Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Look up up for yourself instead of pretending to know something you obviously don't.
I get the idea a rational discussion with you is an impossibility in this universe short of 15 years of much needed life experience.
spoketh the voice of age and wisdom.
there's not a single irrational thing i've said. if there is, please tell me what it was.
i think the trouble here is that you guys have been SO vocal about your support of ron paul that now you're embarrassed and unable to find your footing. it's okay to admit that you screwed up, you got it wrong, you've been an ass. we're all family here. go ahead, it'll be cathartic.
"Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
i call a guy on his crazy newsletter... and now i am a frail mind. your the folks buying his weak ass excuse... he was pathetic explaining it on CNN... you could see right through him... " i love the blacks!"... hahahahahahaha
it is HIS newsletter published under his name. they are real documents... you act as if Rupert Murdoch created this out of thin air?
i wasnt voting for him anyway... i am not a fan of libertarian domestic policy
there's not a single irrational thing i've said. if there is, please tell me what it was.
i think the trouble here is that you guys have been SO vocal about your support of ron paul that now you're embarrassed and unable to find your footing. it's okay to admit that you screwed up, you got it wrong, you've been an ass. we're all family here. go ahead, it'll be cathartic.
speaking of who's being an ass...
I have a better question.. What do you hate about him specifically outside of his supposed cultural/racist beliefs.
Strictly the logistics of his campaign.
I'd be curious to know.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
i call a guy on his crazy newsletter... and now i am a frail mind. your the folks buying his weak ass excuse... he was pathetic explaining it on CNN... you could see right through him... " i love the blacks!"... hahahahahahaha
it is HIS newsletter published under his name. they are real documents... you act as if Rupert Murdoch created this out of thin air?
i wasnt voting for him anyway... i am not a fan of libertarian domestic policy
Don't ever ask me for advice via PM again.
I thought you we're a level headed guy.
my mistake.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
there's not a single irrational thing i've said. if there is, please tell me what it was.
i think the trouble here is that you guys have been SO vocal about your support of ron paul that now you're embarrassed and unable to find your footing. it's okay to admit that you screwed up, you got it wrong, you've been an ass. we're all family here. go ahead, it'll be cathartic.
FYI, sweetsie.
Most of us paul supporters KNEW OF THIS STORY GOING IN TO IT!
:rolleyes:
It was well above the consciousness of most of us who dug deep in to him before signing on. It is just the general public that is getting to hear about it again for the first time.
I weighed all this out, examined his record, and his speeches, and determined that it was a non issue ... for ME.
I believe him to be innocent of harboring any racist sentiment, and i think his record and speeches siting MLK show this to be true.
You can say we should own up and accept the title of "ass", but i knew this from jump, and it has not phased me one bit.
In FACT, MOST supporters over on the board were just WAITING for this bullshit to start flying. it is the ONLY thing they have on him and they are flinging the shit despereately!
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
i disagree with his libertarian domestic stances... and some of the foreign libertarian stances
i think we need to collectively progress...
That's about as vague as it gets.
You seem to have a strong opion that the guy is the anti-christ.
Any particulars, and why the cons outweigh the pros?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
the true colors of ron pauls supporters are coming out...
challenge him and call him on actual documents with his name on them and you are an idiot...
he is the fucking idiot for publishing that shit... so dont jump on my ass good friend for calling it how i see it... it isnt my fault
the funny thing is i have respected his grass roots campaign from the beginning... i felt he was the best option in the republican party... but his supporters complete blind faith in this dude and refusal to accept the truth about these journals is just crazy to me...
I ASK AGAIN>>> WHAT WOULD ALL OF YOU RP SUPPORTERS BE SAYING IF THESE NEWSLETTERS WERE BUSH'S OR ROMNEY'S, OR HUCKABEE'S?
YOU WOULD BE RIPPING THEM A NEW ASS... JUST AS I WOULD...
FYI, sweetsie. Most of us paul supporters KNEW OF THIS STORY GOING IN TO IT!
:rolleyes:
It was well above the consciousness of most of us who dug deep in to him before signing on. It is just the general public that is getting to hear about it again for the first time.
I weighed all this out, examined his record, and his speeches, and determined that it was a non issue ... for ME.
I believe him to be innocent of harboring any racist sentiment, and i think his record and speeches siting MLK show this to be true.
You can say we should own up and accept the title of "ass", but i knew this from jump, and it has not phased me one bit.
In FACT, MOST supporters over on the board were just WAITING for this bullshit to start flying. it is the ONLY thing they have on him and they are flinging the shit despereately!
and somehow this is more disturbing than if the story was new to you.
btw, the word "ass" is tame, don't get your shorts in a knot over it. you know what i meant. i realize it's hard to admit that you may have made a mistake, especially when you've done it with such gusto. that's all i meant.
"Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
the true colors of ron pauls supporters are coming out...
challenge him and call him on actual documents with his name on them and you are an idiot...
he is the fucking idiot for publishing that shit... so dont jump on my ass good friend for calling it how i see it... it isnt my fault
the funny thing is i have respected his grass roots campaign from the beginning... i felt he was the best option in the republican party... but his supporters complete blind faith in this dude and refusal to accept the truth about these journals is just crazy to me...
I ASK AGAIN>>> WHAT WOULD ALL OF YOU RP SUPPORTERS BE SAYING IF THESE NEWSLETTERS WERE BUSH'S OR ROMNEY'S, OR HUCKABEE'S?
YOU WOULD BE RIPPING THEM A NEW ASS... JUST AS I WOULD...
see my above post.
No one is goin in to this "blind".
This was above board.
IT WAS AVAILABLE TO REVIEW PRIOR TO THIS HUGE MEDIA SMEAR ATTEMPT.
We see this for what it is, an attempt to SMEAR an honorable man with good intentions for our country by derrailing him on the ONE blemish his record holds ... a blemish which the man (who has been honest in EVERYTHING he has ever said publicly) denies to be his own words.
Not blind faith.
Accepted, acknowledged, and summarily dismissed.
The good FAR outweighs the bad.
Show me one other candidate up there with ANY good to their name, and i'll consider switching votes, because i have to admit, this whole 20yr old racist news is REALLY eating me alive. Oh the guilt.
:rolleyes:
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
and somehow this is more disturbing than if the story was new to you.
btw, the word "ass" is tame, don't get your shorts in a knot over it. you know what i meant. i realize it's hard to admit that you may have made a mistake, especially when you've done it with such gusto. that's all i meant.
:rolleyes:
you can't see the forest for the trees.
This is one accusation against his personal character, which the man denies. His actions deny it, his speech denies it, and his aims for our country deny it.
his intentions for restoring liberty and constitutional law to our land, to me, TRUMP that charge.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
dude... what the hell are you getting all defensive and personal for?
relax man... we tend to be on the same side...
You're missing the commonsense approach, and the big picture. It's a bit frustrating.
Do you understand what the guy is trying to accomplish for you?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
... a blemish which the man (who has been honest in EVERYTHING he has ever said publicly) denies to be his own words.
How is it being honest if he is denying it now, but justifying it in 1996? Was he lying then or now?
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
answer my question, then i'll answer yours. where have i been "irrational"?
You're being irrational because you're zooming in on specific details and holding them up like the universe itself, when you need to be looking at it all from a wider angle.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
So no one has ever answered my question, did Paul never actually read his own newsletter?
Surely his life can't be that busy.
And if he did read his own newsletter, why wasn't just a one time thing and not a series of newsletters that sometimes contained questionable content.
Like I said earlier if he actually read his newsletter and saw the first questionable article, why didn't he put a stop to it. And if there was a second questionable article, why didn't he just pull his name from it.
I'm just asking if any of you had a newsletter with your name on it that was sponsored by you, wouldn't you at least take the time to read it?
I ASK AGAIN>>> WHAT WOULD ALL OF YOU RP SUPPORTERS BE SAYING IF THESE NEWSLETTERS WERE BUSH'S OR ROMNEY'S, OR HUCKABEE'S?
YOU WOULD BE RIPPING THEM A NEW ASS... JUST AS I WOULD...
If they had Dr Paul's message??? what am I missing here? Even if it was proven beyond a doubt that he typed the words himself, I'd overlook it all in favor of the bigger picture of what he/they are actually trying to accomplish.
I'd also look at their track record as a huge indicator.
Weigh it out, and see what matters most. A couple of paragraphs of misguided text from some newsletter or the entire message itself.
hmm
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
How is it being honest if he is denying it now, but justifying it in 1996? Was he lying then or now?
My guess is he was protecting a friends life then, when the fire was raging, and telling the truth now.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
In FACT, MOST supporters over on the board were just WAITING for this bullshit to start flying. it is the ONLY thing they have on him and they are flinging the shit despereately!
Yep. i think you're right. i've reassessed the situation and determined this is nothing more than a "desparate" last ditch effort to slow down Ron Paul who was obviously running away with the election up to this point. i mean, wtf, he pretty much had the nomination all locked up until this blatant nonsense. Poor guy.
sheesh
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
If you work at a restaurant (or anywhere for that matter) full time as the head cook (or manager etc), and you decide to go back to school full time, and someone burns the fries (fucks up a few times etc) while you're busy writing exams or attending classes, does that mean it's your fault, and never fit to work again?
There's only 24 hours in a day. How much free time do you think a full time doctor has?
