The interviewer should have interrupted him...held up a picture of http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/IraqMobileProductionFacilities.jpg and said...Yes Colin....that's all good and all...but do you think you're qualified to be making much of any statements with regards to future policies of other people when you couldn't even get your shit straight?
...and then hand him a tshirt with that picture silk screened on it as a gift, and thank him for coming out...
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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The interviewer should have interrupted him...held up a picture of http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/IraqMobileProductionFacilities.jpg and said...Yes Colin....that's all good and all...but do you think you're qualified to be making much of any statements with regards to future policies of other people when you couldn't even get your shit straight?
...and then hand him a tshirt with that picture silk screened on it as a gift, and thank him for coming out...
strange how powell has had his hand in dogsh*t through his career, but somehow always manages to come out smelling fresh. i cant figure out how he does it. the guy is so eloquent and always seems so sensible and after every interview, i like the guy. i like listening to what he has to say. i think thats why he always gets a free pass.
i think it's great for obama. whether you're for the war or not, it'll sway independents unsure of the experience factor when a former secretary of state endorses you and he's a republican. I still like Powell. I know he failed us by leading us there but i do respect him for stepping down and admitting his failings.
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He disagreed with the way the war was being fought; he agreed with the decision to go to war, at least at the time. So it's a little hard to listen to his talk of "negotiations", and "restoring our dignity in the world" when only five years ago either he disagreed with the necessity of such notions or didn't push back hard enough against the Cheney/Rumsfeld parts of the administration. If he felt there was an unnecessary rush to war, he should've pushed harder against it. It's the most important decision an administration can make.
I was under the impression that the respected retired military GENERAL Colin Powell was lied to and set up, by the sucking kiss ass George Tenet, then director of the CIA,, to support the
WMD bullshit aluminum tube thing in front of the entire UN!
Poor Bastard, all those years of service and look how his country thanks him!
Rumsfeld and Tenet are the real cunts in this story!
What I am trying to articulate is that maybe the lines were BLURRED for Powell, you know from "taking orders" then to having to "be THEE White House foreign policy representative".
This comment makes me a little curious... What will you do if Obama is elected?
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Colin Powell?!?!?!?! What happened to fresh face in Washington, to change? Obama has always been full of crap. He won people over in the beginning with this "change" that he would bring, but slowly he has reverted to everything political. Of course, politics and government cannot exist separately and Obama will make that very obvious in the not so far future.
I was under the impression that the respected retired military GENERAL Colin Powell was lied to and set up, by the sucking kiss ass George Tenet, then director of the CIA,, ".
Ok I can buy that. However why hasn't the great Colin Powell said this... Why couldn't he come out at the Dem's Convention and said he was lied to by Bush croines and he now regrets what he did... Sorry but its a little too late. Give me a break he give Obama an endorsement two weeks before election.
And now Obama says he will be a part of his admistration in some capacity...
What kind of message does that send. I guess if Obama want someone to throw under the bus, then the General is your man...
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Colin Powell?!?!?!?! What happened to fresh face in Washington, to change? Obama has always been full of crap. He won people over in the beginning with this "change" that he would bring, but slowly he has reverted to everything political. Of course, politics and government cannot exist separately and Obama will make that very obvious in the not so far future.
Winning a national election is about getting 51% of the vote...or less in some cases. So once politicians get their base, whatever they can do to get the centrists to vote for them, they will go for. At this point, no obama supporter is not going to vote for him now after powell endorses him, but maybe some in the middle will be convinced that he has enough legacy in his camp now. I think this is a big score to get those people in the center. Because they are the ones who decide elections, not us that want real change. That happens after he is elected.
Ok I can buy that. However why hasn't the great Colin Powell said this... Why couldn't he come out at the Dem's Convention and said he was lied to by Bush croines and he now regrets what he did... Sorry but its a little too late. Give me a break he give Obama an endorsement two weeks before election.
And now Obama says he will be a part of his admistration in some capacity...
