Obama actually listens to this racist guy?

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  • brandon10
    brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Frankly, I'm curious if there even exists an issue about Obama that wouldn't get the same 'who cares' reply.

    ****and as I've already stated, I don't think this issue is an important one. I only think it would indeed be pretty big for many of you if the names were switched with McCain or Hillary. I think it would be a big 'I care' issue then.


    Not if I thought highly of the pastor. That's where this has been spun, and you don't even realize or care. If anyone here really does some investigating you will see what a good man he is. I don't say that about a lot of religious folk, but he really is trying to help his community.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    brandon10 wrote:
    Not if I thought highly of the pastor. That's where this has been spun, and you don't even realize or care. If anyone here really does some investigating you will see what a good man he is. I don't say that about a lot of religious folk, but he really is trying to help his community.

    The issue was whether Wright influenced Obama pertaining to the remarks in question, which is very conceivable.

    And I'm sorry, but after the posts I've read on here, I find it hard to believe most of you would be giving Hillary a free pass on this kinda thing if it were her.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • brandon10
    brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    The issue was whether Wright influenced Obama pertaining to the remarks in question, which is very conceivable.

    And I'm sorry, but after the posts I've read on here, I find it hard to believe most of you would be giving Hillary a free pass on this kinda thing if it were her.

    I hope he did influence Obama with those sermons!!! Maybe that's why Barack wants to get the fuck out of Iraq????

    And I have not posted anything about Hillary and her lying scandal because I don't care. I care about issues. And McBush and the republicans are what scare me most. Should Mccain have some stupid scandal, I'll leave that alone as well. It couldn't be as bad as his positions on world issues.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Obama's pastor doesn't bother me. It's not like Obama is going to make an anti white reality on planet earth. Not going to happen, and his world views, and take on religion, is bang on the money.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    brandon10 wrote:
    I hope he did influence Obama with those sermons!!! Maybe that's why Barack wants to get the fuck out of Iraq????

    I hope that he didn't take the perspective of whites out to get blacks from Wright, then. I don't share your optimism that Obama is going to get us out of Iraq. One of his advisors was quoted as saying the '16 months after taking office estimate' given by him is a 'best case scenario'. It all depends on which crowd he's talking to most of the time. I don't see any consistancy.

    brandon10 wrote:
    And I have not posted anything about Hillary and her lying scandal because I don't care. I care about issues. And McBush and the republicans are what scare me most. Should Mccain have some stupid scandal, I'll leave that alone as well. It couldn't be as bad as his positions on world issues.

    Then that point doesn't apply to you, in the least. I prefer to stick with the issues, too.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • brandon10
    brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Obama's pastor doesn't bother me. It's not like Obama is going to make an anti white reality on planet earth. Not going to happen, and his world views, and take on religion, is bang on the money.


    Nice to see that someone who doesn't care for Obama can see things as they are and admit it.
  • DixieN
    DixieN Posts: 351
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    The issue was whether Wright influenced Obama pertaining to the remarks in question, which is very conceivable.

    And I'm sorry, but after the posts I've read on here, I find it hard to believe most of you would be giving Hillary a free pass on this kinda thing if it were her.

    Hillary would not get a free pass on this. A reversed situation with Clinton's minister saying comparable things would ensure a firestorm or such proportions, she would never have been able to consider running for dog catcher, no less president.

    How does this not matter? Obama doesn't say this objectionable stuff himself, but he gives $27,000+ *this year* to a church that does. It matters. You vote with your money. You talk with it, like it or not. Every time you buy clothes made by a sweatshop or a rug made by child laborers you are perpetuating sweatshops and childhood slavery. It doesn't matter that you're not personally the enslaver; you're paying someone else to do that for you so you can have something you want. I don't care if that something you want is a tangible or an intangible. In the end, you are financing and perpetuating a practice no matter how far removed from it you like to think you are. So long as you are providing a market for the ideas or practices, you are complicit. And it does matter.
  • DixieN
    DixieN Posts: 351
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I hope that he didn't take the perspective of whites out to get blacks from Wright, then. I don't share your optimism that Obama is going to get us out of Iraq. One of his advisors was quoted as saying the '16 months after taking office estimate' given by him is a 'best case scenario'. It all depends on which crowd he's talking to most of the time. I don't see any consistancy.




    Then that point doesn't apply to you, in the least. I prefer to stick with the issues, too.

    To be honest, I don't really see anyone getting us out of Iraq anytime soon. It really is a quagmire over there. We can't really leave until the place doesn't just collapse under its own weight. And when will that be? Not anytime soon. As much as I would prefer not to see McCain in office, he may be the only presidential contender who is actually being realistic or openly honest about Iraq. I think that both Clinton and Obama are playing politics/selling us a story we like about leaving Iraq. We may in fact *have* to have some type of military presence in Iraq for the next 100 years, even as the majority of troops are withdrawn. So, in fact, I don't really see us as "leaving" Iraq. We're not going to do that because it's against our national interests to abandon Iraq. But, hopefully, we'll be able to bring a good portion of our troops home within a reasonable time frame. Again, though, I'm not sure what "reasonable time frame" actually means since I feel that I don't really have a good grasp on the depth of the problems we face over there.
  • stupidcorporatewhore
    stupidcorporatewhore Posts: 761
    I eagerly await your thread about Obamas middle name.

    douche.

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