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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,961
    My reasoning for posting that polling is to show Harris is still very well liked so shitting on her for thinking of running again is misguided seeing as she is the most well known and liked person of the names being polled. 

    It makes sense that Mamdani is less liked (though really more unknown) nationally because he is not a national politician.

    Do you really think:

    1) Kamala running again is a good idea
    2) Kamala would win

    I am no dem so I don't know but I have a hard time seeing how you answer yes to either of those.
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,244
    I mean, I'd like to see how well she is liked if she had the normal amount of time to run for president post VPing.

    I think Trump is unpopular enough as of right now that yes she could beat him. Its a bad enough environment that people would swing back the other way. I'm not saying a generic Dem would beat him (I'm not a big fan of that type of polling because its more or less just asking what team do you like better rn), but If you get someone one who can connect with the populous and sell some good ideas, in this environment, yes. 


  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,244
    there hasn't been because the democratic establishment has kept them from winning. Mamdani is gonna win. This may be a great test case. 

    Great , you pay these taxes
    they want to stuff like this in Illinois, I will. We do this federally, I will. 


    It’s not about ME. it’s about US.

    I agree but a politicians first job is to figure out how to win elections, before trying to sell their utopian ideas that may shock the majority of voters.
    Usually someone running for president presents their ideas of what they want to do first. 

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,244
    I mean you act like no one has any ideas of how to win elections. Dems have won more than half of the elections going back to 2004 (losing only 04, 10, 14, 16 and 20). 1 loss in a row is not a losing streak.

  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,862
    My reasoning for posting that polling is to show Harris is still very well liked so shitting on her for thinking of running again is misguided seeing as she is the most well known and liked person of the names being polled. 

    It makes sense that Mamdani is less liked (though really more unknown) nationally because he is not a national politician.

    Do you really think:

    1) Kamala running again is a good idea
    2) Kamala would win

    I am no dem so I don't know but I have a hard time seeing how you answer yes to either of those.
    canada is more popular than trump, and harris nearly beat him last time. i think she would beat his ass if she ran a full campaign.

    but he can't run for a third term so this is all moot at this point. 

    whomever the dems run will have to face vance.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,244
    To be clear, I think there are better candidates than Harris, but I get how she thinks she has a shot again. I don't think she'll be the candidate though. But if she were I wouldn't hand wring over it and question "how did we get here?!?".

  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,725
    She did almost beat that piece of shit....and there is no doubt that she would have been a monumentally better president.


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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,862
    She did almost beat that piece of shit....and there is no doubt that she would have been a monumentally better president.


    i still do not buy that she lost all 7 swing states. 
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,725
    She did almost beat that piece of shit....and there is no doubt that she would have been a monumentally better president.


    i still do not buy that she lost all 7 swing states. 
    I didn't question it much at first but I do now. 
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,862
    She did almost beat that piece of shit....and there is no doubt that she would have been a monumentally better president.


    i still do not buy that she lost all 7 swing states. 
    I didn't question it much at first but I do now. 
    there is no way she lost all of them. trump, as damaged as he was, is the first person in 40 years to win all of them? come on. doesn't pass the smell test. obama didn't do it. clinton didn't do it. neither bush did it, come on.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,386

     * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    All Hamas, eh? BOO!

    Our work has only just begun’: Mamdani, Sanders and AOC rally the faithful ahead of NYC mayoral election

    Thousands pack Forest Hills stadium on Sunday night, voicing their excitement and hope for change

    Just over a week before New York City’s mayoral election on 4 November, about 13,000 people poured into Forest Hills stadium in Queens for the “NYC Is Not For Sale” rally, a packed gathering headlined by representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, senator Bernie Sanders and the Democratic mayoral candidate, assemblyman Zohran Mamdani.

    The historic open-air venue was filled to capacity. New Yorkers of all ages and backgrounds came together, but it was the Gen Z crowd that seemed to animate the atmosphere.

    Many there described the event as more than just a rally. It was a moment of unity, frustration and optimism all at once. For Hayley Miller, 23, of Briarwood, the motivation to attend was simple: “I’m here because the government sucks, to be honest with you … and I feel like we should make a change as a country, and New York City is definitely the place to start that.”

    For Spencer, 29, who lives nearby in Forest Hills, the energy of the event reflected something he hasn’t felt in local politics in a long time. “It’s exciting that someone who actually might change things is appearing in an area that I’m in,” he said. “If it’s here, it’s like, why not? If we’re not gonna be involved now, then when is the time?”