What kind of message does that send. I guess if Obama want someone to throw under the bus, then the General is your man...
For the first part, it would just draw more attention for him. He'd be trading a general vibe of, "well, he's alright, i guess" for a scorned republican party and a small section of the democratic that still didn't believe him/trust him.
As for the second part, seriously, what the fuck? Sounds just as screwed up to me as it does to you...
Ok I can buy that. However why hasn't the great Colin Powell said this... Why couldn't he come out at the Dem's Convention and said he was lied to by Bush croines and he now regrets what he did... Sorry but its a little too late. Give me a break he give Obama an endorsement two weeks before election.
And now Obama says he will be a part of his admistration in some capacity...
What kind of message does that send. I guess if Obama want someone to throw under the bus, then the General is your man...
it was with complete sarcasim I loosely defended
Powell.
I agree with you that Powell should have communicated a reason, regret or an apology to the interested public, but whatever... Did he and I missed it?
I perceive the Obama Powell thing as the public gesture of reaching over the proverbial aisle...
And I haven't the faintest idea why Powell's endorsement is getting me to share comments on the train...
I just felt like he really got the shaft like everyone did from the Bush Admin
Maybe Powell represents to me the "well intentioned". And they took advatage of that..
I remember why I feel some empathy to Powell now, it was the Frontline episode Bush's War.
I remember why I feel some empathy to Powell now, it was the Frontline episode Bush's War.
I might just have to look that episode up... thanks!
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I got to see it twice, The Frontline, which was helpful. Its so exhausting to follow all of this over the years. That reminds me I need to get some more excedrin extra strength!
EDIT: Also, I'm not really sure why you're worked up. He said a major part of this decision was due to the Republican Party's direct path straight into the gutter over the past decade. Considering he's a moderate Republican, is it surprising that he doesn't see much in the party to like? Considering you're voting third party, I'm surprised you don't agree with that assessment.
How many white liberals has Powell supported in the past? Don't bother trying to find out, we all know the answer.
I can't believe that the Rush crowd is making this a race thing...
They are basically saying that an Army General is saying that voting for a black guy is more important than the good of the country.
I guess Lieberman picked McCain because he was white?
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Another black person endorsing Obama, big surprise.
This one happens to have no credibility as well.
This frankly pisses me off.
I can't remember if I read this here or somewhere else, but how many people bring up race when a white person endorses McCain? Race should have NO place in the discussion of this endorsement.
And to say that all blacks are simply voting for Obama because he's black, is also B.S... Kerry got 88% of the black vote 4 years ago... new flash, blacks usually vote Democrat, regardless of the candidate's race.
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Yeah because blacks are voting overwhelmingly for McCain. If you can't take the facts resort to name calling.
Even if blacks were to vote for McCain you would STILL find some issue or problem with them voting Republican. Face reality blacks have never voted majority for the Republican party.
Even if we had a black person running for President on the Republican side they would STILL vote for the Dems. Here in MD Michael Steele who is black ran for the Senate but STILL lost to Ben Cardin (Dem) in 2006 who happens to be white.
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...and then hand him a tshirt with that picture silk screened on it as a gift, and thank him for coming out...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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strange how powell has had his hand in dogsh*t through his career, but somehow always manages to come out smelling fresh. i cant figure out how he does it. the guy is so eloquent and always seems so sensible and after every interview, i like the guy. i like listening to what he has to say. i think thats why he always gets a free pass.
WMD bullshit aluminum tube thing in front of the entire UN!
Poor Bastard, all those years of service and look how his country thanks him!
Rumsfeld and Tenet are the real cunts in this story!
What I am trying to articulate is that maybe the lines were BLURRED for Powell, you know from "taking orders" then to having to "be THEE White House foreign policy representative".
This comment makes me a little curious... What will you do if Obama is elected?
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s/he won't accept it...;)
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Ok I can buy that. However why hasn't the great Colin Powell said this... Why couldn't he come out at the Dem's Convention and said he was lied to by Bush croines and he now regrets what he did... Sorry but its a little too late. Give me a break he give Obama an endorsement two weeks before election.
