The mysterious disappearing thread

JOEJOEJOE

miller8966 wrote:

Im just using my 1st amendement right to freedom of speech

there is such things as being responsible, sensible and sensative in your choice of speech.

Abookamongstthemany

miller8966 wrote:

Im just using my 1st amendement right to freedom of speech

Just as others are using theirs to express their opinion of your opinion.

VictoryGin

miller8966 wrote:

yea i think your right...i just left my cubicle and was a little anxious and perturbed.

I guess mohammed wasnt a bad guy...but the people who follow him are jerkoffs.

You must leave your cubicle a lot.

Wasn't it Mohammad who convinced people to follow one God? He had a lot to do with all that monotheism stuff that Christians and Jews support.

Ahnimus

VictoryGin wrote:

You must leave your cubicle a lot.

Wasn't it Mohammad who convinced people to follow one God? He had a lot to do with all that monotheism stuff that Christians and Jews support.

Yup, originally it was Abraham that smashed all the idols and told people to worship one god. But people started worshipping idols again before the prophet mohammad.

miller8966

VictoryGin wrote:

You must leave your cubicle a lot.

Wasn't it Mohammad who convinced people to follow one God? He had a lot to do with all that monotheism stuff that Christians and Jews support.

No thats false...people were following one god way b efore the time of mohammed

miller8966

Ahnimus wrote:

Yup, originally it was Abraham that smashed all the idols and told people to worship one god. But people started worshipping idols again before the prophet mohammad.

Maybe some people but not all..christianity was already established before mohammed came to fame.

Ahnimus

miller8966 wrote:

Maybe some people but not all..christianity was already established before mohammed came to fame.

Well Mohammad was the prophet of the Arab nation. So maybe more specifically we should be referring to Arabs. I'm not that knowledgable about Islam as of yet. Probably more than most, but I don't know as much as I should to comment on that in particular.

breakmarysfall

It's gone?

How? Can someone beside Kat and Sea take a thread away, delete it???

I read the thread and thought: wow, that is cool, a new perspective with so much truth in...

...but I usually do not reply to any religious thread due to personal reasons,
so I kept quiet.
but now as its gone, I wonder and am very surprised.

...need to read through this one now... maybe the miracle is solved by now already...

Ahnimus

breakmarysfall wrote:

It's gone?

How? Can someone beside Kat and Sea take a thread away, delete it???

I read the thread and thought: wow, that is cool, a new perspective with so much truth in...

...but I usually do not reply to any religious thread due to personal reasons,
so I kept quiet.
but now as its gone, I wonder and am very surprised.

...need to read through this one now... maybe the miracle is solved by now already...

I'm pretty sure I titled it "This is Mohammad" but it didn't show up in a search. Or on the last 4 or 5 pages. As I was reading it I pasted a bunch of quotes I thought would kind of sum up a lot of what it said about Mohammad amongst all the other stuff. Without making it too long of course. I only spent a few hours reading it. A Lebonese woman I know is going to see if she has an english Qu'ran for me to read. I said thanks but I tried to get the point across that I am not converting to Islam, that I will probably always remain agnostic. I think I may have offender her when I said that it reads like a fairy tale and the sacred texts are far too cryptic to make any modern assumptions. Of course I feel that way about all religions. I don't mean to tread on anyone, just trying to make the point not to try to convert me. I think I've had too many encounters with Jehova's Whitness and Latter-Day Saints. Not that they are a bad thing. Except I tell the JWs it'd be cool to see the apocalypse because I think religion is really fascinating and that would kind of make it more real. That ends up making them want to convert me even more. Mormons don't even try because all the coolness is gone if the apocalypse already happened. Are there any muslims on this board? I've got a lot of questions and I feel bad bugging the people at work about their religion.

Puck78

miller8966 wrote:

yea i think your right...i just left my cubicle and was a little anxious and perturbed.

I guess mohammed wasnt a bad guy...but the people who follow him are jerkoffs.

why isn't this guy banned for life?

Ahnimus

Puck78 wrote:

why isn't this guy banned for life?

