Short Autobiography

onelongsong

just the other day i was inspired to start a thread about the board members living situation. i still will after this thread is gone. my motive? i lock horns with quite a few of you; and many times agree. i still consider us friends because you all keep me company when i need it. after spending a day going back and forth with someone; i found out that they lived in a big city and instantly; i understood why his opinions were what they were. basically enviornment. i live in an extreemly rural area and i realized that his opinions were right for the enviornment he lived in.
i've been fighting to find the right words to open the thread which would respect everyones privacy yet give the rest of us some insite. just knowing that this person lived in a big city was enough information for me; in that instance.
there's a few of you i'd like to tie down to a fire ant hill at times but you're always considered a friend in my book. just because i get angry doesn't mean i don't like you.

onelongsong

Ahnimus wrote:

I just want to add that my Mother still lives in my hometown. I went back there a few years ago to visit her. I was hanging around the 7-11 waiting for someone I knew, trying to get some weed. While I was there people were talking about me, pointing at me and whispering. I heard my name a few times, but just ignored everyone.

sounds like the story of murrey's fart. a good story with a good moral. i told someone earlier today: "if i were that shallow; you wouldn't want to know me." be grateful you don't associate with those people.

Ahnimus

onelongsong wrote:

just the other day i was inspired to start a thread about the board members living situation. i still will after this thread is gone. my motive? i lock horns with quite a few of you; and many times agree. i still consider us friends because you all keep me company when i need it. after spending a day going back and forth with someone; i found out that they lived in a big city and instantly; i understood why his opinions were what they were. basically enviornment. i live in an extreemly rural area and i realized that his opinions were right for the enviornment he lived in.
i've been fighting to find the right words to open the thread which would respect everyones privacy yet give the rest of us some insite. just knowing that this person lived in a big city was enough information for me; in that instance.
there's a few of you i'd like to tie down to a fire ant hill at times but you're always considered a friend in my book. just because i get angry doesn't mean i don't like you.

That's good.

If just knowing a person's environment can give you some insight into their personality. Isn't that indicative of determinism?

onelongsong

Ahnimus wrote:

That's good.

If just knowing a person's environment can give you some insight into their personality. Isn't that indicative of determinism?

i'll try to shorten this as much as possible.
it was murrey's wedding day in this small indiana town. with his stomach rolling he took his vows when he let out a fart the entire church heard. he was so embarressed he ran out of the church; packed his things and left town to start over in a different town. after 15 years he became successful and decided to return to his home town. surely no one would remember his embaressment. as he walked down the street remembering his good memories he came upon where the church once stood. he said to an old passerby: when did they tear down the church? the old man stopped and said: let's see; it was 7 years and 3 months after murrey's fart.

Ahnimus

onelongsong wrote:

i'll try to shorten this as much as possible.
it was murrey's wedding day in this small indiana town. with his stomach rolling he took his vows when he let out a fart the entire church heard. he was so embarressed he ran out of the church; packed his things and left town to start over in a different town. after 15 years he became successful and decided to return to his home town. surely no one would remember his embaressment. as he walked down the street remembering his good memories he came upon where the church once stood. he said to an old passerby: when did they tear down the church? the old man stopped and said: let's see; it was 7 years and 3 months after murrey's fart.

Interesting story, I think I missed the point though.

onelongsong

Ahnimus wrote:

Interesting story, I think I missed the point though.

some people will never let go of an incident. no matter how silly or how tragic. it also reflects on the mentallity of the people in that town.
get it yet?

Ahnimus

onelongsong wrote:

some people will never let go of an incident. no matter how silly or how tragic. it also reflects on the mentallity of the people in that town.
get it yet?

Sure, but how is the "mentallity of the people in that town" different from outside of it? Are you suggesting that the social atmosphere within that town shapes the mentallity of it's people? If so, I completely agree.

seagoat2

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

Well it is amazing what one caring person, who just gives someone the ability to feel accepeted and happy with themselves, can do for someone......its all about respect.....

I agree....and LOVE! And compassion.

Ahnimus

seagoat2 wrote:

I agree....and LOVE! And compassion.

Absolutely, but people feel the need for hate and revenge. Which are vestigal animalistic traits we no longer need.

Byrnzie

onelongsong wrote:

i'll try to shorten this as much as possible.
it was murrey's wedding day in this small indiana town. with his stomach rolling he took his vows when he let out a fart the entire church heard. he was so embarressed he ran out of the church; packed his things and left town to start over in a different town. after 15 years he became successful and decided to return to his home town. surely no one would remember his embaressment. as he walked down the street remembering his good memories he came upon where the church once stood. he said to an old passerby: when did they tear down the church? the old man stopped and said: let's see; it was 7 years and 3 months after murrey's fart.

The more I read your posts onelongsong the more I like you. Consider me a friend out of nowhere, for good or bad.

enharmonic

justam wrote:

I think he's pulling our legs.

