Ron Paul '90s newsletters rant against blacks, gays
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There is no defending this.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/10/paul.newsletters/index.html
From Brian Todd
CNN
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A series of newsletters in the name of GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul contain several racist remarks -- including one that says order was restored to Los Angeles after the 1992 riots when blacks went "to pick up their welfare checks."
This is a copy of one of the "Ron Paul Political Report" newsletters, which has stirred controversy.
1 of 2 CNN recently obtained the newsletters -- written in the 1990s and one from the late 1980s -- after a report was published about their existence in the New Republic.
None of the newsletters CNN found says who wrote them, but each was published under Paul's name between his stints as a U.S. congressman from Texas.
Paul spokesman Jesse Benton told CNN the material was not written by Paul, and that he finds them "abhorrent." CNN asked the presidential contender for a direct response. He is to appear on CNN's "The Situation Room" Thursday afternoon around 5 p.m. ET.
"I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name," Paul said in a written statement.
That's not good enough, says one political veteran.
"These stories may be very old in Ron Paul's life, but they're very new to the American public and they deserve to be totally ventilated," said David Gergen, a CNN senior political analyst. "I must say I don't think there's an excuse in politics to have something go out under your name and say, 'Oh by the way, I didn't write that.'"
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The controversial newsletters include rants against the Israeli lobby, gays, AIDS victims and Martin Luther King Jr. -- described as a "pro-Communist philanderer." One newsletter, from June 1992, right after the LA riots, says "order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks."
Another says, "The criminals who terrorize our cities -- in riots and on every non-riot day -- are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are. As children, they are trained to hate whites, to believe that white oppression is responsible for all black ills, to 'fight the power,' to steal and loot as much money from the white enemy as possible."
In some excerpts, the reader may be led to believe the words are indeed from Paul, a resident of Lake Jackson, Texas. In the "Ron Paul Political Report" from October 1992, the writer describes carjacking as the "hip-hop thing to do among the urban youth who play unsuspecting whites like pianos."
The author then offers advice from others on how to avoid being carjacked, including "an ex-cop I know," and says, "I frankly don't know what to make of such advice, but even in my little town of Lake Jackson, Texas, I've urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense. For the animals are coming."
Benton says Paul never wrote those words and is "saddened" somebody took advantage of him.
Matt Welch, the editor-in-chief of "Reason" magazine who shares some of Paul's beliefs on big government, says he has never heard the congressman make such comments.
"What I think some people are looking for him to do is to say, 'OK, who wrote that?' I mean, there's 20 years, give or take, worth of newsletters there," Welch said.
Benton maintains that the GOP presidential candidate doesn't know who wrote any of the newsletters. Asked if Paul would try to find out, his spokesman said, "No, what's the point? ... It's time to move on.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/10/paul.newsletters/index.html
From Brian Todd
CNN
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A series of newsletters in the name of GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul contain several racist remarks -- including one that says order was restored to Los Angeles after the 1992 riots when blacks went "to pick up their welfare checks."
This is a copy of one of the "Ron Paul Political Report" newsletters, which has stirred controversy.
1 of 2 CNN recently obtained the newsletters -- written in the 1990s and one from the late 1980s -- after a report was published about their existence in the New Republic.
None of the newsletters CNN found says who wrote them, but each was published under Paul's name between his stints as a U.S. congressman from Texas.
Paul spokesman Jesse Benton told CNN the material was not written by Paul, and that he finds them "abhorrent." CNN asked the presidential contender for a direct response. He is to appear on CNN's "The Situation Room" Thursday afternoon around 5 p.m. ET.
"I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name," Paul said in a written statement.
That's not good enough, says one political veteran.
"These stories may be very old in Ron Paul's life, but they're very new to the American public and they deserve to be totally ventilated," said David Gergen, a CNN senior political analyst. "I must say I don't think there's an excuse in politics to have something go out under your name and say, 'Oh by the way, I didn't write that.'"
Paul, who is not considered a front-runner, has become an Internet phenomenon in the current race, raising tens of millions of dollars from a devoted online base, many of them young people drawn to his libertarian straight talk. See where the money is coming from »
The controversial newsletters include rants against the Israeli lobby, gays, AIDS victims and Martin Luther King Jr. -- described as a "pro-Communist philanderer." One newsletter, from June 1992, right after the LA riots, says "order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks."
Another says, "The criminals who terrorize our cities -- in riots and on every non-riot day -- are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are. As children, they are trained to hate whites, to believe that white oppression is responsible for all black ills, to 'fight the power,' to steal and loot as much money from the white enemy as possible."
In some excerpts, the reader may be led to believe the words are indeed from Paul, a resident of Lake Jackson, Texas. In the "Ron Paul Political Report" from October 1992, the writer describes carjacking as the "hip-hop thing to do among the urban youth who play unsuspecting whites like pianos."
The author then offers advice from others on how to avoid being carjacked, including "an ex-cop I know," and says, "I frankly don't know what to make of such advice, but even in my little town of Lake Jackson, Texas, I've urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense. For the animals are coming."
Benton says Paul never wrote those words and is "saddened" somebody took advantage of him.
