Mental disability groups protest 'Tropic Thunder'

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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    inmytree wrote:
    call me simple, but what's the issue here...? what happens in this movie that is so bad...?

    Nothing.

    Seems to me, some overly-PC people who allegedly don't have mental hanicaps; probably stirred the pot with this and coached some handicapped people into being outraged over nothing.
  • BetterThanYou
    BetterThanYou Posts: 853
    You don't call retarded people 'retards'. That would be offensive. You call your friends 'retards' when they're acting retarded.
    -Michael Scott
    "Have you ever.........pooped a balloon?"
    ~D.K.S.
  • Its Evolution Baby
    Its Evolution Baby Posts: 849
    BetterThanYou wrote:
    You don't call retarded people 'retards'. That would be offensive. You call your friends 'retards' when they're acting retarded.
    -Michael Scott

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  • lephty
    lephty Posts: 770
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yioJQFrqMXM

    enjoy... there is a dozen or so episodes~
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    This movie is bound to give everone a self conscious spraying boner on for war...

    just like all the other "NAM" glorification movies that come out...

    YeAh...smaoke that agent orange weed JAck Black you white nagger black man mother fucker....
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • 69charger
    69charger Posts: 1,045
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    This movie is bound to give everone a self conscious spraying boner on for war...

    just like all the other "NAM" glorification movies that come out...

    YeAh...smaoke that agent orange weed JAck Black you white nagger black man mother fucker....

    WTF are YOU smoking?

    Wow!
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    69charger wrote:
    WTF are YOU smoking?

    Wow!

    what?!... I think it's great to put out another Nam flick in light of all current circumstances so everyone can get their load off a summer war flick based on lies.....just like real ife...

    it's patriotic...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • KosmicJelli
    KosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    surfanddestroy wrote:
    Maybe next time make you point clearer.

    Sometimes people just need the lure...
  • KosmicJelli
    KosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    exhausted wrote:
    hey, don't yell at us. we didn't make the movie.
    Whom said I was yelling???? I never yell... when did these post get sound?
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    This movie is bound to give everone a self conscious spraying boner on for war...

    just like all the other "NAM" glorification movies that come out...

    YeAh...smaoke that agent orange weed JAck Black you white nagger black man mother fucker....
    you need help.


    and its not a Nam movie.
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
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    Ok, I've confirmed my ticket for hell now. :D
  • meistereder
    meistereder Posts: 1,577
    I haven't seen the movie, but do you guys remember the scene in "There's Something About Mary" where Matt Dillon's character is trying to impress Mary and he says he works "with retards"?

    That was funny, not because the word retard is inherently funny. It was funny because he used the word in an ignorant way, which was the opposite of what he was trying to accomplish.

    People need to listen to more George Carlin. There are no "bad" words. There are bad thoughts, bad intentions, and words. Language evolves. The word retarded was itself a clinical euphamism at one point not too long ago. When I was a kid, my mother, a special education teacher, used to say that she taught severely retarded children. Now they are disabled, but it's the same thing in the end.

    More groups should do what the gay community has done. Embrace the words and make them their own. Once you own the words, they can't hurt you.
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  • in_hiding79
    in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    That is so silly, it's just a movie.


    Sixteen Candles used the word "retarded" twice. :rolleyes: I'm not going to watch it anymore when it comes on TBS!!
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    I think a lot of people are missing the point.

    What Hollywood is doing is glorifying a derogatory word. I'll repeat that -- a DEROGATORY word. To all that feel the 'Retard' word is just a word, try having a family member who is mentally challenged, or even physically handicapped, and see if that word means the same thing to you.

    It doesn't matter how the word is used, "retarded" is picking fun of those who have disabilities. It all stems back to the original slang usage and that is making fun of everyone who has some kind of impairment. Hollywood, and Ben Stiller, is saying that it is acceptable to use it, which is WRONG. These people who aren't "with it" are typically better people who have more sense than so-called "normal" people.

    I, like the OP, has a child with Down syndrome. This kind of stuff takes on a whole new meaning when it falls into your life suddenly and really brings on a whole new world to deal with. And that world can be pretty cruel. Have some respect please, and treat everyone like you'd treat yourself!!

    I have a Hell of a situation to fight for the rest of my daughter's life and that is that she is just like everyone else, and she should be treated with the same respect as everyone else!
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    actually i think officially 'retarded' is ok, but 'retard' isnt. it kinda makes sense. 'retarded' is a scientific term, 'retard' is usually a negative term for someone who is retarded.

    but yeah i agree its not the word, but the thought behind it. but i seldom ever hear the word 'retard' used in an inoffensive manner. Unless its from some guy genuinely ignorant of what to call them (rarely).

    chances are if you ever called my brother a 'retard' when i was around you'd have a cracked skull in about .5 seconds, unless i thought you just didnt know its offensive. thats one thing i have zero patience for.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    as far as the movie is concerned, like i said its all about context. i think the movie (at least from what i hear) isn't really making fun of retarded people. i admit the word makes me uncomfortable, but i'm not in favor of banning a word in art because some people might be offended.

    if dumbasses use the word in real life, it only makes sense that dumbasses in movies should say the same thing. hopefully the movie shows those types in a somewhat negative manner (but i dont think thats a major theme of the movie).
  • meistereder
    meistereder Posts: 1,577
    MrSmith wrote:
    actually i think officially 'retarded' is ok, but 'retard' isnt. it kinda makes sense. 'retarded' is a scientific term, 'retard' is usually a negative term for someone who is retarded.

    but yeah i agree its not the word, but the thought behind it. but i seldom ever hear the word 'retard' used in an inoffensive manner. Unless its from some guy genuinely ignorant of what to call them (rarely).

    chances are if you ever called my brother a 'retard' when i was around you'd have a cracked skull in about .5 seconds, unless i thought you just didnt know its offensive. thats one thing i have zero patience for.


    re·tard·ed Audio Help /rɪˈtɑrdɪd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ri-tahr-did] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective 1. characterized by retardation: a retarded child. –noun 2. (used with a plural verb) mentally retarded persons collectively (usually prec. by the): new schools for the retarded.

    Here is the thing: Language evolves. "Retarded" used to be the politically correct way to say invalid, moron, imbecile or idiot. All of those terms used to be used scientifically, as was retarded. Now, it is mentally disabled or impaired. In 20 years, those terms will also be obsolete, because there will be other more "acceptable" ways to say the same exact thing.
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    meistereder wrote:
    re·tard·ed Audio Help /rɪˈtɑrdɪd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ri-tahr-did] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective 1. characterized by retardation: a retarded child. –noun 2. (used with a plural verb) mentally retarded persons collectively (usually prec. by the): new schools for the retarded.

    Here is the thing: Language evolves. "Retarded" used to be the politically correct way to say invalid, moron, imbecile or idiot. All of those terms used to be used scientifically, as was retarded. Now, it is mentally disabled or impaired. In 20 years, those terms will also be obsolete, because there will be other more "acceptable" ways to say the same exact thing.
    i think thats pretty ridiculous though. once one word is considered politically incorrect, people will just use a new one until its banned too. why not fight the ignorance behind it instead changing the word every few years. ARC is still Association of Retarded Citizens.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    If it keeps actors like Cuba Gooding, Jr. from playing... well, whatever the term is that won't have a bunch of hyper-sensetive politically correct people from jumping on my neck... like in that movie, 'Radio', then I'm all for the ban.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    MrSmith wrote:
    i think thats pretty ridiculous though. once one word is considered politically incorrect, people will just use a new one until its banned too. why not fight the ignorance behind it instead changing the word every few years. ARC is still Association of Retarded Citizens.

    agreed

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