    Another Forest Hills resident, Emily, 29, shared a similar enthusiasm: “I think it’s exciting to be a part of this energy. We even went out to vote earlier today because we were getting in the mindset to be psyched for everything that he’s for.”

    The diversity of the crowd mirrored the city itself. Longtime residents, newcomers, young professionals and retirees all were present in the crowd. For Mitch, 68, from Astoria, it was his first rally of the campaign. “I’m here because, well, I want to hear what they have to say, and there’s no other viable candidates, in my opinion,” he said.

    For Mitch, the key issues facing NYC right now are “safety, the trains being safe, and affordability”, adding that while he’s skeptical about whether Mamdani can deliver on all his promises, he’s open-minded. “I don’t know who’s going to pay for all this stuff he wants done … but I’m going in open-minded, and just hoping somebody is offering some alternatives.”

    Brooklyn, 30, also from Astoria, said their top priorities were protecting LGBTQ rights and tackling the city’s affordability crisis. “I think Mamdani is doing a great job of addressing everything I’m concerned about,” they said.

    Nicole, 30, echoed that sentiment, praising Mamdani’s authenticity: “I feel like Mamdani is very genuine in his responses in a way that isn’t typically seen in most politicians. He’s a little less lip service-y than usual.”

    Mamdani had a clear message he was aiming to get across at the rally; diversity is NYC’s biggest strength. At one point, he had a rabbi, a reverend, and an imam all on stage together in support of his campaign. Brad Lander, the city’s comptroller and a former candidate in this election, also came out to endorse Mamdani.

    Sanders received the loudest applause of the evening, tied with only Mamdani himself. Sanders spoke of the importance of electing Mamdani to the position of mayor not only for the sake of making the city more affordable, but also as a means to send a message to Trump and the billionaires he has in his circle.

    “Ordinary people get one vote,” Sanders said. “Meanwhile, billionaires get the opportunity to spend as much as they want to elect the candidates they want. That is the context in which this election is taking place.”

    New York governor Kathy Hochul was the only speaker met with mixed responses, with the audience frequently interrupting her speech to enthusiastically chant “Tax the rich!” Mamdani came out at the end of her speech to, quite literally, hold her hand, as if to show the audience the importance of her presence and endorsement.

    It was a big contrast to representative Ocasio-Cortez, who spoke just after Hochul and was met with the audience chanting her name.

    When it came time for Mamdani himself to take the stage, the crowd had been more than sufficiently hyped. As with the mayoral debatedays earlier, he did not hold back at taking jabs at Andrew Cuomo.

    Let our words ring so loud that Cuomo can hear them tonight in his $8,000-a-month apartment,” the Democratic candidate said. “Let them be so loud that he can hear them even if he’s in Westchester tonight.”

    But Mamdani did not dwell too long on Cuomo, instead dedicating the latter half of his speech to thanking the coalition who had supported him for the past several months and contributed to his record-breaking campaign.

    Perhaps the most evocative moment came towards the end, when he asked anyone in the crowd who had volunteered and canvassed for his campaign to turn on their lights. The crowd immediately lit up in a sea of bright phone lights, too many to count.

    “Our work has only just begun. On 4 November we set ourselves free,” Mamdani said in his closing words.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/27/our-work-has-only-just-begun-mamdani-sanders-and-aoc-rally-the-faithful-ahead-of-nyc-mayoral-election





  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,115

     * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    All Hamas, eh? BOO!

    Our work has only just begun’: Mamdani, Sanders and AOC rally the faithful ahead of NYC mayoral election

    Thousands pack Forest Hills stadium on Sunday night, voicing their excitement and hope for change

    Just over a week before New York City’s mayoral election on 4 November, about 13,000 people poured into Forest Hills stadium in Queens for the “NYC Is Not For Sale” rally, a packed gathering headlined by representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, senator Bernie Sanders and the Democratic mayoral candidate, assemblyman Zohran Mamdani.

    The historic open-air venue was filled to capacity. New Yorkers of all ages and backgrounds came together, but it was the Gen Z crowd that seemed to animate the atmosphere.

    Many there described the event as more than just a rally. It was a moment of unity, frustration and optimism all at once. For Hayley Miller, 23, of Briarwood, the motivation to attend was simple: “I’m here because the government sucks, to be honest with you … and I feel like we should make a change as a country, and New York City is definitely the place to start that.”