I'm an exceptional judge of character, and I can say with full confidence Ron Paul does not have a mean bone in his body.
hey Roland, some times i disagree with you and sometimes a agree with you but i can't agree with what you just wrote. to begin with, your first point about burning fries is just plain dumb. there is a little difference between someone burning fries with a job because you are not there anymore and having a person writing racist comments that have you name on teh newsletter. do you see the difference, with your name on the newsletter you own that newsletter, if you were busy then take your name off the newsletter. while unless you are the owner of that store (or whatever) it is not your job to care abotu teh person working the fries section.
Secondly, who has stated that he should never work again. soem are just saying that maybe he should not be president.
Finally, how can you say that RP does not have a mean bone is his body, have you spent all your time with him, i understand that you like him but don't make it out to be a saint.
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Finally, how can you say that RP does not have a mean bone is his body, have you spent all your time with him, i understand that you like him but don't make it out to be a saint.
That annoys me with the Paul supporters. I do think Ron Paul is a decent guy, and even with these comments, I tend to believe that he may not be a racist, but just made some stereotypical comments. I like this thread/debate because it seems to fall into a "cover-up is greater than the crime" situation.
I think he has admirable ideas for government and all that stuff, but the extreme supporters of his make him out to be some sort of god, and that probably turns more people away from him then supporters attract.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
hey Roland, some times i disagree with you and sometimes a agree with you but i can't agree with what you just wrote. to begin with, your first point about burning fries is just plain dumb. there is a little difference between someone burning fries with a job because you are not there anymore and having a person writing racist comments that have you name on teh newsletter. do you see the difference, with your name on the newsletter you own that newsletter, if you were busy then take your name off the newsletter. while unless you are the owner of that store (or whatever) it is not your job to care abotu teh person working the fries section.
Secondly, who has stated that he should never work again. soem are just saying that maybe he should not be president.
Finally, how can you say that RP does not have a mean bone is his body, have you spent all your time with him, i understand that you like him but don't make it out to be a saint.
You have to think around the issue a bit, I wasn't going to spend a lot of time making up some ultra precise analogy. The gist of it is there.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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The seeds of propaganda consume frail minds.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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okeydokey. :rolleyes: you got me. i said that paul supporters are geeks. shame on me.
good thing i'm not running for president, huh?
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
I definitely can't argue with that.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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there's not a single irrational thing i've said. if there is, please tell me what it was.
i think the trouble here is that you guys have been SO vocal about your support of ron paul that now you're embarrassed and unable to find your footing. it's okay to admit that you screwed up, you got it wrong, you've been an ass. we're all family here. go ahead, it'll be cathartic.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
hahahahahahahahahahahaha...
i call a guy on his crazy newsletter... and now i am a frail mind. your the folks buying his weak ass excuse... he was pathetic explaining it on CNN... you could see right through him... " i love the blacks!"... hahahahahahaha
it is HIS newsletter published under his name. they are real documents... you act as if Rupert Murdoch created this out of thin air?
i wasnt voting for him anyway... i am not a fan of libertarian domestic policy
speaking of who's being an ass...
I have a better question.. What do you hate about him specifically outside of his supposed cultural/racist beliefs.
Strictly the logistics of his campaign.
I'd be curious to know.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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we are just calling your boy out on his newsletter...
why use insults? we are not attacking you... we just know Ron Paul is full of shit, and for some reason you dont want to see it...
relax, i wasnt voting for him anyway.
Don't ever ask me for advice via PM again.
I thought you we're a level headed guy.
my mistake.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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FYI, sweetsie.
Most of us paul supporters KNEW OF THIS STORY GOING IN TO IT!
:rolleyes:
It was well above the consciousness of most of us who dug deep in to him before signing on. It is just the general public that is getting to hear about it again for the first time.
I weighed all this out, examined his record, and his speeches, and determined that it was a non issue ... for ME.
I believe him to be innocent of harboring any racist sentiment, and i think his record and speeches siting MLK show this to be true.
You can say we should own up and accept the title of "ass", but i knew this from jump, and it has not phased me one bit.
In FACT, MOST supporters over on the board were just WAITING for this bullshit to start flying. it is the ONLY thing they have on him and they are flinging the shit despereately!
If I opened it now would you not understand?
i disagree with his libertarian domestic stances... and some of the foreign libertarian stances
i think we need to collectively progress...
dude... what the hell are you getting all defensive and personal for?
relax man... we tend to be on the same side...
You like welfare\warfare statism and think we should push forward with it?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
That's about as vague as it gets.
You seem to have a strong opion that the guy is the anti-christ.
Any particulars, and why the cons outweigh the pros?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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answer my question, then i'll answer yours. where have i been "irrational"?
