Why Do We Even Fight Against Terrorism?

AiCPearlJamWeen
AiCPearlJamWeen Posts: 785
edited August 2008 in A Moving Train
Terrorism will never die and I think we should all just deal with it and keep to our god damn selves. It's so stupid to spend billions a week on the "war on terror" when it looks like we haven't even made a dent after 8 years. How much have we spent? The US just keeps digging itself into a hole with all the attention going to terrorism when we have debts to China. If I ever get a chance to move out of the US I am taking it.
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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Terrorism isn't the problem per say, if we're seriously about ending it, you need to address the issues that cause it and we don't do that. It's similar to creating soup kitchens to deter starvation (for poor/homeless people)... doesn't fix the problem, just address the effect of it.
    CONservative governMENt

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  • 3inputchick
    3inputchick Posts: 845
    Please tell me you are Canadian
    AiCPearlJamWeen wrote:
    Terrorism will never die and I think we should all just deal with it and keep to our god damn selves. It's so stupid to spend billions a week on the "war on terror" when it looks like we haven't even made a dent after 8 years. How much have we spent? The US just keeps digging itself into a hole with all the attention going to terrorism when we have debts to China. If I ever get a chance to move out of the US I am taking it.
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    3inputchick wrote:
    Please tell me you are Canadian
    otherwise he's an un-patriotic american, right?

    terrorism can be dealt with and decreased, but "war on terror" is one of the biggest oxymorons I've ever heard in my life.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    AiCPearlJamWeen wrote:
    Terrorism will never die and I think we should all just deal with it and keep to our god damn selves. It's so stupid to spend billions a week on the "war on terror" when it looks like we haven't even made a dent after 8 years. How much have we spent? The US just keeps digging itself into a hole with all the attention going to terrorism when we have debts to China. If I ever get a chance to move out of the US I am taking it.

    Actually, it seems to me as if the amount of terrorism attacks against the U.S. have declined quite a bit in the last 8 years.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Terrorism isn't the problem per say, if we're seriously about ending it, you need to address the issues that cause it and we don't do that. It's similar to creating soup kitchens to deter starvation (for poor/homeless people)... doesn't fix the problem, just address the effect of it.

    I think one of the biggest "causes" is the fact that some people in the world are willing to indiscriminately murder civilians. How do we deal with that cause?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    putting out fire with gasoline really works


    no really....just a littel bit more gas....

    little more...

    ...a *little* bit more...

    hmm the fire is getting bigger?!?!?!

    It's so confusing... we need more money....more gas......

    :rolleyes:
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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    It's a long read, but not bad when discussing the various factors which cause terrorism.

    http://www.safe-democracy.org/docs/CdM-Series-on-Terrorism-Vol-1.pdf
    know1 wrote:
    I think one of the biggest "causes" is the fact that some people in the world are willing to indiscriminately murder civilians. How do we deal with that cause?
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    AiCPearlJamWeen wrote:
    Terrorism will never die and I think we should all just deal with it and keep to our god damn selves. It's so stupid to spend billions a week on the "war on terror" when it looks like we haven't even made a dent after 8 years. How much have we spent? The US just keeps digging itself into a hole with all the attention going to terrorism when we have debts to China. If I ever get a chance to move out of the US I am taking it.

    i know why do we even fight crime? lets be realisitic, you do have to defend yoru country. now does that mean dropping bombs? maybe/maybe not. but to say that we should just deal with it and keep to ourselves is pretty dumb.
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    No matter how hard we try to eliminate rape, there are still rapists out there. People are still getting raped in this country every day.

    Why bother to fight it?

    If you're going to get raped, just lay back and enjoy it.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • stickfig13
    stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    AiCPearlJamWeen wrote:
    Terrorism will never die and I think we should all just deal with it and keep to our god damn selves. It's so stupid to spend billions a week on the "war on terror" when it looks like we haven't even made a dent after 8 years. How much have we spent? The US just keeps digging itself into a hole with all the attention going to terrorism when we have debts to China. If I ever get a chance to move out of the US I am taking it.


    Look what doing nothing got us....

    9-11
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  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    AiCPearlJamWeen wrote:
    Terrorism will never die and I think we should all just deal with it and keep to our god damn selves. It's so stupid to spend billions a week on the "war on terror" when it looks like we haven't even made a dent after 8 years. How much have we spent? The US just keeps digging itself into a hole with all the attention going to terrorism when we have debts to China. If I ever get a chance to move out of the US I am taking it.

    The war on terror is the stupidest thing I have ever seen humans do. We have alienated partners and created enemies.
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    stickfig13 wrote:
    Look what doing nothing got us....

    9-11

    look what somethign got us.. the War in Iraq.. The war in Afghanistan

    millions dead... 99% of the dead were innocent.

    do I need to draw a graph to show how much worse that was than 9-11?
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Abuskedti wrote:
    The war on terror is the stupidest thing I have ever seen humans do. We have alienated partners and created enemies.

    Eh, those enemies were there long before 9.11. And will continue to be there long after.

    Best you can do is try to mitigate the kind of harm they can do to you.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    stickfig13 wrote:
    Look what doing nothing got us....

    9-11

    Ahh...9/11

    are you 100% certain that day is kosher beyond a doubt?

    I think it's REALLY kosher...mossad kosher...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Eh, those enemies were there long before 9.11. And will continue to be there long after.

    Best you can do is try to mitigate the kind of harm they can do to you.
    are you kidding?

    after 9/11 we had most of the world, including the Arab world, on our side, sympathizing.

    look where we are now.
  • stickfig13
    stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    Abuskedti wrote:
    look what somethign got us.. the War in Iraq.. The war in Afghanistan

    millions dead... 99% of the dead were innocent.

    do I need to draw a graph to show how much worse that was than 9-11?


    There is no doubt that the "war on terror" has been totally screwed up....

    Gone about the right way......I think it's a must
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    how do you have a war on terror when these wars = terror?
  • stickfig13
    stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Ahh...9/11

    are you 100% certain that day is kosher beyond a doubt?

    I think it's REALLY kosher...mossad kosher...


    Here we go.....
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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    It is not a must... in fact it furthers the cycle of terror and enables it to grow and prosper.
    stickfig13 wrote:
    There is no doubt that the "war on terror" has been totally screwed up....

    Gone about the right way......I think it's a must
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    _outlaw wrote:
    are you kidding?

    after 9/11 we had most of the world, including the Arab world, on our side, sympathizing.

    look where we are now.

    And had it not been for Iraq, which I'm sure you'll quickly admit had nothing to do with fighting terrorism, we would still have most of the world on our side.

    So what is your point exactly?
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do

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