Racial Slurrs .

josevolution

i need some input on this people and please i need parents input ,my 13 yr old son today was called a few racial slurrs in school today. i'm spanish my wife american that makes him 1/2 chilean and he was born here he's in 6th grade, the names he was called were mexican nigger & spic and he reacted and 1 thing led to another he had to fight 1 of the kids and in turn got inschool suspension ,i'm livid this the second time he has complained to me about this kind of problem my ? what steps to take at this time if any, i did talk to the assistant principle today and i should say that the other kid who he fought with did get the same kind of inschool suspension .but not the kid who actually called him names since he wasn't the kid my son hit .........

sonicreducer

josevolution wrote:

i need some input on this people and please i need parents input ,my 13 yr old son today was called a few racial slurrs in school today. i'm spanish my wife american that makes him 1/2 chilean and he was born here he's in 6th grade, the names he was called were mexican nigger & spic and he reacted and 1 thing led to another he had to fight 1 of the kids and in turn got inschool suspension ,i'm livid this the second time he has complained to me about this kind of problem my ? what steps to take at this time if any, i did talk to the assistant principle today and i should say that the other kid who he fought with did get the same kind of inschool suspension .but not the kid who actually called him names since he wasn't the kid my son hit .........

what city do you live in?

Abuskedti

josevolution wrote:

i need some input on this people and please i need parents input ,my 13 yr old son today was called a few racial slurrs in school today. i'm spanish my wife american that makes him 1/2 chilean and he was born here he's in 6th grade, the names he was called were mexican nigger & spic and he reacted and 1 thing led to another he had to fight 1 of the kids and in turn got inschool suspension ,i'm livid this the second time he has complained to me about this kind of problem my ? what steps to take at this time if any, i did talk to the assistant principle today and i should say that the other kid who he fought with did get the same kind of inschool suspension .but not the kid who actually called him names since he wasn't the kid my son hit .........

Don't be livid.. your son picks that up. Fighting is never the answer - though sometimes a fight can be hard to avoid. You have to help your son understand alot of things in this situation.. Look upon it as a good thing.. an opportunity to teach your son - and to communicate with him.

In my opinion, the racism involved is the smallest issue. these are kids doing what they do - while it is surely inappropriate 6th graders experiment with all kinds of insults... they are just kids learning - don't feel so much that you have to teach the other kids a lesson - focus on your sons learning - that is where you have the most influence

ThumbingMyWay32

josevolution wrote:

i need some input on this people and please i need parents input ,my 13 yr old son today was called a few racial slurrs in school today. i'm spanish my wife american that makes him 1/2 chilean and he was born here he's in 6th grade, the names he was called were mexican nigger & spic and he reacted and 1 thing led to another he had to fight 1 of the kids and in turn got inschool suspension ,i'm livid this the second time he has complained to me about this kind of problem my ? what steps to take at this time if any, i did talk to the assistant principle today and i should say that the other kid who he fought with did get the same kind of inschool suspension .but not the kid who actually called him names since he wasn't the kid my son hit .........

Sounds to me your son did the right thing. Someone called him a racially insensative name and he decked the kid. It's called standing up for yourself. It's called not getting pushed around. I'm willing to bet it will be the last time anyone calls him anything racially insensative, atleast while he's at school. It most certainly will boost his ego and gain some respect amongst his peers. Oh, and confidence.

Then again, I'm just a 24 year old nitwit. So anything I say can't be taken seriously. Just don't let folks tell ya he's going to turn into a thug and a murderer.

Also, I would be pretty ticked off myself over the kid who made the remarks getting off the hook. You should certainly let the school know "how you feel" about that.

JOEJOEJOE

josevolution wrote:

i need some input on this people and please i need parents input ,my 13 yr old son today was called a few racial slurrs in school today. i'm spanish my wife american that makes him 1/2 chilean and he was born here he's in 6th grade, the names he was called were mexican nigger & spic and he reacted and 1 thing led to another he had to fight 1 of the kids and in turn got inschool suspension ,i'm livid this the second time he has complained to me about this kind of problem my ? what steps to take at this time if any, i did talk to the assistant principle today and i should say that the other kid who he fought with did get the same kind of inschool suspension .but not the kid who actually called him names since he wasn't the kid my son hit .........

insist that the slurer go through some sort of sensativity training.

They should try to educate him/her, and if that doesn't work, then they should suspend him!

josevolution

sonicreducer wrote:

what city do you live in?

sad to say here on long island ,town named SMITHTOWN

wolfbear

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

insist that the slurer go through some sort of sensativity training.

They should try to educate him/her, and if that doesn't work, then they should suspend him!