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
challenge him and call him on actual documents with his name on them and you are an idiot...
he is the fucking idiot for publishing that shit... so dont jump on my ass good friend for calling it how i see it... it isnt my fault
the funny thing is i have respected his grass roots campaign from the beginning... i felt he was the best option in the republican party... but his supporters complete blind faith in this dude and refusal to accept the truth about these journals is just crazy to me...
I ASK AGAIN>>> WHAT WOULD ALL OF YOU RP SUPPORTERS BE SAYING IF THESE NEWSLETTERS WERE BUSH'S OR ROMNEY'S, OR HUCKABEE'S?
YOU WOULD BE RIPPING THEM A NEW ASS... JUST AS I WOULD...
and somehow this is more disturbing than if the story was new to you.
btw, the word "ass" is tame, don't get your shorts in a knot over it. you know what i meant. i realize it's hard to admit that you may have made a mistake, especially when you've done it with such gusto. that's all i meant.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
see my above post.
No one is goin in to this "blind".
This was above board.
IT WAS AVAILABLE TO REVIEW PRIOR TO THIS HUGE MEDIA SMEAR ATTEMPT.
We see this for what it is, an attempt to SMEAR an honorable man with good intentions for our country by derrailing him on the ONE blemish his record holds ... a blemish which the man (who has been honest in EVERYTHING he has ever said publicly) denies to be his own words.
Not blind faith.
Accepted, acknowledged, and summarily dismissed.
The good FAR outweighs the bad.
Show me one other candidate up there with ANY good to their name, and i'll consider switching votes, because i have to admit, this whole 20yr old racist news is REALLY eating me alive. Oh the guilt.
:rolleyes:
If I opened it now would you not understand?
:rolleyes:
you can't see the forest for the trees.
This is one accusation against his personal character, which the man denies. His actions deny it, his speech denies it, and his aims for our country deny it.
his intentions for restoring liberty and constitutional law to our land, to me, TRUMP that charge.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
You're missing the commonsense approach, and the big picture. It's a bit frustrating.
Do you understand what the guy is trying to accomplish for you?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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How is it being honest if he is denying it now, but justifying it in 1996? Was he lying then or now?
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
You're being irrational because you're zooming in on specific details and holding them up like the universe itself, when you need to be looking at it all from a wider angle.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Surely his life can't be that busy.
And if he did read his own newsletter, why wasn't just a one time thing and not a series of newsletters that sometimes contained questionable content.
Like I said earlier if he actually read his newsletter and saw the first questionable article, why didn't he put a stop to it. And if there was a second questionable article, why didn't he just pull his name from it.
I'm just asking if any of you had a newsletter with your name on it that was sponsored by you, wouldn't you at least take the time to read it?
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
If they had Dr Paul's message??? what am I missing here? Even if it was proven beyond a doubt that he typed the words himself, I'd overlook it all in favor of the bigger picture of what he/they are actually trying to accomplish.
I'd also look at their track record as a huge indicator.
Weigh it out, and see what matters most. A couple of paragraphs of misguided text from some newsletter or the entire message itself.
hmm
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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My guess is he was protecting a friends life then, when the fire was raging, and telling the truth now.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Yep. i think you're right. i've reassessed the situation and determined this is nothing more than a "desparate" last ditch effort to slow down Ron Paul who was obviously running away with the election up to this point. i mean, wtf, he pretty much had the nomination all locked up until this blatant nonsense. Poor guy.
sheesh
hey Roland, some times i disagree with you and sometimes a agree with you but i can't agree with what you just wrote. to begin with, your first point about burning fries is just plain dumb. there is a little difference between someone burning fries with a job because you are not there anymore and having a person writing racist comments that have you name on teh newsletter. do you see the difference, with your name on the newsletter you own that newsletter, if you were busy then take your name off the newsletter. while unless you are the owner of that store (or whatever) it is not your job to care abotu teh person working the fries section.
Secondly, who has stated that he should never work again. soem are just saying that maybe he should not be president.
Finally, how can you say that RP does not have a mean bone is his body, have you spent all your time with him, i understand that you like him but don't make it out to be a saint.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6rxts0-f9w
part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82CYNV0U_kg
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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That annoys me with the Paul supporters. I do think Ron Paul is a decent guy, and even with these comments, I tend to believe that he may not be a racist, but just made some stereotypical comments. I like this thread/debate because it seems to fall into a "cover-up is greater than the crime" situation.
I think he has admirable ideas for government and all that stuff, but the extreme supporters of his make him out to be some sort of god, and that probably turns more people away from him then supporters attract.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
You have to think around the issue a bit, I wasn't going to spend a lot of time making up some ultra precise analogy. The gist of it is there.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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