    For Spencer, 29, who lives nearby in Forest Hills, the energy of the event reflected something he hasn’t felt in local politics in a long time. “It’s exciting that someone who actually might change things is appearing in an area that I’m in,” he said. “If it’s here, it’s like, why not? If we’re not gonna be involved now, then when is the time?”

    Another Forest Hills resident, Emily, 29, shared a similar enthusiasm: “I think it’s exciting to be a part of this energy. We even went out to vote earlier today because we were getting in the mindset to be psyched for everything that he’s for.”

    The diversity of the crowd mirrored the city itself. Longtime residents, newcomers, young professionals and retirees all were present in the crowd. For Mitch, 68, from Astoria, it was his first rally of the campaign. “I’m here because, well, I want to hear what they have to say, and there’s no other viable candidates, in my opinion,” he said.

    For Mitch, the key issues facing NYC right now are “safety, the trains being safe, and affordability”, adding that while he’s skeptical about whether Mamdani can deliver on all his promises, he’s open-minded. “I don’t know who’s going to pay for all this stuff he wants done … but I’m going in open-minded, and just hoping somebody is offering some alternatives.”

    Brooklyn, 30, also from Astoria, said their top priorities were protecting LGBTQ rights and tackling the city’s affordability crisis. “I think Mamdani is doing a great job of addressing everything I’m concerned about,” they said.

    Nicole, 30, echoed that sentiment, praising Mamdani’s authenticity: “I feel like Mamdani is very genuine in his responses in a way that isn’t typically seen in most politicians. He’s a little less lip service-y than usual.”

    Mamdani had a clear message he was aiming to get across at the rally; diversity is NYC’s biggest strength. At one point, he had a rabbi, a reverend, and an imam all on stage together in support of his campaign. Brad Lander, the city’s comptroller and a former candidate in this election, also came out to endorse Mamdani.

    Sanders received the loudest applause of the evening, tied with only Mamdani himself. Sanders spoke of the importance of electing Mamdani to the position of mayor not only for the sake of making the city more affordable, but also as a means to send a message to Trump and the billionaires he has in his circle.

    “Ordinary people get one vote,” Sanders said. “Meanwhile, billionaires get the opportunity to spend as much as they want to elect the candidates they want. That is the context in which this election is taking place.”

    New York governor Kathy Hochul was the only speaker met with mixed responses, with the audience frequently interrupting her speech to enthusiastically chant “Tax the rich!” Mamdani came out at the end of her speech to, quite literally, hold her hand, as if to show the audience the importance of her presence and endorsement.

    It was a big contrast to representative Ocasio-Cortez, who spoke just after Hochul and was met with the audience chanting her name.

    When it came time for Mamdani himself to take the stage, the crowd had been more than sufficiently hyped. As with the mayoral debatedays earlier, he did not hold back at taking jabs at Andrew Cuomo.

    Let our words ring so loud that Cuomo can hear them tonight in his $8,000-a-month apartment,” the Democratic candidate said. “Let them be so loud that he can hear them even if he’s in Westchester tonight.”

    But Mamdani did not dwell too long on Cuomo, instead dedicating the latter half of his speech to thanking the coalition who had supported him for the past several months and contributed to his record-breaking campaign.

    Perhaps the most evocative moment came towards the end, when he asked anyone in the crowd who had volunteered and canvassed for his campaign to turn on their lights. The crowd immediately lit up in a sea of bright phone lights, too many to count.

    “Our work has only just begun. On 4 November we set ourselves free,” Mamdani said in his closing words.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/27/our-work-has-only-just-begun-mamdani-sanders-and-aoc-rally-the-faithful-ahead-of-nyc-mayoral-election





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    Hamas? Rupert from Hello Deli? Jeffry Epstein in disguise? Bernie’s butler?

    What was the command to AI to generate that meme? It’s got me wondering who he really is.

    BOO!

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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,444

     * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    All Hamas, eh? BOO!

    Our work has only just begun’: Mamdani, Sanders and AOC rally the faithful ahead of NYC mayoral election

    Thousands pack Forest Hills stadium on Sunday night, voicing their excitement and hope for change

    Just over a week before New York City’s mayoral election on 4 November, about 13,000 people poured into Forest Hills stadium in Queens for the “NYC Is Not For Sale” rally, a packed gathering headlined by representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, senator Bernie Sanders and the Democratic mayoral candidate, assemblyman Zohran Mamdani.

    The historic open-air venue was filled to capacity. New Yorkers of all ages and backgrounds came together, but it was the Gen Z crowd that seemed to animate the atmosphere.