Brain-damage does not miraculously go away, no matter what events may occur to make a person feel re-born.

while this is true, there are numerous studies that demonstrate the brain's ability to develop new neuro pathways to cope with brain injuries...especially in the area of cortical blindness for instance.

NMyTree

Ahnimus wrote:

Absolutely, but people feel the need for hate and revenge. Which are vestigal animalistic traits we no longer need.

Human Beings are far from perfect. And you're no different than anyone else.

People have a difficult time letting go, getting past or forgiving those who commit violent assaults or crimes in general. Depending on the nature and severity of the crime, and the individuals in question; you'll see varying degrees of letting go, getting past, forgiveness, anger, hate and desire for revenge.



You're attitude and perspective towards others is no different. You judge everyone else and hated them, for their judgement (anger and hate) of you for the crimes and violence you commited. And here, you're still judging others......who judge violent criminals and criminals in general. You preach understanding compassion of the criminal element; but I wonder how much compassion and understanding you have for the victims of crimes and their families.

No offense, but it almost seems like you have shown no remorse for your crimes and violence; only anger and frustration because you expect and want everyone else to be understanding and compasionate of your situation (not saying that's definitely the case, only that it seems that way from your posts). I think you, Ahnimus, have to understand that the kid who's skull you fractured and the victims of your violence were........ the victims of your attacks.

Certainly you were the victim of a horrible accident which caused you extensive damage.

But then you (unwillingly and as a result of the damage) created more victims. Some people reacted to that out love and passion for the victims, which very often can become hate, anger and the desire for revenge.

Understanding their emotions and the actions born out of those emotions, is as important as understanding what caused you to behave in that way. It deserves the same respect, consideration, compassion and love; as what you expect from others for your condition.

soulsinging

Ahnimus wrote:

A series of events turned my life around. None of it was planned, no one made the choice, it just happened. I hope that makes sense to all of you.

no, it doesnt. you skipped over the only part that potentially distinguishes you from ted bundy.

Ahnimus

NMyTree wrote:

Understanding their emotions and the actions born out of those emotions, is as important as understanding what caused you to behave in that way. It deserves the same respect, consideration, compassion and love; as what you expect from others for your condition.

You have no idea how I felt about my friend Marcus. As I said I immediately felt remorse. Why you assume that I have no empathy for the victims evades me. Do you want to view me as Soulsinging does? As a psychophath devoid of compassion for my victims? Is that what you want? That's not how it is, and no amount of you wanting that is going to make it true.

Ahnimus

soulsinging wrote:

no, it doesnt. you skipped over the only part that potentially distinguishes you from ted bundy.

http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=3984866&postcount=13

soulsinging

Ahnimus wrote:

I came to the realization that we don't have free-will aside from my past. I don't actually have any left-over pain or anything. I am completely at peace with my past. But to say that, that was anyone's free-will. I don't think so. I certainly hope not.

Brain injuries are very common, that's why I beg understanding from people that would jump all over a criminal, or a person that has social problems. I know with the case of Phineas Gage and others, adult brain damage is irreversible, and still no one's fault.

bullshit. your views on the lack of free will mean that you came to those conclusions SOLELY becos fo your past and experiences. you are incapable of FREELY choosing to disbelieve in free will aren't you?

soulsinging

NMyTree wrote:

You're attitude and perspective towards others is no different. You judge everyone else and hated them, for their judgement (anger and hate) of you for the crimes and violence you commited. And here, you're still judging others......who judge violent criminals and criminals in general. You preach understanding compassion of the criminal element; but I wonder how much compassion and understanding you have for the victims of crimes and their families.

No offense, but it almost seems like you have shown no remorse for your crimes and violence; only anger and frustration because you expect and want everyone else to be understanding and compasionate of your situation (not saying that's definitely the case, only that it seems that way from your posts). I think you, Ahnimus, have to understand that the kid who's skull you fractured and the victims of your violence were........ the victims of your attacks.

i noticed this too. he says we should forgive criminals. the chief motivation being becos he felt his crimes were justified. he committed a horrible crime and had to leave town, but got even and had revenge on everyone he wanted before he left. how understanding and compassionate is that?

and he still seems to feel like the victim.

Ahnimus

soulsinging wrote:

bullshit. your views on the lack of free will mean that you came to those conclusions SOLELY becos fo your past and experiences. you are incapable of FREELY choosing to disbelieve in free will aren't you?

That's probably true. However, my personal experience was not a deciding factor in my recognition of determinism. Just as, attending church as a child, did not determine my being an atheist.

Ahnimus

soulsinging wrote:

i noticed this too. he says we should forgive criminals. the chief motivation being becos he felt his crimes were justified. he committed a horrible crime and had to leave town, but got even and had revenge on everyone he wanted before he left. how understanding and compassionate is that?

and he still seems to feel like the victim.

What I thought 12 years ago and what I think now are completely different.

No, my crimes were not justified, they were determined.

soulsinging

Ahnimus wrote:

http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=3984866&postcount=13

that answers nothing. you apparently moved and met a nice girl and suddenly everything was magically better?