Because he works for the ADL man. Isn't that obvious by now?

Pearl Jam and toast

miller8966 wrote:

yea i think your right...i just left my cubicle and was a little anxious and perturbed.

I guess mohammed wasnt a bad guy...but the people who follow him are jerkoffs.

frankly, i'd say anyone who follows an organized religion is some form of jerk off.


Has anyone mentioned that tenclub might get bombed for this thread?

MrBrian

I read it this morning, I think it was (edit) who maybe caused some offense with his post in it? I'm guessing that's the reason it was deleted. I did'nt reply to it but I remember thinking that what he said was in bad taste and really took away from what could've been a very informative thread.

But I could be wrong and just of imagined this whole thing, (I've been having some serious late nights so my mind could be playing tricks on me

Ahnimus

MrBrian wrote:

I read it this morning, I think it was 69charger who maybe caused some offense with his post in it? I'm guessing that's the reason it was deleted. I did'nt reply to it but I remember thinking that what he said was in bad taste and really took away from what could've been a very informative thread.

But I could be wrong and just of imagined this whole thing, (I've been having some serious late nights so my mind could be playing tricks on me

Well, I'm pretty sure I posted it. It's unfortunate that it disappeard. I wanted to get a few different perspectives. Hopefully respectful ones.

This is the right-left paradigm. I use this forum as kind of a sounding board. As I'm sure a lot do. I'm not trying to promote any side of a story. But I try to remain objective and sometimes try to balance the sensus of the board. Often that leads me down a road portraying strong support for something I don't really believe in. I think a lot of people get stuck in that position. I want to make clear that I am agnostic, I'm not muslim, nor will I ever be. I do have respect for Islam though, as much as I do for Judaism or any other religion. How do people get so wrapped up and opinionated in religion?

brain of c

i killed that thread.

dayan

Ahnimus wrote:

Yup, originally it was Abraham that smashed all the idols and told people to worship one god. But people started worshipping idols again before the prophet mohammad.

I think you're confusing some things here. Judaism and Christianity were both well established monotheistic religions at the time of Islam's founding. There were indeed idol worshipers, or non-Jews/Christians inhabiting the arabian peninsula when Islam was founded, and perhaps you could call the religions of Persia at the time pagan as well. But certainly the Levant (Israel, Syria, Lebanon) and Turkey, which were the heartland of the Byzantine empire, were pretty solidly Christian.

dayan

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

frankly, i'd say anyone who follows an organized religion is some form of jerk off.


Has anyone mentioned that tenclub might get bombed for this thread?

That is a really terrible, and uninformed, and unthinking thing to say. Religion has to power to add meaning and beauty to people's lives, and frankly I think too many people write off religion to their own detriment, not to mention that today's world, given its political realities, requires that people start engaging with religion more seriously.

NMyTree

miller8966 wrote:

Im just using my 1st amendement right to freedom of speech

That's not allowed.

As we have all seen, only nice, praiseful things can be said about Islam.

See Thomas Kloucek, former Professor at DePaul. See Cartoon caricatures in Europe.

See Thailand, where at this very moment a horde of Islam's finest are on a rampage murdering Buddists, by the thousands.

Puck78

dayan wrote:

That is a really terrible, and uninformed, and unthinking thing to say. Religion has to power to add meaning and beauty to people's lives, and frankly I think too many people write off religion to their own detriment, not to mention that today's world, given its political realities, requires that people start engaging with religion more seriously.

I strongly agree with you.
However, the sense of beauty plays a very little role in the protestant religion, i.e. the main religion in the usa. And seeing the state of today's western world i wonder if we're all culturally becoming protestant (sense for work, etc)

Puck78

NMyTree wrote:

That's not allowed.

As we have all seen, only nice, praiseful things can be said about Islam.

See Thomas Kloucek, former Professor at DePaul. See Cartoon caricatures in Europe.

See Thailand, where at this very moment a horde of Islam's finest are on a rampage murdering Buddists, by the thousands.

Now, I don't want to start again all the discussions about the cartoons. But that's not against freedom of speech, it's about "you want to insult me? espect to be replied"