A Question for War Supporters

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    inmytree wrote:
    wasn't your point; people from other countries have no idea what is going on in another country...? that's what I read, I may be wrong, but as I said, that was my take...


    replace another with our.
  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    jlew24asu wrote:
    replace another with our.

    are you saying that people don't know what's going on in this country but people in this country are aware of what is going on in other countries?
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    are you saying that people don't know what's going on in this country but people in this country are aware of what is going on in other countries?

    damn, you beat me to it...:)
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    are you saying that people don't know what's going on in this country but people in this country are aware of what is going on in other countries?


    no
  • The Illinoisemakers
    The Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    Puck78 wrote:
    people who support the war really don't know what war is.
    I tried one, i was against war before and I'm even more against it now. But still, i know a lot of people that didn't try one but are smart enough to be against it.... people that are for war have a distorted idea about what a war is.

    What?

    I support the war. As for the original posters question, about why don't those who support join the army. I have given a lot of thought to joining the armed forces. I think the thing that is really stopping me is family. I'm just not willing to leave my family and hopefully soon to be wife. Does that make me a hypocrite? Maybe, I don't know. It is an interesting question. What about all of those Bush haters who claimed they were going to move to Canada or Europe if Bush was reelected. I didn't see to many people follow through with that.
  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no

    what are you saying then...???

    just for the sake of clarification...when i say people knowing what is going on here, i mean people in other countries knowing what is going on here.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    what are you saying then...???

    just for the sake of clarification...when i say people knowing what is going on here, i mean people in other countries knowing what is going on here.


    I was specifically talking to someone not generalizing. if you want to know what I meant go back and read.
  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    What?

    I support the war. As for the original posters question, about why don't those who support join the army. I have given a lot of thought to joining the armed forces. I think the thing that is really stopping me is family. I'm just not willing to leave my family and hopefully soon to be wife. Does that make me a hypocrite? Maybe, I don't know. It is an interesting question. What about all of those Bush haters who claimed they were going to move to Canada or Europe if Bush was reelected. I didn't see to many people follow through with that.

    well, you know, if the terrorists win you'll have no family left...and you'll be forced to pray 5 times a day.

    people don't join the military because they like the lives they've carved out in this wonderful country. sure, it's wonderful, but it ain't no utopia. we can surely move to make it better.
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  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    jlew24asu wrote:
    it just amazes me how people from other countries seem to know exactly what is going on in America.

    absolutely no democracy to speak of? wow those are bold words.

    let's flip this...how does america know what is best for iraq...or iran...or north korea? why is it that people in other countries aren't allowed to know what is going on in america, no matter how much they actually do know, but america and americans are keenly aware of the issues that other countries face? you know, because by your statement you seem to be saying that the u.s. knows what is going on and what needs to be done elsewhere.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    let's flip this...how does america know what is best for iraq...or iran...or north korea? why is it that people in other countries aren't allowed to know what is going on in america, no matter how much they actually do know, but america and americans are keenly aware of the issues that other countries face? you know, because by your statement you seem to be saying that the u.s. knows what is going on and what needs to be done elsewhere.


    I would like to think freedom is a better choice then some brutal dictator but your right, maybe they dont want that. what do we know.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    I don't know why the War is the big issue in this election...
    ...
    The war has been the biggest issue since 2003.
    NOT Gays getting married.
    NOT Swift Boats and Bronze Stars.
    NOT Steroids in Baseball.
    NOT some dude burning an American Flag.
    It has... or it SHOULD HAVE been the big issue.
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  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I would like to think freedom is a better choice then some brutal dictator but your right, maybe they dont want that. what do we know.

    exactly, what do we know? and, how free are they now that they can't walk the streets at night for fear of an IED KILLING THEM!???
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    exactly, what do we know? and, how free are they now that they can't walk the streets at night for fear of an IED KILLING THEM!???


    it will take time to adjust to a free society. its now up to iraqis to stop killing each other.
  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    jlew24asu wrote:
    it will take time to adjust to a free society. its now up to iraqis to stop killing each other.

    like i said - if you don't want people acting like they know what's going on in the u.s. then don't sit there and pretend that you know what is going on in iraq, or any other country for that matter.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    like i said - if you don't want people acting like they know what's going on in the u.s. then don't sit there and pretend that you know what is going on in iraq, or any other country for that matter.


    I never did claim to know whats going on in another country. you have turned my specific comment to a specific person into some long discussion.

    I assumed freedom was better then having a dictator. im sure you assume I am way off in my thinking
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    SoonForgotten2 wrote:
    I have an honest question to ask anyone who supports the US led occupation of Iraq, especially thouse who do believe we need to "stay the course".

    Given that the situation has deteriorated so badly and that the US military is now stretched so thin, why would you not enlist your services? What speaks against your doing so if you support these actions and want to see "good" prevail?

    there are more people who have enlisted their services than soldiers in iraq. the machinists making gun; bomb; and missle parts for example. those that produce and package military rations. those making pc boards and other electronic components.
    who isn't doing something to support the war. just paying taxes supports the war.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    let's flip this...how does america know what is best for iraq...or iran...or north korea? why is it that people in other countries aren't allowed to know what is going on in america, no matter how much they actually do know, but america and americans are keenly aware of the issues that other countries face? you know, because by your statement you seem to be saying that the u.s. knows what is going on and what needs to be done elsewhere.

    let's see; spy satellites; drones; and things like that keep america abreast of what's going on. some countries don't allow citizens to posess guns so the people need outside help to attain freedom. as far as what's best; more people have willingly died for freedom than any other reason; thus it's safe to assume that most people prefer freedom.
  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I never did claim to know whats going on in another country. you have turned my specific comment to a specific person into some long discussion.

    I assumed freedom was better then having a dictator. im sure you assume I am way off in my thinking


    nope, you are just saying that other people don't know what is going on here while you claim to know what people want in other countries...you don't. you can merely assume.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    nope, you are just saying that other people don't know what is going on here while you claim to know what people want in other countries...you don't. you can merely assume.


    call me crazy that people want freedom as oppsed to a dictator
  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    onelongsong wrote:
    let's see; spy satellites; drones; and things like that keep america abreast of what's going on. some countries don't allow citizens to posess guns so the people need outside help to attain freedom. as far as what's best; more people have willingly died for freedom than any other reason; thus it's safe to assume that most people prefer freedom.

    i am talking about the average american...the american who sits here and tells me or whoever that this war in iraq is good because that's what the people in iraq want...you cannot simply say that they want freedom...you first have to define freedom...because, as we are keenly aware in this country, freedom means different things, vastly different things, to different people. so, what is it that YOU think people in other countries (say, iraq, for example) are striving for? is it the u.s.'s brand of capitalist driven freedom? fear driven freedom? what is it?
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