Ankle-biting Democrats

Tim Simmons

My reasoning for posting that polling is to show Harris is still very well liked so shitting on her for thinking of running again is misguided seeing as she is the most well known and liked person of the names being polled. 

It makes sense that Mamdani is less liked (though really more unknown) nationally because he is not a national politician.

gimmesometruth27

Tim Simmons said:

My reasoning for posting that polling is to show Harris is still very well liked so shitting on her for thinking of running again is misguided seeing as she is the most well known and liked person of the names being polled. 

It makes sense that Mamdani is less liked (though really more unknown) nationally because he is not a national politician.

mamdani is less liked because the gop playbook of shitting on anybody with the big S word associated with them has been effective in keeping dems from running people like him, like how the dnc sabotaged bernie in 2016.

the dems need to stop listening to the republic party. 

Gern Blansten

trump and Co are trying to get Mamdani removed from the ballot for improper citizenry I guess

who would have guessed?

Lerxst1992

Tim Simmons said:

My reasoning for posting that polling is to show Harris is still very well liked so shitting on her for thinking of running again is misguided seeing as she is the most well known and liked person of the names being polled. 

It makes sense that Mamdani is less liked (though really more unknown) nationally because he is not a national politician.

Favorability polls only factor people who are familiar with the politician

Lerxst1992

gimmesometruth27 said:

Tim Simmons said:

My reasoning for posting that polling is to show Harris is still very well liked so shitting on her for thinking of running again is misguided seeing as she is the most well known and liked person of the names being polled. 

It makes sense that Mamdani is less liked (though really more unknown) nationally because he is not a national politician.

mamdani is less liked because the gop playbook of shitting on anybody with the big S word associated with them has been effective in keeping dems from running people like him, like how the dnc sabotaged bernie in 2016.

the dems need to stop listening to the republic party. 

Where is there any proof in the last 15 years that a socialist candidate can do anything Statewide in a purple or red state?

At least be realistic if mamdani had any chance at anything outside of New York State there would be a little bit of respect for his candidacy. If anything he's going to draw in a lot of Republican hate from POTUS, which New York city does not need.

Tim Simmons

there hasn't been because the democratic establishment has kept them from winning. Mamdani is gonna win. This may be a great test case. 

Tim Simmons

But again. Its not about replicating Mamdani in purple states. Its about replicating his populism and approach in those states. 

Sometimes its not about free public transport. Maybe its about broadband investment in rural communities. Its not about creating a cookie cutter, about making sure the cookies are available.  

Halifax2TheMax

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I guess Dems aren’t allowed to run in local races, from small towns to big cities, unless they have appeal beyond that, even nationally? Otherwise, no point in respecting their accomplishments, like unseating incumbents or winning primaries. What a crock of shit.

BOO!

Lerxst1992

Tim Simmons said:

there hasn't been because the democratic establishment has kept them from winning. Mamdani is gonna win. This may be a great test case. 

Great , you pay these taxes

Lerxst1992

Tim Simmons said:

But again. Its not about replicating Mamdani in purple states. Its about replicating his populism and approach in those states. 

Sometimes its not about free public transport. Maybe its about broadband investment in rural communities. Its not about creating a cookie cutter, about making sure the cookies are available.  

He's promising people solutions to problems at below cost. Providing Broadband in rural communities is expensive. Providing housing within the city of New York is expensive...if you try to legislate this locally people have easy solutions to cut their taxes.

 The only reason he is going to be mayor is because he won a primary, even though the primary had good turnout, still very few people vote in June.