And now Obama says he will be a part of his admistration in some capacity...
What kind of message does that send. I guess if Obama want someone to throw under the bus, then the General is your man...
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Winning a national election is about getting 51% of the vote...or less in some cases. So once politicians get their base, whatever they can do to get the centrists to vote for them, they will go for. At this point, no obama supporter is not going to vote for him now after powell endorses him, but maybe some in the middle will be convinced that he has enough legacy in his camp now. I think this is a big score to get those people in the center. Because they are the ones who decide elections, not us that want real change. That happens after he is elected.
For the first part, it would just draw more attention for him. He'd be trading a general vibe of, "well, he's alright, i guess" for a scorned republican party and a small section of the democratic that still didn't believe him/trust him.
As for the second part, seriously, what the fuck? Sounds just as screwed up to me as it does to you...
If we think "Bush" is the problem, we really don't have a clue as to who owns & controls this country.
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Powell.
I agree with you that Powell should have communicated a reason, regret or an apology to the interested public, but whatever... Did he and I missed it?
I perceive the Obama Powell thing as the public gesture of reaching over the proverbial aisle...
And I haven't the faintest idea why Powell's endorsement is getting me to share comments on the train...
I just felt like he really got the shaft like everyone did from the Bush Admin
Maybe Powell represents to me the "well intentioned". And they took advatage of that..
I remember why I feel some empathy to Powell now, it was the Frontline episode Bush's War.
I might just have to look that episode up... thanks!
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Should I believe him now?
I'm so confused.
for the least they could possibly do
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/42_see_powell_endorsement_of_obama_as_possible
By comparison, Obama is at 54%, McCain at 53%... Bush around 25% or so.
Anyone who thinks an endorsement from someone as respected as this will not help Obama is crazy.
And he who forgets, will be destined to remember...
This one happens to have no credibility as well.
Rush?
Love your work.
Yeah, no way he actually weighed out the issues. It's not as if he explained why he'd be voting Obama.
Speaking of no credibility...
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How many white liberals has Powell supported in the past? Don't bother trying to find out, we all know the answer.
Yes, surely the matter of race would totally out-weigh his ideology. I hope you realise how gigantic an ass you sound, I'm guessing not though.
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You ARE Rush Limbaugh! How incredible to have the biggest blowhard in America gracing the boards with his presence!
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/Limbaugh_Where_are_the_inexperienced_white_liberals_Powell_has_endorsed.html?showall
Yeah because blacks are voting overwhelmingly for McCain. If you can't take the facts resort to name calling.
So can you answer his question? Who are they?
White liberals? Jimmy Carter, for one.
EDIT: Also, I'm not really sure why you're worked up. He said a major part of this decision was due to the Republican Party's direct path straight into the gutter over the past decade. Considering he's a moderate Republican, is it surprising that he doesn't see much in the party to like? Considering you're voting third party, I'm surprised you don't agree with that assessment.
I can't believe that the Rush crowd is making this a race thing...
They are basically saying that an Army General is saying that voting for a black guy is more important than the good of the country.
I guess Lieberman picked McCain because he was white?
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what's your point....?
This frankly pisses me off.
I can't remember if I read this here or somewhere else, but how many people bring up race when a white person endorses McCain? Race should have NO place in the discussion of this endorsement.
And to say that all blacks are simply voting for Obama because he's black, is also B.S... Kerry got 88% of the black vote 4 years ago... new flash, blacks usually vote Democrat, regardless of the candidate's race.
And he who forgets, will be destined to remember...
Even if blacks were to vote for McCain you would STILL find some issue or problem with them voting Republican. Face reality blacks have never voted majority for the Republican party.
Even if we had a black person running for President on the Republican side they would STILL vote for the Dems. Here in MD Michael Steele who is black ran for the Senate but STILL lost to Ben Cardin (Dem) in 2006 who happens to be white.
Lighten UP
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