I would agree with this. This just makes me sad. :(

josevolution

Abuskedti wrote:

Don't be livid.. your son picks that up. Fighting is never the answer - though sometimes a fight can be hard to avoid. You have to help your son understand alot of things in this situation.. Look upon it as a good thing.. an opportunity to teach your son - and to communicate with him.

In my opinion, the racism involved is the smallest issue. these are kids doing what they do - while it is surely inappropriate 6th graders experiment with all kinds of insults... they are just kids learning - don't feel so much that you have to teach the other kids a lesson - focus on your sons learning - that is where you have the most influence

i hear you, do you have kids it's just that this is the 2nd time a fight has occured because of racial names being directed at him ....

hippiemom

Abuskedti wrote:

Don't be livid.. your son picks that up. Fighting is never the answer - though sometimes a fight can be hard to avoid. You have to help your son understand alot of things in this situation.. Look upon it as a good thing.. an opportunity to teach your son - and to communicate with him.

In my opinion, the racism involved is the smallest issue. these are kids doing what they do - while it is surely inappropriate 6th graders experiment with all kinds of insults... they are just kids learning - don't feel so much that you have to teach the other kids a lesson - focus on your sons learning - that is where you have the most influence

Good advice.

Kids that age will make fun of each other over anything and everything. If he wasn't Hispanic, it would be his height or his weight or his hair or his nose or the clothes he wears or the way he runs or the house he lives in or the car his dad drives ......

I disagree with ThumbingMyWay32. I don't particularly care that the kid making the racist remarks got punched in the face. If you run around making remarks like that, eventually someone will hit you. But I don't think that's the last time anyone will do it. On the contrary, now they know it gets to him so it's a sore spot they can pick at. Unless he totally cleaned that kid's clock to the point where everyone is terrified, I think it's MORE likely to happen again because now they know how to push his buttons, and that's what middle school kids excel at.

josevolution

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

insist that the slurer go through some sort of sensativity training.

They should try to educate him/her, and if that doesn't work, then they should suspend him!

yes the school is closed tommorrow but i'm heading there first thing on friday to talk again to the asst principle .

sonicreducer

i think Abuskedti about summed it up.

josevolution

hippiemom wrote:

Good advice.

Kids that age will make fun of each other over anything and everything. If he wasn't Hispanic, it would be his height or his weight or his hair or his nose or the clothes he wears or the way he runs or the house he lives in or the car his dad drives ......

I disagree with ThumbingMyWay32. I don't particularly care that the kid making the racist remarks got punched in the face. If you run around making remarks like that, eventually someone will hit you. But I don't think that's the last time anyone will do it. On the contrary, now they know it gets to him so it's a sore spot they can pick at. Unless he totally cleaned that kid's clock to the point where everyone is terrified, I think it's MORE likely to happen again because now they know how to push his buttons, and that's what middle school kids excel at.

he did say that he believes it will happen again and if you saw him he looks totally american no sing of spanish except his name noW im hating my self for giving him the name wich i find to be beautifull , MATIAS .....

ThumbingMyWay32

hippiemom wrote:

Good advice.

Kids that age will make fun of each other over anything and everything. If he wasn't Hispanic, it would be his height or his weight or his hair or his nose or the clothes he wears or the way he runs or the house he lives in or the car his dad drives ......

I disagree with ThumbingMyWay32. I don't particularly care that the kid making the racist remarks got punched in the face. If you run around making remarks like that, eventually someone will hit you. But I don't think that's the last time anyone will do it. On the contrary, now they know it gets to him so it's a sore spot they can pick at. Unless he totally cleaned that kid's clock to the point where everyone is terrified, I think it's MORE likely to happen again because now they know how to push his buttons, and that's what middle school kids excel at.

I didn't intend it to mean that he should run around punching every kid that makes fun of him. Rather I think kids at times need a reality check.

"Fighting is never the answer - though sometimes a fight can be hard to avoid. You have to help your son understand alot of things in this situation.. Look upon it as a good thing.. an opportunity to teach your son - and to communicate with him."

Essentially saying that he shouldn't be chided simply because of the fist fight. Sure, he doesn't need to be running around starting fights at the drop of a hat, but he should atleast get a firm hug for standing up to someone being a total prick. The first thing I would have thought about if some kid would have said that to me would have been my mother and father. And for that very reason, he would have probably received a swift knock to the jaw. I see a big difference in derogatory statements such as those and simply being called ugly, fat, short, stupid etc etc...

josevolution

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

I didn't intend it to mean that he should run around punching every kid that makes fun of him. Rather I think kids at times need a reality check.

