I am Justified

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    angelica wrote:
    I allow life to arise through me. I open myself to the unique variation of the moment and my perceptions as they move through me. That's what releasing the ego and aligning with universality is about. I'm open to being and to potential and the continua. Therefore I'm not preconceiving, but rather am perceiving.

    It sounds like rubbish to me though. Why should I value your opinion if you've acquired your knowledge in such a way, that it cannot be validated or refuted?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Ahnimus wrote:
    It sounds like rubbish to me though. Why should I value your opinion if you've acquired your knowledge in such a way, that it cannot be validated or refuted?
    I don't ask you to value my opinion. I ask that you accept it as my perspective and as a symbol of accepting who I am, which is all I can be.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Ahnimus wrote:
    It sounds like rubbish to me though. Why should I value your opinion if you've acquired your knowledge in such a way, that it cannot be validated or refuted?
    Besides, it absolutely can be validated, as millions have done, through subjective practise and experience.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    angelica wrote:
    Besides, it absolutely can be validated, as millions have done, through subjective practise and experience.

    But is it congruent with the view from nowhere?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    angelica wrote:
    I don't ask you to value my opinion. I ask that you accept it as my perspective and as a symbol of accepting who I am, which is all I can be.

    Fair enough. But I doubt we will ever see eye-to-eye.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Ironically Angelica. With our drastically opposed views. I think you are the only one that actually understood my point on this discussion. At least I hope you did. It seems everyone else was preoccupied by thoughts of the criminal justice system.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    I thought this thread was going to be Ahnimus telling us all that he's really Justin Timberlake, and that he's a Pearl Jam fan.
    Do you remember Rock & Roll Radio?
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Ironically Angelica. With our drastically opposed views. I think you are the only one that actually understood my point on this discussion. At least I hope you did. It seems everyone else was preoccupied by thoughts of the criminal justice system.

    not me.


    your original post merely pointed out the immaturity of the developing mind.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    catefrances wrote:
    not me.


    your original post merely pointed out the immaturity of the developing mind.

    How so?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Ahnimus wrote:
    How so?


    well ryan neither you or your brother had the faculties to deal with the siituation without antagonising each other. had either of you had any objectivity, one of you would have removed themself from the room. the situation was allowed to degenerate into a power struggle.
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  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    catefrances wrote:
    well ryan neither you or your brother had the faculties to deal with the siituation without antagonising each other. had either of you had any objectivity, one of you would have removed themself from the room. the situation was allowed to degenerate into a power struggle.

    You didn't think it was about Justin Timberlake?
    Do you remember Rock & Roll Radio?
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    fanch75 wrote:
    You didn't think it was about Justin Timberlake?

    no fanch i didn't. when i saw the title i just figured it was about ahnimus justifying his arrogant attitude somewhere else on the board.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Ahnimus wrote:
    But is it congruent with the view from nowhere?
    Universal principles are always congruent with...the universe...and Truth.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Ironically Angelica. With our drastically opposed views. I think you are the only one that actually understood my point on this discussion. At least I hope you did. It seems everyone else was preoccupied by thoughts of the criminal justice system.
    I do think I understand what you are saying.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Fair enough. But I doubt we will ever see eye-to-eye.
    We touch base with the similarities of our visions quite often. We would not continually gravitate into seemingly endless conversations/debates were it not for our similarities. Like attracts like.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    catefrances wrote:
    well ryan neither you or your brother had the faculties to deal with the siituation without antagonising each other. had either of you had any objectivity, one of you would have removed themself from the room. the situation was allowed to degenerate into a power struggle.

    Fair enough, but that was sort of beside my point. That exactly we felt justified in our positions. Certainly there are reasons why we felt justified, but shouldn't have. But the point was, that had we not felt justified, we wouldn't have behaved as we did.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    catefrances wrote:
    no fanch i didn't. when i saw the title i just figured it was about ahnimus justifying his arrogant attitude somewhere else on the board.

    I suppose that assumption is typical? And I suppose you still think that's what this is about?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    angelica wrote:
    Universal principles are always congruent with...the universe...and Truth.

    Give me an example
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    angelica wrote:
    I do think I understand what you are saying.

    You don't understand my point of the thread?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Fair enough, but that was sort of beside my point. That exactly we felt justified in our positions. Certainly there are reasons why we felt justified, but shouldn't have. But the point was, that had we not felt justified, we wouldn't have behaved as we did.

    how is it beside the poiint ryan. earlier i said just because one feels justified, that doesn't make it so. you dismissed that as being beside the point. and now here you are saying what? that immaturity is beside the point as well and that the fact that both of you felt justified is now enough because you both felt had reason?
    do you even know what it is you're trying to convey here?
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