Matt Welch, the editor-in-chief of "Reason" magazine who shares some of Paul's beliefs on big government, says he has never heard the congressman make such comments.
"What I think some people are looking for him to do is to say, 'OK, who wrote that?' I mean, there's 20 years, give or take, worth of newsletters there," Welch said.
Benton maintains that the GOP presidential candidate doesn't know who wrote any of the newsletters. Asked if Paul would try to find out, his spokesman said, "No, what's the point? ... It's time to move on.
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
So what you are saying is that when word of this leaks, he’ll easily be the front-runner of all the candidates? Fuckin’ hillbilly country that we live in.
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"None of the newsletters CNN found says who wrote them, but each was published under Paul's name between his stints as a U.S. congressman from Texas."
I guess it depends if you think a few articles written by some volunteer in this particular newsletter during his campaigning is in fact the very manifesto of Ron Paul's being, and can be equally considered his personal private thoughts diary.
I suppose if one likes to stretch the imagination into that contortion and run with it.
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http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/125/ron-paul-statement-on-the-new-republic-article-regarding-old-newsletters
"January 8, 2008 5:28 am EST
ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – In response to an article published by The New Republic, Ron Paul issued the following statement:
“The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed. I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts.
“In fact, I have always agreed with Martin Luther King, Jr. that we should only be concerned with the content of a person's character, not the color of their skin. As I stated on the floor of the U.S. House on April 20, 1999: ‘I rise in great respect for the courage and high ideals of Rosa Parks who stood steadfastly for the rights of individuals against unjust laws and oppressive governmental policies.’
“This story is old news and has been rehashed for over a decade. It's once again being resurrected for obvious political reasons on the day of the New Hampshire primary.
“When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.”
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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So what else is new with RP?
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and honestly... the supporters explaining this away or ignoring it are just being silly
"i own a newsletter, my name is on the newsletter, but i have no idea what was written in it?"
hahahahahahahaha...
i got a fucking bridge to sell ya :rolleyes:
You're making something out of nothing.
“When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.”
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this is nothing?
wow
dude... he published a newsletter that was around for quite some time... you have read what was in it... you really believe he had no idea what was being printed under his name? that is just flat out ridiculous for him to claim that? this was some pretty strong stuff... you dont think he saw this? or someone else saw this and told him? come on man...
i love when wolf blitzer asks him "sir, did you EVER read YOUR newsletter?"... Ron paul stutters for a minute and blurts out some bs...
he is straight up caught with his hands in the cookie jar from what i can see... there is no explantion good enough... especially not "i had no idea what was being printed under my name in MY newsletter"
what a joke
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Guilt by association or what???
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What part of "When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time" is eluding your comprehension?
It's crap. You're eating crap and loving it for some bizarre reason.
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what does being out of congress and having a job have to do with the things written in the newsletter? does that make him illiterate? this stuff was printed in that periodical quite consistently... its not liek it is one article tucked in the back of issue #27... this type of stuff was being written consistently... and having a job is maybe the worst excuse i think i have ever heard...
i work, and i still read? especially something printed under my name :rolleyes:
i have lost all respect for the man...
and i am not being conned or duped... i just dont buy his explanation for one second... not even 1/2 of a second...
http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=1996_1343749
From an Austin Chronicle in 96:
http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/vol16/issue9/pols.paul.html
So in the late 90s his response was that his "academic, tongue-in-cheek opinions have been stripped of their context", and he refused to release the full letter for context. A campaign spokesman even verified that Paul was still writing them, and said they "mirror pronouncements by black leaders such as the Rev. Jesse Jackson".
So which is it? Did he write them or not?
If you work at a restaurant (or anywhere for that matter) full time as the head cook (or manager etc), and you decide to go back to school full time, and someone burns the fries (fucks up a few times etc) while you're busy writing exams or attending classes, does that mean it's your fault, and never fit to work again?
There's only 24 hours in a day. How much free time do you think a full time doctor has?
I'm an exceptional judge of character, and I can say with full confidence Ron Paul does not have a mean bone in his body.
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He wasn't in congress at the time. We was back to practicing medicine full time. He didn't write any of it.
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Notwithstanding whatever the truth may be, is a racist doctor preferred over a racist congressman?
Moot question, the author is neither.
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Ron Paul (1996) said that people took his letter out of context.
You calling Ron Paul a liar?
Can you give a specific? That context of that question has no denominator.
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The last post of mine that you responded to had the details.
It looks like more of the same newsletter propagana story.
Are you saying he's now supporting what is written even though he condemns it and never wrote it?
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he acts like he had NOTHING to do with HIS NEWSLETTER...
what the fuck does he have a newsletter in his name for then?
No, I'm saying that in 1996 he claimed that people were taking his letter out of context and never denied writing them until after 2001.
If you want to call someone both a racist and a liar without any substantiated proof...that's your prerogative.
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How much review do you think any of the five (ahem, six) members of Pearl Jam before "Deep" goes out twice a year?
Seriously.
[half expecting Sea to show up and pwne me with inside information.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
oh, there is plenty pf proof...
some of you guys just refuse to ackowledge it... but, that's your prerogative