    Many there described the event as more than just a rally. It was a moment of unity, frustration and optimism all at once. For Hayley Miller, 23, of Briarwood, the motivation to attend was simple: “I’m here because the government sucks, to be honest with you … and I feel like we should make a change as a country, and New York City is definitely the place to start that.”

    For Spencer, 29, who lives nearby in Forest Hills, the energy of the event reflected something he hasn’t felt in local politics in a long time. “It’s exciting that someone who actually might change things is appearing in an area that I’m in,” he said. “If it’s here, it’s like, why not? If we’re not gonna be involved now, then when is the time?”

    Another Forest Hills resident, Emily, 29, shared a similar enthusiasm: “I think it’s exciting to be a part of this energy. We even went out to vote earlier today because we were getting in the mindset to be psyched for everything that he’s for.”

    The diversity of the crowd mirrored the city itself. Longtime residents, newcomers, young professionals and retirees all were present in the crowd. For Mitch, 68, from Astoria, it was his first rally of the campaign. “I’m here because, well, I want to hear what they have to say, and there’s no other viable candidates, in my opinion,” he said.

    For Mitch, the key issues facing NYC right now are “safety, the trains being safe, and affordability”, adding that while he’s skeptical about whether Mamdani can deliver on all his promises, he’s open-minded. “I don’t know who’s going to pay for all this stuff he wants done … but I’m going in open-minded, and just hoping somebody is offering some alternatives.”

    Brooklyn, 30, also from Astoria, said their top priorities were protecting LGBTQ rights and tackling the city’s affordability crisis. “I think Mamdani is doing a great job of addressing everything I’m concerned about,” they said.

    Nicole, 30, echoed that sentiment, praising Mamdani’s authenticity: “I feel like Mamdani is very genuine in his responses in a way that isn’t typically seen in most politicians. He’s a little less lip service-y than usual.”

    Mamdani had a clear message he was aiming to get across at the rally; diversity is NYC’s biggest strength. At one point, he had a rabbi, a reverend, and an imam all on stage together in support of his campaign. Brad Lander, the city’s comptroller and a former candidate in this election, also came out to endorse Mamdani.

    Sanders received the loudest applause of the evening, tied with only Mamdani himself. Sanders spoke of the importance of electing Mamdani to the position of mayor not only for the sake of making the city more affordable, but also as a means to send a message to Trump and the billionaires he has in his circle.

    “Ordinary people get one vote,” Sanders said. “Meanwhile, billionaires get the opportunity to spend as much as they want to elect the candidates they want. That is the context in which this election is taking place.”

    New York governor Kathy Hochul was the only speaker met with mixed responses, with the audience frequently interrupting her speech to enthusiastically chant “Tax the rich!” Mamdani came out at the end of her speech to, quite literally, hold her hand, as if to show the audience the importance of her presence and endorsement.

    It was a big contrast to representative Ocasio-Cortez, who spoke just after Hochul and was met with the audience chanting her name.

    When it came time for Mamdani himself to take the stage, the crowd had been more than sufficiently hyped. As with the mayoral debatedays earlier, he did not hold back at taking jabs at Andrew Cuomo.

    Let our words ring so loud that Cuomo can hear them tonight in his $8,000-a-month apartment,” the Democratic candidate said. “Let them be so loud that he can hear them even if he’s in Westchester tonight.”

    But Mamdani did not dwell too long on Cuomo, instead dedicating the latter half of his speech to thanking the coalition who had supported him for the past several months and contributed to his record-breaking campaign.

    Perhaps the most evocative moment came towards the end, when he asked anyone in the crowd who had volunteered and canvassed for his campaign to turn on their lights. The crowd immediately lit up in a sea of bright phone lights, too many to count.

    “Our work has only just begun. On 4 November we set ourselves free,” Mamdani said in his closing words.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/27/our-work-has-only-just-begun-mamdani-sanders-and-aoc-rally-the-faithful-ahead-of-nyc-mayoral-election





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  • gimmesometruth27
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    "they are who we thought they were. and we let 'em off the hook!!"
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  • static111
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    edited 2:29PM

     * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    All Hamas, eh? BOO!

    Our work has only just begun’: Mamdani, Sanders and AOC rally the faithful ahead of NYC mayoral election

    Thousands pack Forest Hills stadium on Sunday night, voicing their excitement and hope for change

    Just over a week before New York City’s mayoral election on 4 November, about 13,000 people poured into Forest Hills stadium in Queens for the “NYC Is Not For Sale” rally, a packed gathering headlined by representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, senator Bernie Sanders and the Democratic mayoral candidate, assemblyman Zohran Mamdani.

