Comparative Religion: Godmen

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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    angelica wrote:
    I agree. It is what it is.

    I've been saying all along how normal it all is. People think I'm describing some heaven with clouds and angels, etc.....but that's the straw man people want to attribute to this stuff in order to knock it down when they are not ready, or willing to proceed. It's all about perception. I've also said numerous times that the amount of people on the MT who have the equipment to perceive outside the bounds of "normal" and who regularly do are very proportionately large, compared to the "regular" population. Truly, though, perceiving truths that others do not is a gift. Unfortunately it also entails a curse aspect that many of us here have also and do also regularly experience. The reason I speak to people here is because there are a ton of people who are a level of perception away from self-actualized. Unfortunately, at that distance, things look awfully bleak--because we have no one to believe in anymore--we are the potential front-runners for society and the status quo leaders in society are at more "normal" levels of awareness. I fully accept people living how they see fit. However it's my purpose to put these possibilities out there.

    Nicely said.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    gue_barium wrote:
    Nicely said.
    Thanks.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    wikipedia.org wrote:
    Spinoza contended that "Deus sive Natura" ("God or Nature") was a being of infinitely many attributes, of which extension and thought were two. His account of the nature of reality, then, seems to treat the physical and mental worlds as one and the same. The body and the mind are both comprised of the universal substance, and no difference exists between them. This formulation is a historically significant panpsychist solution to the mind-body problem known as neutral monism. The consequences of Spinoza's system also envisage a God that does not rule over the universe by providence, but a God which itself is part of the deterministic system of which everything in nature is a part. Thus, God is the natural world and has no personality.

    Spinoza was a thoroughgoing determinist who held that absolutely everything that happens occurs through the operation of necessity. For him, even human behaviour is fully determined, with freedom being our capacity to know we are determined and to understand why we act as we do. So freedom is not the possibility to say "no" to what happens to us but the possibility to say "yes" and fully understand why things should necessarily happen that way. By forming more "adequate" ideas about what we do and our emotions or affections, we become the adequate cause of our effects (internal or external), which entails an increase in activity (versus passivity). This means that we become both more free and more like God, as Spinoza argues in the Scholium to Prop. 49, Part II. However, Spinoza also held that everything must necessarily happen the way that it does. Therefore, there is no free will.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Spinoza

    This is a very popular view amongst scientists.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Ahnimus wrote:
    This is a very popular view amongst scientists.

    Maybe eventually science will save the world. But, for now, we have what we were dealt.

    No hostility.
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  • catefrances
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    angelica wrote:
    Okay, here's Einstein's article, according to this site. Slight differences in wording make more sense in this version:

    GENERAL CONSIDERATION CONCERNING THE METHOD OF SCIENCE

    It has often been said, and certainly not without justification, that the man of science is a poor philosopher. Why, then, should it not be the right thing for the physicist to let the philosopher do the philosophizing?

    well no shit einstein. why would a scientist need to be a philosopher anyway?
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    gue_barium wrote:
    Maybe eventually science will save the world. But, for now, we have what we were dealt.

    No hostility.

    Hold the spades and chuck the rest.

    Life is like a game of cards, you are dealt a hand, and if you know the dynamics of the game, the choices are easy.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    catefrances wrote:
    well no shit einstein. why would a scientist need to be a philosopher anyway?
    LOL.

    somebody's got her some alcohol. :)
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  • gue_barium
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    Hold the spades and chuck the rest.

    Life is like a game of cards, you are dealt a hand, and if you know the dynamics of the game, the choices are easy.

    Then why are you and I a couple of working class whores?
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  • Ahnimus
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    Some theories can be falsified with a simple thought experiment.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    gue_barium wrote:
    Then why are you and I a couple of working class whores?

    Either because we are getting dealt shitty cards or we aren't good at the game.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Some theories can be falsified with a simple thought experiment.

    Do you ...

    what do you want to do with your life?
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  • gue_barium
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    Either because we are getting dealt shitty cards or we aren't good at the game.

    Shitty cards? negate that.

    Good at the game...yeah, we suck.
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  • catefrances
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    gue_barium wrote:
    LOL.

    somebody's got her some alcohol. :)

    i am stone cold sober, thank you very much gue. :D:D


    hmm perhaps thats the problem. :)
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    gue_barium wrote:
    Do you ...

    what do you want to do with your life?

    I just want to see what happens.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I just want to see what happens.

    Me too.

    I think this might play into our not being too good at the game. :)
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  • gue_barium
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    catefrances wrote:
    i am stone cold sober, thank you very much gue. :D:D


    hmm perhaps thats the problem. :)

    ok.

    i'm not.

    just slightly buzzed, though, nothing major.

    your post kind of blasted out there in the scheme of the mood of the things, like spray paint.
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  • Ahnimus
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    gue_barium wrote:
    Me too.

    I think this might play into our not being too good at the game. :)

    I've never been very motivated since I was a kid. At one time I had a lot of energy, but I spent too much time in padded and concrete rooms. I lost my will to live completely. When I surfaced, things looked a lot different. I still thing dancing is a ridiculous waste of time and energy. Just have sex already! Know what I mean?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    gue_barium wrote:
    what do you want to do with your life?
    Please tell me you are saying this like the guy in the Twisted Sister video! "Who are you? Where do you come from? Are you listening to me? What do you want to do with your life?:D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbLSFiqq3S0
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    angelica wrote:
    Please tell me you are saying this like the guy in the Twisted Sister video! "Who are you? Where do you come from? Are you listening to me? What do you want to do with your life?:D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbLSFiqq3S0

    Sure!

    Spittle included!
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    gue_barium wrote:
    Me too.

    I think this might play into our not being too good at the game. :)
    :D
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