 It's the same reason we have Congress people like Marjorie Taylor Green. Primaries produce extremist candidates. I wouldn't celebrate that unless we are going to have a party with Marjorie together on the next PJ tour.

gimmesometruth27

Gern Blansten said:

trump and Co are trying to get Mamdani removed from the ballot for improper citizenry I guess

who would have guessed?

if you can't beat em, get em disqualified.

we saw him do it with obama before with the birth certificate.

why is trump even allowed to chime in on a state election?

gimmesometruth27

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

trump and Co are trying to get Mamdani removed from the ballot for improper citizenry I guess

who would have guessed?

if you can't beat em, get em disqualified.

we saw him do it with obama before with the birth certificate.

why is trump even allowed to chime in on a state election?

this reminds me of an old onion headline from like 2013 that just said "trump unable to provide a certificate stating that he is not a festering piece of shit."

Tim Simmons

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

But again. Its not about replicating Mamdani in purple states. Its about replicating his populism and approach in those states. 

Sometimes its not about free public transport. Maybe its about broadband investment in rural communities. Its not about creating a cookie cutter, about making sure the cookies are available.  

He's promising people solutions to problems at below cost. Providing Broadband in rural communities is expensive. Providing housing within the city of New York is expensive...if you try to legislate this locally people have easy solutions to cut their taxes.

 The only reason he is going to be mayor is because he won a primary, even though the primary had good turnout, still very few people vote in June.

 It's the same reason we have Congress people like Marjorie Taylor Green. Primaries produce extremist candidates. I wouldn't celebrate that unless we are going to have a party with Marjorie together on the next PJ tour.

I would argue we don't get extremist candidates unless their message is reverberating. Regardless of turnout numbers, they won their primary/election. it resonated with somebody. 







 

Tim Simmons

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

there hasn't been because the democratic establishment has kept them from winning. Mamdani is gonna win. This may be a great test case. 

Great , you pay these taxes

they want to stuff like this in Illinois, I will. We do this federally, I will. 


Its not about ME. its about US.

Tim Simmons

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Gern Blansten

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

But again. Its not about replicating Mamdani in purple states. Its about replicating his populism and approach in those states. 

Sometimes its not about free public transport. Maybe its about broadband investment in rural communities. Its not about creating a cookie cutter, about making sure the cookies are available.  

He's promising people solutions to problems at below cost. Providing Broadband in rural communities is expensive. Providing housing within the city of New York is expensive...if you try to legislate this locally people have easy solutions to cut their taxes.

 The only reason he is going to be mayor is because he won a primary, even though the primary had good turnout, still very few people vote in June.

 It's the same reason we have Congress people like Marjorie Taylor Green. Primaries produce extremist candidates. I wouldn't celebrate that unless we are going to have a party with Marjorie together on the next PJ tour.

There are rural areas of NYC? 

Tim Simmons

That’s in reference to me saying how you build a Mandan elsewhere in america

gimmesometruth27

there are fewer maga in nyc. the maga message does not resonate there. now they want to keep the guy that resonates with the people off the ballot. sounds about right.


someone said "all politics is local". maybe maga should try to resonate in nyc more rather than keep the likely winner off the ballot.

Halifax2TheMax

 * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

All Hamas, eh? BOO!

Our work has only just begun’: Mamdani, Sanders and AOC rally the faithful ahead of NYC mayoral election

Thousands pack Forest Hills stadium on Sunday night, voicing their excitement and hope for change

Just over a week before New York City’s mayoral election on 4 November, about 13,000 people poured into Forest Hills stadium in Queens for the “NYC Is Not For Sale” rally, a packed gathering headlined by representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, senator Bernie Sanders and the Democratic mayoral candidate, assemblyman Zohran Mamdani.

The historic open-air venue was filled to capacity. New Yorkers of all ages and backgrounds came together, but it was the Gen Z crowd that seemed to animate the atmosphere.

Many there described the event as more than just a rally. It was a moment of unity, frustration and optimism all at once. For Hayley Miller, 23, of Briarwood, the motivation to attend was simple: “I’m here because the government sucks, to be honest with you … and I feel like we should make a change as a country, and New York City is definitely the place to start that.”