    The historic open-air venue was filled to capacity. New Yorkers of all ages and backgrounds came together, but it was the Gen Z crowd that seemed to animate the atmosphere.

    Many there described the event as more than just a rally. It was a moment of unity, frustration and optimism all at once. For Hayley Miller, 23, of Briarwood, the motivation to attend was simple: “I’m here because the government sucks, to be honest with you … and I feel like we should make a change as a country, and New York City is definitely the place to start that.”

    For Spencer, 29, who lives nearby in Forest Hills, the energy of the event reflected something he hasn’t felt in local politics in a long time. “It’s exciting that someone who actually might change things is appearing in an area that I’m in,” he said. “If it’s here, it’s like, why not? If we’re not gonna be involved now, then when is the time?”

    Another Forest Hills resident, Emily, 29, shared a similar enthusiasm: “I think it’s exciting to be a part of this energy. We even went out to vote earlier today because we were getting in the mindset to be psyched for everything that he’s for.”

    The diversity of the crowd mirrored the city itself. Longtime residents, newcomers, young professionals and retirees all were present in the crowd. For Mitch, 68, from Astoria, it was his first rally of the campaign. “I’m here because, well, I want to hear what they have to say, and there’s no other viable candidates, in my opinion,” he said.

    For Mitch, the key issues facing NYC right now are “safety, the trains being safe, and affordability”, adding that while he’s skeptical about whether Mamdani can deliver on all his promises, he’s open-minded. “I don’t know who’s going to pay for all this stuff he wants done … but I’m going in open-minded, and just hoping somebody is offering some alternatives.”

    Brooklyn, 30, also from Astoria, said their top priorities were protecting LGBTQ rights and tackling the city’s affordability crisis. “I think Mamdani is doing a great job of addressing everything I’m concerned about,” they said.

    Nicole, 30, echoed that sentiment, praising Mamdani’s authenticity: “I feel like Mamdani is very genuine in his responses in a way that isn’t typically seen in most politicians. He’s a little less lip service-y than usual.”

    Mamdani had a clear message he was aiming to get across at the rally; diversity is NYC’s biggest strength. At one point, he had a rabbi, a reverend, and an imam all on stage together in support of his campaign. Brad Lander, the city’s comptroller and a former candidate in this election, also came out to endorse Mamdani.

    Sanders received the loudest applause of the evening, tied with only Mamdani himself. Sanders spoke of the importance of electing Mamdani to the position of mayor not only for the sake of making the city more affordable, but also as a means to send a message to Trump and the billionaires he has in his circle.

    “Ordinary people get one vote,” Sanders said. “Meanwhile, billionaires get the opportunity to spend as much as they want to elect the candidates they want. That is the context in which this election is taking place.”

    New York governor Kathy Hochul was the only speaker met with mixed responses, with the audience frequently interrupting her speech to enthusiastically chant “Tax the rich!” Mamdani came out at the end of her speech to, quite literally, hold her hand, as if to show the audience the importance of her presence and endorsement.

    It was a big contrast to representative Ocasio-Cortez, who spoke just after Hochul and was met with the audience chanting her name.

    When it came time for Mamdani himself to take the stage, the crowd had been more than sufficiently hyped. As with the mayoral debatedays earlier, he did not hold back at taking jabs at Andrew Cuomo.

    Let our words ring so loud that Cuomo can hear them tonight in his $8,000-a-month apartment,” the Democratic candidate said. “Let them be so loud that he can hear them even if he’s in Westchester tonight.”

    But Mamdani did not dwell too long on Cuomo, instead dedicating the latter half of his speech to thanking the coalition who had supported him for the past several months and contributed to his record-breaking campaign.

    Perhaps the most evocative moment came towards the end, when he asked anyone in the crowd who had volunteered and canvassed for his campaign to turn on their lights. The crowd immediately lit up in a sea of bright phone lights, too many to count.

    “Our work has only just begun. On 4 November we set ourselves free,” Mamdani said in his closing words.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/27/our-work-has-only-just-begun-mamdani-sanders-and-aoc-rally-the-faithful-ahead-of-nyc-mayoral-election





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    Our work has only just begun’: Mamdani, Sanders and AOC rally the faithful ahead of NYC mayoral election

    Thousands pack Forest Hills stadium on Sunday night, voicing their excitement and hope for change

    Just over a week before New York City’s mayoral election on 4 November, about 13,000 people poured into Forest Hills stadium in Queens for the “NYC Is Not For Sale” rally, a packed gathering headlined by representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, senator Bernie Sanders and the Democratic mayoral candidate, assemblyman Zohran Mamdani.

