If you care so much about international malcontent towards Americans, then talk about it. Maybe one thread about it would go a long way towards leading anyone to believe you are the least bit concerned.
There is little in terms of attacking actual American citizens that I've seen. Most of the animosity is directed at the American government and foreign policy.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Most American can distinguish between dislike of another country's governments and dislike of their people. I don't know anyone who dislikes French people for being French. I do know alot of people who disgust France's dupilictious politics. Having been to France more than once, I can say the vast majority of French are wonderful. Now the Parisians...thats another story. Not even the rest of France likes them much
I like french and persian.
You just posted prejudice comments about french people. WTF are you talking about?
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
lol You're concerned about it? What's about to happen in your opinion? Is there an apocolyptic ending in relation to some the ramblings over at FOX? Do I need milk and bread?
It just seems kind of prejudice, especially for a "fair and balanced" news company.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Lokok Ahnimus. Id be willing to bet you've not spent much time in Europe.. Am I right? Here is what you are missing. They have this whole EU thing going on over there right now. And there's a bit of a power struggle. France and Germany are trying to make themselves the center of the EU universe, Britain is trying to do the same, Russia is trying to just get into the circles.
What pisses me off about France is not that they did not back us in Iraq. It's the why part. They stand behind this moral authority argument, but its transparently bullshit. The French are every bit as imperialist now as they have always been. The only problem is they don't have the power to exert their will. They are tweaking us NOT because they give two shits about what happens to Iraqis or young Americans who are dying, they are speaking up ONLY to increase their prestige in Europe and the developing world so that they can sell more Mirage Jets and French Nukes and all that other shit you accuse us of.
Furthermore, its not just us. Spend some time in Europe. They ALL hate the fuckign French.
It's cool. Go ahead and tell him about the French Mirages that turned up on Iraqi tarmacs during the supposed arms embargo. Then if ya want, carry on with the French refusal to back us in Iraq.
"Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
You just posted prejudice comments about french people. WTF are you talking about?
Oh please. You support fucking Nazis and compare them to George Washington. Im not worried about your little sensitivities when you don't have any towards alot of us. Ribbit. Out.
Lokok Ahnimus. Id be willing to bet you've not spent much time in Europe.. Am I right? Here is what you are missing. They have this whole EU thing going on over there right now. And there's a bit of a power struggle. France and Germany are trying to make themselves the center of the EU universe, Britain is trying to do the same, Russia is trying to just get into the circles.
What pisses me off about France is not that they did not back us in Iraq. It's the why part. They stand behind this moral authority argument, but its transparently bullshit. The French are every bit as imperialist now as they have always been. The only problem is they don't have the power to exert their will. They are tweaking us NOT because they give two shits about what happens to Iraqis or young Americans who are dying, they are speaking up ONLY to increase their prestige in Europe and the developing world so that they can sell more Mirage Jets and French Nukes and all that other shit you accuse us of.
Furthermore, its not just us. Spend some time in Europe. They ALL hate the fuckign French.
That whole post is rather myopic, isn't it?
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Oh please. You support fucking Nazis and compare them to George Washington. Im not worried about your little sensitivities when you don't have any towards alot of us. Ribbit. Out.
Dude, I'm not a Nazi supporter. What I hate is people like you that put words in other's mouths and defamate anyone you don't agree with.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Were you kind of upset when Kayne West said George W. Bush hates black people?
I understood his discontent. But I don't see how that is at all relative to the topic. It wasn't like he said "All black people are democrats".
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Actually, I answered it to a degree, and you still haven't answered mine. I'm not "muddying it up", I'm relating your topic to another brand of "nation hating". If someone doesn't give you the exact answer you want to hear, you get your panties in a bunch.
Why is it okay for people to hate Americans, based solely upon being Americans, but you take issue with America's general distaste for the french?
I find French people to be rude, arrogant, and tasteless. One big reason many Americans dislike them is the way they treat Americans who visit there.
