit or not. Or, as the old saying goes, you have no right to not be insulted in this country.
This is so condescending. You're from England, no?
I said "There are also a large amount of Americans.." I didn't say 'all Americans'. As far as me being from England, I would love to hear some criticism on this board of the U.K government e.t.c, as there doesn't appear to be enough of it on this board for my liking.
I said "There are also a large amount of Americans.." I didn't say 'all Americans'. As far as me being from England, I would love to hear some criticism on this board of the U.K government e.t.c, as there doesn't appear to be enough of it on this board for my liking.
Why is anyone that supports Bush "deluded?" Can people have opinions different from your own without being called deluded?
Can you please explain how insulting your president on your soil is disrespectful to all Americans? You are implying that Bush represents all Americans. Bush doesn't represent all Americans. He represents those in power and money who benefit from his policies. There are also a large amount of Americans who think that Bush represents them, or benefits them, simply because they are deluded. As far an American being able to stand on Venezuelan soil and call Chavez the devil, why not? You talk about Venezuala as if it's Stalinist Russia, or Nazi Germany. I don't know what kind of anti Chavez propaganda the U.S media has been bombarding you with recently, but it appears that the spin doctors are succeeding in getting you on their side, just as they did before the Iraq war.
By the way, don't forget that the 40 year U.S blockade of Cuba is illegal.
I don't need any spin doctors to convince me of anything.
My father was able to leave Cuba after being imprisoned for doing what you do here everday which is disagree with your government. He spent 14 years of a life sentence being tortured, physically and mentally. My father lost his youth and will never be the same. All of this thanks to a dictator who Chavez supports, admires, and emulates. Now in my opinion, this simple association that is no big deal to many people who choose ignorance is a big deal to me. However, to people who have been directly affected by either Cuba's or Venezuela's leaders, as thousands have, hold both Chavez and Fidel in the same regard.
Again, I do not need spin doctors to convince me of anything. Personal experience is all I need. To you Chavez is probably just this man who is supposedly a benefit to a country that in reality is falling apart. The level of corruption and crime in Venezuela is incredible, and the country is slowly following Cuba's lead.
I do not support or condemn the U.S. embargo. Now honestly, I say lift the embargo to Cuba just to prove to people that NOTHING WILL CHANGE!
The problem is Castro and his control over the people of Cuba. There does not exist open trade to Cuba, however, there are still U.S. companies that provide cargo to Cuba. Things will not change.
The only difference between Chavez and Fidel is that one is a follower, adn the other, a pathetic leader. To me anyone who sympathizes or agrees with anything either of them has to say is completely deluded.
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Do you think Chavez can speak of any kind of morality?
You write that you don't support Chavez. Tell me, do you think Chavez has a problem with Bush or with the U.S. as a country? The problem is not just our current President, Chavez will insult any President that is at office, considering they don't adopt his Socialist/borderline Communist mentality. He, as well as his mentor, Castro, hate this country and all it stands for, no matter who its leader is.
Although his comments are, at best, amusing, he is speaking from an international platform.
Bush is limiting his own people's freedom, Chavez is too. If you love the United States and all of the rights that have been so painstakingly defended you would have to seriously review how the Patriot Act goes about limiting them.
If you love Venezuela then you would have to focus on why the opposition in that country, albeit the foreign support, cannot muster up a clear-cut representative opposition. Help them out.
If you support peace, freedom and human rights and dignity then you wouldn't say that since what Bush does to his own people is not as bad as what Chavez does to his own then he should not be criticized.
The Bush administration managed to convince the country to go easy on them. Nobody wins when the checks and balances fail.
Besides, Democrats and Republicans are pretty much the same. You guys share a bigger common ground than you realize.
Can you please explain how insulting your president on your soil is disrespectful to all Americans? You are implying that Bush represents all Americans. Bush doesn't represent all Americans. He represents those in power and money who benefit from his policies. There are also a large amount of Americans who think that Bush represents them, or benefits them, simply because they are deluded. As far an American being able to stand on Venezuelan soil and call Chavez the devil, why not? You talk about Venezuala as if it's Stalinist Russia, or Nazi Germany. I don't know what kind of anti Chavez propaganda the U.S media has been bombarding you with recently, but it appears that the spin doctors are succeeding in getting you on their side, just as they did before the Iraq war.
By the way, don't forget that the 40 year U.S blockade of Cuba is illegal.
Can Chavez speak of morality? I suppose it depends on the subject. I can speak of my own, though; and my own morality demands that we have free speech within the boarders of this country whether other countries follow suit or not. Or, as the old saying goes, you have no right to not be insulted in this country.
This is so condescending. You're from England, no?
I said "There are also a large amount of Americans.." I didn't say 'all Americans'. As far as me being from England, I would love to hear some criticism on this board of the U.K government e.t.c, as there doesn't appear to be enough of it on this board for my liking.
Why is anyone that supports Bush "deluded?" Can people have opinions different from your own without being called deluded?
I don't need any spin doctors to convince me of anything.
My father was able to leave Cuba after being imprisoned for doing what you do here everday which is disagree with your government. He spent 14 years of a life sentence being tortured, physically and mentally. My father lost his youth and will never be the same. All of this thanks to a dictator who Chavez supports, admires, and emulates. Now in my opinion, this simple association that is no big deal to many people who choose ignorance is a big deal to me. However, to people who have been directly affected by either Cuba's or Venezuela's leaders, as thousands have, hold both Chavez and Fidel in the same regard.
Again, I do not need spin doctors to convince me of anything. Personal experience is all I need. To you Chavez is probably just this man who is supposedly a benefit to a country that in reality is falling apart. The level of corruption and crime in Venezuela is incredible, and the country is slowly following Cuba's lead.
The problem is Castro and his control over the people of Cuba. There does not exist open trade to Cuba, however, there are still U.S. companies that provide cargo to Cuba. Things will not change.
The only difference between Chavez and Fidel is that one is a follower, adn the other, a pathetic leader. To me anyone who sympathizes or agrees with anything either of them has to say is completely deluded.