    The historic open-air venue was filled to capacity. New Yorkers of all ages and backgrounds came together, but it was the Gen Z crowd that seemed to animate the atmosphere.

    Many there described the event as more than just a rally. It was a moment of unity, frustration and optimism all at once. For Hayley Miller, 23, of Briarwood, the motivation to attend was simple: “I’m here because the government sucks, to be honest with you … and I feel like we should make a change as a country, and New York City is definitely the place to start that.”

    For Spencer, 29, who lives nearby in Forest Hills, the energy of the event reflected something he hasn’t felt in local politics in a long time. “It’s exciting that someone who actually might change things is appearing in an area that I’m in,” he said. “If it’s here, it’s like, why not? If we’re not gonna be involved now, then when is the time?”

    Another Forest Hills resident, Emily, 29, shared a similar enthusiasm: “I think it’s exciting to be a part of this energy. We even went out to vote earlier today because we were getting in the mindset to be psyched for everything that he’s for.”

    The diversity of the crowd mirrored the city itself. Longtime residents, newcomers, young professionals and retirees all were present in the crowd. For Mitch, 68, from Astoria, it was his first rally of the campaign. “I’m here because, well, I want to hear what they have to say, and there’s no other viable candidates, in my opinion,” he said.

    For Mitch, the key issues facing NYC right now are “safety, the trains being safe, and affordability”, adding that while he’s skeptical about whether Mamdani can deliver on all his promises, he’s open-minded. “I don’t know who’s going to pay for all this stuff he wants done … but I’m going in open-minded, and just hoping somebody is offering some alternatives.”

    Brooklyn, 30, also from Astoria, said their top priorities were protecting LGBTQ rights and tackling the city’s affordability crisis. “I think Mamdani is doing a great job of addressing everything I’m concerned about,” they said.

    Nicole, 30, echoed that sentiment, praising Mamdani’s authenticity: “I feel like Mamdani is very genuine in his responses in a way that isn’t typically seen in most politicians. He’s a little less lip service-y than usual.”

    Mamdani had a clear message he was aiming to get across at the rally; diversity is NYC’s biggest strength. At one point, he had a rabbi, a reverend, and an imam all on stage together in support of his campaign. Brad Lander, the city’s comptroller and a former candidate in this election, also came out to endorse Mamdani.

    Sanders received the loudest applause of the evening, tied with only Mamdani himself. Sanders spoke of the importance of electing Mamdani to the position of mayor not only for the sake of making the city more affordable, but also as a means to send a message to Trump and the billionaires he has in his circle.

    “Ordinary people get one vote,” Sanders said. “Meanwhile, billionaires get the opportunity to spend as much as they want to elect the candidates they want. That is the context in which this election is taking place.”

    New York governor Kathy Hochul was the only speaker met with mixed responses, with the audience frequently interrupting her speech to enthusiastically chant “Tax the rich!” Mamdani came out at the end of her speech to, quite literally, hold her hand, as if to show the audience the importance of her presence and endorsement.

    It was a big contrast to representative Ocasio-Cortez, who spoke just after Hochul and was met with the audience chanting her name.

    When it came time for Mamdani himself to take the stage, the crowd had been more than sufficiently hyped. As with the mayoral debatedays earlier, he did not hold back at taking jabs at Andrew Cuomo.

    Let our words ring so loud that Cuomo can hear them tonight in his $8,000-a-month apartment,” the Democratic candidate said. “Let them be so loud that he can hear them even if he’s in Westchester tonight.”

    But Mamdani did not dwell too long on Cuomo, instead dedicating the latter half of his speech to thanking the coalition who had supported him for the past several months and contributed to his record-breaking campaign.

    Perhaps the most evocative moment came towards the end, when he asked anyone in the crowd who had volunteered and canvassed for his campaign to turn on their lights. The crowd immediately lit up in a sea of bright phone lights, too many to count.

    “Our work has only just begun. On 4 November we set ourselves free,” Mamdani said in his closing words.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/27/our-work-has-only-just-begun-mamdani-sanders-and-aoc-rally-the-faithful-ahead-of-nyc-mayoral-election





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