For Spencer, 29, who lives nearby in Forest Hills, the energy of the event reflected something he hasn’t felt in local politics in a long time. “It’s exciting that someone who actually might change things is appearing in an area that I’m in,” he said. “If it’s here, it’s like, why not? If we’re not gonna be involved now, then when is the time?”

Another Forest Hills resident, Emily, 29, shared a similar enthusiasm: “I think it’s exciting to be a part of this energy. We even went out to vote earlier today because we were getting in the mindset to be psyched for everything that he’s for.”

The diversity of the crowd mirrored the city itself. Longtime residents, newcomers, young professionals and retirees all were present in the crowd. For Mitch, 68, from Astoria, it was his first rally of the campaign. “I’m here because, well, I want to hear what they have to say, and there’s no other viable candidates, in my opinion,” he said.

For Mitch, the key issues facing NYC right now are “safety, the trains being safe, and affordability”, adding that while he’s skeptical about whether Mamdani can deliver on all his promises, he’s open-minded. “I don’t know who’s going to pay for all this stuff he wants done … but I’m going in open-minded, and just hoping somebody is offering some alternatives.”

Brooklyn, 30, also from Astoria, said their top priorities were protecting LGBTQ rights and tackling the city’s affordability crisis. “I think Mamdani is doing a great job of addressing everything I’m concerned about,” they said.

Nicole, 30, echoed that sentiment, praising Mamdani’s authenticity: “I feel like Mamdani is very genuine in his responses in a way that isn’t typically seen in most politicians. He’s a little less lip service-y than usual.”

Mamdani had a clear message he was aiming to get across at the rally; diversity is NYC’s biggest strength. At one point, he had a rabbi, a reverend, and an imam all on stage together in support of his campaign. Brad Lander, the city’s comptroller and a former candidate in this election, also came out to endorse Mamdani.

Sanders received the loudest applause of the evening, tied with only Mamdani himself. Sanders spoke of the importance of electing Mamdani to the position of mayor not only for the sake of making the city more affordable, but also as a means to send a message to Trump and the billionaires he has in his circle.

“Ordinary people get one vote,” Sanders said. “Meanwhile, billionaires get the opportunity to spend as much as they want to elect the candidates they want. That is the context in which this election is taking place.”

New York governor Kathy Hochul was the only speaker met with mixed responses, with the audience frequently interrupting her speech to enthusiastically chant “Tax the rich!” Mamdani came out at the end of her speech to, quite literally, hold her hand, as if to show the audience the importance of her presence and endorsement.

It was a big contrast to representative Ocasio-Cortez, who spoke just after Hochul and was met with the audience chanting her name.

When it came time for Mamdani himself to take the stage, the crowd had been more than sufficiently hyped. As with the mayoral debatedays earlier, he did not hold back at taking jabs at Andrew Cuomo.

“Let our words ring so loud that Cuomo can hear them tonight in his $8,000-a-month apartment,” the Democratic candidate said. “Let them be so loud that he can hear them even if he’s in Westchester tonight.”

But Mamdani did not dwell too long on Cuomo, instead dedicating the latter half of his speech to thanking the coalition who had supported him for the past several months and contributed to his record-breaking campaign.

Perhaps the most evocative moment came towards the end, when he asked anyone in the crowd who had volunteered and canvassed for his campaign to turn on their lights. The crowd immediately lit up in a sea of bright phone lights, too many to count.

“Our work has only just begun. On 4 November we set ourselves free,” Mamdani said in his closing words.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/27/our-work-has-only-just-begun-mamdani-sanders-and-aoc-rally-the-faithful-ahead-of-nyc-mayoral-election

Lerxst1992

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

there hasn't been because the democratic establishment has kept them from winning. Mamdani is gonna win. This may be a great test case. 

Great , you pay these taxes

they want to stuff like this in Illinois, I will. We do this federally, I will. 


It’s not about ME. it’s about US.

I agree but a politicians first job is to figure out how to win elections, before trying to sell their utopian ideas that may shock the majority of voters.