Why Do We Even Fight Against Terrorism?
AiCPearlJamWeen
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Terrorism will never die and I think we should all just deal with it and keep to our god damn selves. It's so stupid to spend billions a week on the "war on terror" when it looks like we haven't even made a dent after 8 years. How much have we spent? The US just keeps digging itself into a hole with all the attention going to terrorism when we have debts to China. If I ever get a chance to move out of the US I am taking it.
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Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
terrorism can be dealt with and decreased, but "war on terror" is one of the biggest oxymorons I've ever heard in my life.
Actually, it seems to me as if the amount of terrorism attacks against the U.S. have declined quite a bit in the last 8 years.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I think one of the biggest "causes" is the fact that some people in the world are willing to indiscriminately murder civilians. How do we deal with that cause?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
no really....just a littel bit more gas....
little more...
...a *little* bit more...
hmm the fire is getting bigger?!?!?!
It's so confusing... we need more money....more gas......
:rolleyes:
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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http://www.safe-democracy.org/docs/CdM-Series-on-Terrorism-Vol-1.pdf
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
i know why do we even fight crime? lets be realisitic, you do have to defend yoru country. now does that mean dropping bombs? maybe/maybe not. but to say that we should just deal with it and keep to ourselves is pretty dumb.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
Why bother to fight it?
If you're going to get raped, just lay back and enjoy it.
for the least they could possibly do
Look what doing nothing got us....
9-11
The war on terror is the stupidest thing I have ever seen humans do. We have alienated partners and created enemies.
look what somethign got us.. the War in Iraq.. The war in Afghanistan
millions dead... 99% of the dead were innocent.
do I need to draw a graph to show how much worse that was than 9-11?
Eh, those enemies were there long before 9.11. And will continue to be there long after.
Best you can do is try to mitigate the kind of harm they can do to you.
for the least they could possibly do
Ahh...9/11
are you 100% certain that day is kosher beyond a doubt?
I think it's REALLY kosher...mossad kosher...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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after 9/11 we had most of the world, including the Arab world, on our side, sympathizing.
look where we are now.
There is no doubt that the "war on terror" has been totally screwed up....
Gone about the right way......I think it's a must
Here we go.....
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
And had it not been for Iraq, which I'm sure you'll quickly admit had nothing to do with fighting terrorism, we would still have most of the world on our side.
So what is your point exactly?
for the least they could possibly do
That is a long read. I got as far as the part where it basically said that psychologically terrorist shouldn't be classified as abnormal and I stopped.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
It's a war that will continue forever that feeds on the fear of the American public. I know it's a cliche and in about 5 seconds 17 very tough Americans will say they have no idea what the concept "fear" even means.
But I think it does hold some truth. Terrorism is not a direct threat to you at all. Of course you shouldn't just ignore it, but actively invading countries isn't going to work, people. Why? Because the terrorists themselves have said that America's presence in the Middle East and their support for Israel is one of the main reasons they are doing what they are doing. They're basically asking the US to get its big dick out of their sandy arse.
Yet the US spends billions of American tax payer money to fight a ghost that will never die as long as they try to fight it.
There's a big difference between defending yourself and actively going to look for people who might want to kill you.
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all wars are started on them...
I think we witnessed the mother of all of them thus far...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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But does preventing terrorism=a war?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Depends what you mean by preventing terrorism.
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I don't think anyone is saying it has gone well.....
What I'm saying is that if handled correctly (from the start) it would be a worthwhile venture.
This is true, which I think is the difference between Iraq and Afghanistan. Also, there are other pieces of this so-called "War on Terror" that have had pretty substantial effects in combatting (or preventing) terrorism. Freezing assets of terrorists and some of the "charitable organizations" being used to funnel money to them. Certain parts of the Patriot Act, which I know gets vilified here en total. Removing the Taliban from power in Afghanistan.
All of that HAS made a dent in Al Qaeda's ability to attack us. Or maybe AQ just hasn't been able to mount another attack in seven years because bin Laden's been busy with a particularly tricky Sudoku puzzle.
for the least they could possibly do
My point isn't that it's a disaster. I think most people realise that.
What do you mean by handled correctly? Just Afghanistan?
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Correctly= Fighting terrorist on their level. Eliminating poverty. Freezing Funding. Psychological Warfare.
Incorrect= Large scale wars in shithole oil countries. Pre-Emptive Strikes (See: Bush Doctrine)
I think there are definitely things that can be done to prevent or slow down terrorism without actually going in to kill the terrorists (and countless other random people).
Terrorists have time. You can never run out of terrorists. I truly believe that the longer this war on terror continues the more dangerous it will get, for us as well.
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