But they do make a good vodka. Only good thing in france is the deserts, and Grey Goose.
But do the French really treat American any worse than any other European country? Also, Parisians definitely fit that steriotype, but in other parts of France, the people were very nice.
I understood his discontent. But I don't see how that is at all relative to the topic. It wasn't like he said "All black people are democrats".
Aight bro. You seem to be a bit off on your own now. I'm having a hard time following what it is exactly you're trying to say in any of your posts after you ignored PaperPlates.
"Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
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Originally Posted by yosi
First, I just want to reiterate, that I think that its not something Jews should really care about (and I doubt most do), because Ford was a pioneer. It's a little tactless because even though he was a pioneer, Ford still was a bigot and anti-Semite, and there are plenty of others places that the speech could have been made from. Again, it can be tactless, and not be a big deal.
Oh, tear down the portraits of Washington, smash his statues and rename the city and state. Because he owned slaves.
You cant start shit like this and not expect to get bitch slapped right back can ya. I mean there is so much anti american shit one can hear without wanting to throw a slab of Canadian Bacon at someone ya know?
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Originally Posted by yosi
First, I just want to reiterate, that I think that its not something Jews should really care about (and I doubt most do), because Ford was a pioneer. It's a little tactless because even though he was a pioneer, Ford still was a bigot and anti-Semite, and there are plenty of others places that the speech could have been made from. Again, it can be tactless, and not be a big deal.
Oh, tear down the portraits of Washington, smash his statues and rename the city and state. Because he owned slaves.
You cant start shit like this and not expect to get bitch slapped right back can ya. I mean there is so much anti american shit one can hear without wanting to throw a slab of Canadian Bacon at someone ya know?
I don't understand how that is Anti-American. I was simply pointing out that it's rather unprecedented to not hold political events in or around, or otherwise involving a figure who has commited some vile acts. Such as the case with George Washington. Yet, still there is a City, a State, and probably a room in the White House named after him. His face is on the money. So, this attack on Ford is rather unprecedented.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
we wouldn't have won independence without the french.
Again, a valid point. But anyone should realize that what the French did for us was done more out of spite and hatred of the English then it was for any love of the Americans.
"Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Again, a valid point. But anyone should realize that what the French did for us was done more out of spite and hatred of the English then it was for any love of the Americans.
lol man. So the french are just haters, they only act to fuel their own hatred?
Maybe you should clarify that it's the french government you disagree with and admit that you don't dislike french people.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I keep hearing people on this board and more so on FOX labelling people "french" as if it's a bad thing. That just seems like prejudice to me. I'm surprised it's tolerated and so wide spread.
It's kind of new to me. I mean up in Canada, it's not tolerated. Not just because we have a lot of French-Canadians, but because racial hate is strongly discouraged. In-fact some things will get up to 2 years in jail.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
lol man. So the french are just haters, they only act to fuel their own hatred?
This isn't exactly a direct response in reguards to the statement I made, but, during the 1770's that was exactly the attitude the French had towards the English. And vise versa.
This isn't exactly a direct response in reguards to the statement I made, but, during the 1770's that was exactly the attitude the French had towards the English. And vise versa.
Um. Yes. I hate the French government and it's people who hate me back.
So are you saying you hate french people because they elected their government and are therefor supporting the position of their government? So you do hate french people?
How then is it not justified for them to hate Americans because of the American government?
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
So are you saying you hate french people because they elected their government and are therefor supporting the position of their government? So you do hate french people?
Why do you continue to completely devise statements I have never made? I don't even think I've used the word elected in this entire thread.
I said I hate the French people who hate me. I didn't say I hate French people who don't hate me. See, I can be convoluted too.
How then is it not justified for them to hate Americans because of the American government?
It's not, because I have no idea what you're talking about. It's as if you think you're talking to someone else. No one in this thread said anything about hating the French people because of the French government. Actually, Last Exodus made a post on that very topic.
Hello?
Are you going to ask me why I don't like ice cream now?
"Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Again, a valid point. But anyone should realize that what the French did for us was done more out of spite and hatred of the English then it was for any love of the Americans.
Exactly. And we re-paid the little froggy fuckers back twice with American lives. Lots of em.
So are you saying you hate french people because they elected their government and are therefor supporting the position of their government? So you do hate french people?
How then is it not justified for them to hate Americans because of the American government?
Man, no one hates French people because they happen to be French people. In fact, I dont think Ive ever used the word hate and french in the same sentence. Ok maybe a few times. I hate their french fries. There I said it. Good thing we call them freeedom fries now so I never have to say hate and french in the same sentence again...
But do the French really treat American any worse than any other European country? Also, Parisians definitely fit that steriotype, but in other parts of France, the people were very nice.
And most Americans who visit france, probably visit Paris primarily. Thus the notion many have that the french are pompous jackasses. Im not approving of it, nor am I saying ALL french are that way. Just explaining the perception. Thats what was asked, no?
I keep hearing people on this board and more so on FOX labelling people "french" as if it's a bad thing. That just seems like prejudice to me. I'm surprised it's tolerated and so wide spread.
Simple. We are hate mongers...it took me three posts to get to that...that's the answer I'm guessing you're looking for? so let's just agree to agree.
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Yeah because the French's 6+ years taking the absolute brunt of the German army's attack and the underground resistance movement sure as fuck didn't help anyone, right? Those french pussies couldn't even stand up to the FUCKING GERMAN ARMY.
So many stupid, stupid things have been said against the French in America. The attitude makes no sense and defies history every chance it gets. Also makes anyone ranting about how the french 'wimped out in ww2' (etc..) look like a jackass.
Yeah because the French's 6+ years taking the absolute brunt of the German army's attack and the underground resistance movement sure as fuck didn't help anyone, right? Those french pussies couldn't even stand up to the FUCKING GERMAN ARMY.
So many stupid, stupid things have been said against the French in America. The attitude makes no sense and defies history every chance it gets. Also makes anyone ranting about how the french 'wimped out in ww2' (etc..) look like a jackass.
so like i said...
"Simple. We are hate mongers...it took me three posts to get to that...that's the answer I'm guessing you're looking for? so let's just agree to agree."
does this thread have any other point than this?
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
even jokes put down the french in one way or another:
>A big earthquake with the strength of 8.1 on the
> >Richter scale hit Mexico. Two million Mexicans have
> >died and over a million are injured. The country is
> >totally ruined and the government doesn't know where
> >to start with asking for help to rebuild.
> >
> >The rest of the world is in shock.
> >
> >Canada is sending troops to help the Mexican army
> >control the riots
> >
> >Saudi Arabia is sending oil.
> >
> >Other Latin American countries are sending supplies.
> >
> >The European community (except France) is sending food
> >and money.
> >
> >The United States, not to be outdone, is sending two
> >million replacement Mexicans.
> >
> >God Bless America!
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There is little in terms of attacking actual American citizens that I've seen. Most of the animosity is directed at the American government and foreign policy.
I like french and persian.
You just posted prejudice comments about french people. WTF are you talking about?
It just seems kind of prejudice, especially for a "fair and balanced" news company.
It's cool. Go ahead and tell him about the French Mirages that turned up on Iraqi tarmacs during the supposed arms embargo. Then if ya want, carry on with the French refusal to back us in Iraq.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
Oh please. You support fucking Nazis and compare them to George Washington. Im not worried about your little sensitivities when you don't have any towards alot of us. Ribbit. Out.
Were you kind of upset when Kayne West said George W. Bush hates black people?
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
That whole post is rather myopic, isn't it?
Dude, I'm not a Nazi supporter. What I hate is people like you that put words in other's mouths and defamate anyone you don't agree with.
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"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
I understood his discontent. But I don't see how that is at all relative to the topic. It wasn't like he said "All black people are democrats".
