why can't US capture/kill OBL

suns rival
suns rival Posts: 15,926
edited February 2007 in A Moving Train
with it's state of the art defense & intelligence capabilities, why can't the world's most powerful nation capture/kill a mere mortal like Osama? just curious.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    suns rival wrote:
    with it's state of the art defense & intelligence capabilities, why can't the world's most powerful nation capture/kill a mere mortal like Osama? just curious.

    He's too useful to the Bush administration alive. He's a good propaganda tool.
  • Seriously, they've spent too much time and resource on creating the perfect caricature of a terrorist/boogyman. They need those timely terror warnings to evoke fear and also draw attention away from whatever bad press they are getting from week to week.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    because he is hiding in an area US isnt allowed to go.

    most likely here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waziristan
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    He's too useful to the Bush administration alive. He's a good propaganda tool.


    really I have heard bush say several times he isnt worried about bin laden. (which I totally disagree with)

    http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/2002/11/13_Laden.html
  • suns rival wrote:
    with it's state of the art defense & intelligence capabilities, why can't the world's most powerful nation capture/kill a mere mortal like Osama? just curious.

    Do you really think it'll make the slightest bit of difference if they do?!
    93: Slane
    96: Cork, Dublin
    00: Dublin
    06: London, Dublin
    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    09: Manchester, London
    10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
    11: San José
    12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Do you really think it'll make the slightest bit of difference if they do?!

    yes of course it will.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    yes of course it will.

    and what makes you think that? Bin Laden is a far more insignificant figure than the propaganda machine would have you believe.
    93: Slane
    96: Cork, Dublin
    00: Dublin
    06: London, Dublin
    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    09: Manchester, London
    10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
    11: San José
    12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    jlew24asu wrote:
    yes of course it will.

    How? It won't make the world safer. It's not like he doesn't have people ready to assume his leadership role.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    because he is hiding in an area US isnt allowed to go.

    most likely here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waziristan

    Or maybe he's in here...

    http://www.political-news.org/images/full_size/halliburton-gets-3672-million-bonus-for-work-in-iraq.jpg
  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    and what makes you think that? Bin Laden is a far more insignificant figure than the propaganda machine would have you believe.

    I think he is a significant figure. I just hope that capturing him does not lead to complacency.
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  • jlew24asu wrote:
    yes of course it will.

    convincing and deep
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    How? It won't make the world safer. It's not like he doesn't have people ready to assume his leadership role.

    it will be a symbolic victory and it may very well make the world safer. he is the leader and creator of el queda. as much as I hate the guy, he is a smart evil person who is capable of horrible things.

    he will not be easiest replaced
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    jlew24asu wrote:
    because he is hiding in an area US isnt allowed to go.

    most likely here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waziristan

    As much as I dislike this administration you can't really place blame on them for not trying. You are correct in stating that we can't get him because he is in a region that we have no access to. What this administration is in fault of is outsourcing the job of capturing him when we invaded Afghanistan and he was holed up in Tora Bora. Had we did the job ourselves instead of hiring local militia we probably would have captured or killed him.
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  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    suns rival wrote:
    with it's state of the art defense & intelligence capabilities, why can't the world's most powerful nation capture/kill a mere mortal like Osama? just curious.

    surface area of a man = 0,2m²
    surface of the earh = 510 067 420 km²
  • TheGossman
    TheGossman Posts: 1,120
    suns rival wrote:
    with it's state of the art defense & intelligence capabilities, why can't the world's most powerful nation capture/kill a mere mortal like Osama? just curious.


    because Bush said several times that he could care less were Bin Laden is, I'm sure Bush would let Laden marry one of his daughters if he asked!
    9/4/98, 8/4/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/15/03, 4/16/03, 4/19/03, 4/25/03, 4/26/03, 4/28/03, 4/29/03, 4/30/03, 7/8/03, 7/9/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/6/04, 9/1/05, 9/2/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 8/5/07, 6/11/08, 6/12/08, 6/14/08, 6/16/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08
  • Uncle Leo wrote:
    I think he is a significant figure. I just hope that capturing him does not lead to complacency.

    What's significant about him? He was the leader of a small, disorganised and ramshackle band of renegades, who managed to pull off an admittedly huge and horrifying terrorist act, but if you think he's got any sort of real pull amongst most of the very disparate and unrelated groups who've all gone calling themselves "al-Qaeda in X,Y & Z" since 9/11, then you're very much mistaken.
    93: Slane
    96: Cork, Dublin
    00: Dublin
    06: London, Dublin
    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    09: Manchester, London
    10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
    11: San José
    12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    What's significant about him? He was the leader of a small, disorganised and ramshackle band of renegades, who managed to pull off an admittedly huge and horrifying terrorist act, but if you think he's got any sort of real pull amongst most of the very disparate and unrelated groups who've all gone calling themselves "al-Qaeda in X,Y & Z" since 9/11, then you're very much mistaken.

    you really dont get it. el queda is much more the a small, disorganized and ramshackle band of renegades. they have the will and ability to do some unspeakable bad things. why would you take them so lightly?
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    it will be a symbolic victory and it may very well make the world safer. he is the leader and creator of el queda. as much as I hate the guy, he is a smart evil person who is capable of horrible things.

    he will not be easiest replaced

    1. Symbolic of what, exactly?
    2. The chances of it having any significant impact on global affairs (except for the probable brief intensification of violence in retaliation) is almost non-existence.
    3. Bin Laden is not in control of what you think al-Qaeda is - and al-Qaeda is not what you think it is.
    4. He did not create al-Qaeda, in any sense.
    5. He doesn't need to be replaced - he's been replicated


    Go do some research.
    93: Slane
    96: Cork, Dublin
    00: Dublin
    06: London, Dublin
    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    09: Manchester, London
    10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
    11: San José
    12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Kann wrote:
    surface area of a man = 0,2m²
    surface of the earh = 510 067 420 km²

    George Bush..


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  • The fact that we haven't found Bin Laden isn't a hit against the Administration. It's a hit against the Green Berets, Delta Force and SEALS that are activley searching for him.


    It's called Task Force 20.
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