Obama Get Colin Powell Endorsement

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  • Smartypants
    Smartypants Posts: 114
    SoonForgotten2 wrote:
    Yeah, I've becoming increasingly convinced that, despite his race, Obama is gonna take this in a landslide.

    I wish I could feel this way! Even watching Obama's poll numbers rise over the last several weeks hasn't allowed me to relax. It's mentally exhausting :(

    I just don't know about Ohio. And I don't trust Florida. At all. What if all the battlegrounds go McCain?

    I'm hopeful that Powell's endorsement will give Obama a bump in some of those states. I guess we'll know in a few days...
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  • Smartypants
    Smartypants Posts: 114
    I respect the heck out of Powell for saying "..and so what if he was a Muslim? What's wrong with a seven year old Muslim boy or girl out there dreaming that they could one day be President?" (paraphrasing)
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  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    Smartypants wrote:
    I respect the heck out of Powell for saying "..and so what if he was a Muslim? What's wrong with a seven year old Muslim boy or girl out there dreaming that they could one day be President?" (paraphrasing)


    Pretty shitty that it took someone that high up so long to say it.
  • Smartypants
    Smartypants Posts: 114
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    Pretty shitty that it took someone that high up so long to say it.

    Unfortunately, so many people are busy covering their butts, afraid that what they say will someday cost them votes or their job. It must be a luxury of being a retired politician that you're finally able to speak the truth. But yeah, pretty shitty that they feel that's necessary and pretty shitty that the electorate that makes them feel that way.
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  • dharma69
    dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    Pretty shitty that it took someone that high up so long to say it.
    It was said about a week ago...

    Unlike the Ayres noise, it just didn't resonate with the media. Any of it.

    But unfortunately it takes someone like Powell saying it so beautifully and thoughtfully for it to find it's rightful place.
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  • pateljam
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    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Colin Powell was a key turning point in lying to get the Iraq war sold to people, if not the key turning point. I wouldn't count on him as any great source of inspiration, unless starting fake wars and murdering innocent people is your hope and inspiration.

    Yeah... He stood up at the UN and lied to the world about WMD's and now he has the blood of over 4000 soliders on his hands.
    Sorry but this endorsement is a fuckin joke. If Obama had any God damn balls he would say thanks, but no thanks...
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  • pateljam
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    prytoj wrote:
    An Obama presidency is unacceptable.

    True, but so is a McCain presidency...
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  • jimed14
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    listen to how Powell said it ... well put ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efv3Vr8T9MA
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  • dmitry
    dmitry Posts: 136
    bush should endorse obama
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Obama should endorse Powell. i was watching his press conference and Powell basically put into words every reason i have not to vote for McCain.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    The interviewer should have interrupted him...held up a picture of http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/IraqMobileProductionFacilities.jpg and said...Yes Colin....that's all good and all...but do you think you're qualified to be making much of any statements with regards to future policies of other people when you couldn't even get your shit straight?

    ...and then hand him a tshirt with that picture silk screened on it as a gift, and thank him for coming out...
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  • FrankBauer
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    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    The interviewer should have interrupted him...held up a picture of http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/IraqMobileProductionFacilities.jpg and said...Yes Colin....that's all good and all...but do you think you're qualified to be making much of any statements with regards to future policies of other people when you couldn't even get your shit straight?

    ...and then hand him a tshirt with that picture silk screened on it as a gift, and thank him for coming out...

    strange how powell has had his hand in dogsh*t through his career, but somehow always manages to come out smelling fresh. i cant figure out how he does it. the guy is so eloquent and always seems so sensible and after every interview, i like the guy. i like listening to what he has to say. i think thats why he always gets a free pass.
  • pjfan020
    pjfan020 Posts: 426
    i think it's great for obama. whether you're for the war or not, it'll sway independents unsure of the experience factor when a former secretary of state endorses you and he's a republican. I still like Powell. I know he failed us by leading us there but i do respect him for stepping down and admitting his failings.
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  • my piece of clay
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    digster wrote:
    He disagreed with the way the war was being fought; he agreed with the decision to go to war, at least at the time. So it's a little hard to listen to his talk of "negotiations", and "restoring our dignity in the world" when only five years ago either he disagreed with the necessity of such notions or didn't push back hard enough against the Cheney/Rumsfeld parts of the administration. If he felt there was an unnecessary rush to war, he should've pushed harder against it. It's the most important decision an administration can make.
    I was under the impression that the respected retired military GENERAL Colin Powell was lied to and set up, by the sucking kiss ass George Tenet, then director of the CIA,, to support the
    WMD bullshit aluminum tube thing in front of the entire UN!
    Poor Bastard, all those years of service and look how his country thanks him!

    Rumsfeld and Tenet are the real cunts in this story!
    What I am trying to articulate is that maybe the lines were BLURRED for Powell, you know from "taking orders" then to having to "be THEE White House foreign policy representative".
  • blackredyellow
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    prytoj wrote:
    An Obama presidency is unacceptable.

    This comment makes me a little curious... What will you do if Obama is elected?
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  • inmytree
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    blackredyellow wrote:
    This comment makes me a little curious... What will you do if Obama is elected?

    s/he won't accept it...;)
  • rasty10
    rasty10 Posts: 68
    Colin Powell?!?!?!?! What happened to fresh face in Washington, to change? Obama has always been full of crap. He won people over in the beginning with this "change" that he would bring, but slowly he has reverted to everything political. Of course, politics and government cannot exist separately and Obama will make that very obvious in the not so far future.
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  • pateljam
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    my piece of clay wrote:
    I was under the impression that the respected retired military GENERAL Colin Powell was lied to and set up, by the sucking kiss ass George Tenet, then director of the CIA,, ".

    Ok I can buy that. However why hasn't the great Colin Powell said this... Why couldn't he come out at the Dem's Convention and said he was lied to by Bush croines and he now regrets what he did... Sorry but its a little too late. Give me a break he give Obama an endorsement two weeks before election.

    And now Obama says he will be a part of his admistration in some capacity...
    What kind of message does that send. I guess if Obama want someone to throw under the bus, then the General is your man...
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  • Speakers
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    rasty10 wrote:
    Colin Powell?!?!?!?! What happened to fresh face in Washington, to change? Obama has always been full of crap. He won people over in the beginning with this "change" that he would bring, but slowly he has reverted to everything political. Of course, politics and government cannot exist separately and Obama will make that very obvious in the not so far future.

    Winning a national election is about getting 51% of the vote...or less in some cases. So once politicians get their base, whatever they can do to get the centrists to vote for them, they will go for. At this point, no obama supporter is not going to vote for him now after powell endorses him, but maybe some in the middle will be convinced that he has enough legacy in his camp now. I think this is a big score to get those people in the center. Because they are the ones who decide elections, not us that want real change. That happens after he is elected.
  • nothinghead
    nothinghead Posts: 270
    pateljam wrote:
    Ok I can buy that. However why hasn't the great Colin Powell said this... Why couldn't he come out at the Dem's Convention and said he was lied to by Bush croines and he now regrets what he did... Sorry but its a little too late. Give me a break he give Obama an endorsement two weeks before election.

    And now Obama says he will be a part of his admistration in some capacity...
    What kind of message does that send. I guess if Obama want someone to throw under the bus, then the General is your man...

    For the first part, it would just draw more attention for him. He'd be trading a general vibe of, "well, he's alright, i guess" for a scorned republican party and a small section of the democratic that still didn't believe him/trust him.

    As for the second part, seriously, what the fuck? Sounds just as screwed up to me as it does to you...

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