Aight bro. You seem to be a bit off on your own now. I'm having a hard time following what it is exactly you're trying to say in any of your posts after you ignored PaperPlates.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
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Ahnimus
Rival Join Date: May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yosi
First, I just want to reiterate, that I think that its not something Jews should really care about (and I doubt most do), because Ford was a pioneer. It's a little tactless because even though he was a pioneer, Ford still was a bigot and anti-Semite, and there are plenty of others places that the speech could have been made from. Again, it can be tactless, and not be a big deal.
Oh, tear down the portraits of Washington, smash his statues and rename the city and state. Because he owned slaves.
You cant start shit like this and not expect to get bitch slapped right back can ya. I mean there is so much anti american shit one can hear without wanting to throw a slab of Canadian Bacon at someone ya know?
I don't understand how that is Anti-American. I was simply pointing out that it's rather unprecedented to not hold political events in or around, or otherwise involving a figure who has commited some vile acts. Such as the case with George Washington. Yet, still there is a City, a State, and probably a room in the White House named after him. His face is on the money. So, this attack on Ford is rather unprecedented.
Again, a valid point. But anyone should realize that what the French did for us was done more out of spite and hatred of the English then it was for any love of the Americans.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
lol man. So the french are just haters, they only act to fuel their own hatred?
Maybe you should clarify that it's the french government you disagree with and admit that you don't dislike french people.
i've been hearing that for almost 40 years.
It's kind of new to me. I mean up in Canada, it's not tolerated. Not just because we have a lot of French-Canadians, but because racial hate is strongly discouraged. In-fact some things will get up to 2 years in jail.
This isn't exactly a direct response in reguards to the statement I made, but, during the 1770's that was exactly the attitude the French had towards the English. And vise versa.
Um. Yes. I hate the French government and it's people who hate me back.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
So are you saying you hate french people because they elected their government and are therefor supporting the position of their government? So you do hate french people?
How then is it not justified for them to hate Americans because of the American government?
Why do you continue to completely devise statements I have never made? I don't even think I've used the word elected in this entire thread.
I said I hate the French people who hate me. I didn't say I hate French people who don't hate me. See, I can be convoluted too.
It's not, because I have no idea what you're talking about. It's as if you think you're talking to someone else. No one in this thread said anything about hating the French people because of the French government. Actually, Last Exodus made a post on that very topic.
Hello?
Are you going to ask me why I don't like ice cream now?
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
Man, no one hates French people because they happen to be French people. In fact, I dont think Ive ever used the word hate and french in the same sentence. Ok maybe a few times. I hate their french fries. There I said it. Good thing we call them freeedom fries now so I never have to say hate and french in the same sentence again...
And most Americans who visit france, probably visit Paris primarily. Thus the notion many have that the french are pompous jackasses. Im not approving of it, nor am I saying ALL french are that way. Just explaining the perception. Thats what was asked, no?
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Simple. We are hate mongers...it took me three posts to get to that...that's the answer I'm guessing you're looking for? so let's just agree to agree.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
So many stupid, stupid things have been said against the French in America. The attitude makes no sense and defies history every chance it gets. Also makes anyone ranting about how the french 'wimped out in ww2' (etc..) look like a jackass.
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Oh my, they dropped the leash.
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"Make our day"
so like i said...
"Simple. We are hate mongers...it took me three posts to get to that...that's the answer I'm guessing you're looking for? so let's just agree to agree."
does this thread have any other point than this?
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
>A big earthquake with the strength of 8.1 on the
> >Richter scale hit Mexico. Two million Mexicans have
> >died and over a million are injured. The country is
> >totally ruined and the government doesn't know where
> >to start with asking for help to rebuild.
> >
> >The rest of the world is in shock.
> >
> >Canada is sending troops to help the Mexican army
> >control the riots
> >
> >Saudi Arabia is sending oil.
> >
> >Other Latin American countries are sending supplies.
> >
> >The European community (except France) is sending food
> >and money.
> >
> >The United States, not to be outdone, is sending two
> >million replacement Mexicans.
> >
> >God Bless America!