"Fighting is never the answer - though sometimes a fight can be hard to avoid. You have to help your son understand alot of things in this situation.. Look upon it as a good thing.. an opportunity to teach your son - and to communicate with him."

Essentially saying that he shouldn't be chided simply because of the fist fight. Sure, he doesn't need to be running around starting fights at the drop of a hat, but he should atleast get a firm hug for standing up to someone being a total prick. The first thing I would have thought about if some kid would have said to me would have been my mother and father. And for that very reason, he would have probably received a swift knock to the jaw. I see a big difference in derogatory statements such as those and simply being called ugly, fat, short, stupid etc etc...

no i know what you mean and he only hit the the kid after the kid pushed him against his locker and actually punched him first. and i told him to take no shit from these kids if he gets punched pushed shoved or kicked to hit back that he does know ........it just sucks i never ever use any curse words or racial slurrs at all ........

hippiemom

josevolution wrote:

no i know what you mean and he only hit the the kid after the kid pushed him against his locker and actually punched him first. and i told him to take no shit from these kids if he gets punched pushed shoved or kicked to hit back that he does know ........it just sucks i never ever use any curse words or racial slurrs at all ........

Well that's entirely different. As soon as it got physical, he certainly had every right to defend himself. I hope the little racist punk came out of it in worse shape than your son.

My daughter got suspended once for shoving some little brat who repeatedly flipped her skirt up after being asked to stop numerous times. I didn't feel that was deserving of punishment, so I took the day off and we made a holiday of it

The school should definitely be taking steps to control this situation. Racism (and sexism) should not be tolerated. The kid who set the whole thing off with his comments should absolutely have been suspended.

mammasan

josevolution wrote:

he did say that he believes it will happen again and if you saw him he looks totally american no sing of spanish except his name noW im hating my self for giving him the name wich i find to be beautifull , MATIAS .....

Don't be ashamed of giving your son that name. I believe that abu has the best idea on how to handle the situation. i would also talk to your son and reinforce in him that he should be proud of who he is and of his diverse heritage.

josevolution

hippiemom wrote:

Well that's entirely different. As soon as it got physical, he certainly had every right to defend himself. I hope the little racist punk came out of it in worse shape than your son.

My daughter got suspended once for shoving some little brat who repeatedly flipped her skirt up after being asked to stop numerous times. I didn't feel that was deserving of punishment, so I took the day off and we made a holiday of it

The school should definitely be taking steps to control this situation. Racism (and sexism) should not be tolerated. The kid who set the whole thing off with his comments should absolutely have been suspended.

i thank you for the input and yes that is what has me twisted is that the kid who started with the racial name calling did not get punished and i didn't know that till i got home and spoke to my son face to face so i'm totally pissed at the assistant principle that is why i'm heading over there this friday to get a better explanation of this. arghhh arghhhh at least i can vent here thanks people........

TrixieCat

You need to talk with the Asst and straighten this out. A young racist only turns into an old one. This shit should not be tolerated in 2007. I am so sick of hearing stories like this and people saying to just sweep it under the mat and hope for the best.
Yes, children will always pick on each other for this and that. But to call a child a spic and a Mexican nigger is so beyond wrong.
Please keep us informed.

angelica

mammasan wrote:

Don't be ashamed of giving your son that name. I believe that abu has the best idea on how to handle the situation. i would also talk to your son and reinforce in him that he should be proud of who he is and of his diverse heritage.

I agree. I recommend that you take the time to feel all your feelings--let them come up: your rage, shame and everything. Feel them and let them go. And then follow the good advice of the wise people in this thread. You can use this as a learning experience and to teach your son how to be a wonderful young man, who is proud of his diverse cultural heritage. You can turn it into a meaningful life experience for your son.

josevolution

TrixieCat wrote:

You need to talk with the Asst and straighten this out. A young racist only turns into an old one. This shit should not be tolerated in 2007. I am so sick of hearing stories like this and people saying to just sweep it under the mat and hope for the best.
Yes, children will always pick on each other for this and that. But to call a child a spic and a Mexican nigger is so beyond wrong.
Please keep us informed.

will do and today was the first day of his new gym class and that is how this one kid greeted him we had to change his schedule around a bit but i won't go into that matter, but thanks for caring to respond .........

josevolution

angelica wrote:

I agree. I recommend that you take the time to feel all your feelings--let them come up: your rage, shame and everything. Feel them and let them go. And then follow the good advice of the wise people in this thread. You can use this as a learning experience and to teach your son how to be a wonderful young man, who is proud of his diverse cultural heritage. You can turn it into a meaningful life experience for your son.

that is totally what i will try to do and he really is a beautyfull young man but that is how i see it he is my son and i know he is not an angel but i do know he would never call anybody racial slurrs...