Unprecedented Muslim call for peace with Christians

jlew24asu

FINALLY lets make it happen!!! maybe within the next 3 years Israel-Palestine can come to a land agreement and US will leave Iraq..and I'll finally get to go visit Babylon and Jerusalem . so much history to see.

good job muslim scholars. bold move against the extremists


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071011/ts_nm/religion_scholars_dc

LONDON (Reuters) - More than 130 Muslim scholars from around the globe called on Thursday for peace and understanding between Islam and Christianity, saying "the very survival of the world itself is perhaps at stake."
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In an unprecedented letter to Pope Benedict and other Christian leaders, 138 Muslim scholars said finding common ground between the world's biggest faiths was not simply a matter for polite dialogue between religious leaders.

"If Muslims and Christians are not at peace, the world cannot be at peace. With the terrible weaponry of the modern world; with Muslims and Christians intertwined everywhere as never before, no side can unilaterally win a conflict between more than half of the world's inhabitants," the scholars wrote.

"Our common future is at stake. The very survival of the world itself is perhaps at stake," they wrote, adding that Islam and Christianity already agreed that love of God and neighbor were the two most important commandments of their faiths.

Relations between Muslims and Christians have been strained as al Qaeda has struck around the world and as the United States and other Western countries intervened in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Such a joint letter is unprecedented in Islam, which has no central authority that speaks on behalf of all worshippers.

Cosmo

It works both ways.
I think the only way it'll ever work is if all religions accept all other religions. I think if Jesus and Mohammed came back here together and spoke to us, they'd say something like, "Don't kill or die in My Name... Live and enjoy and let other live and enjoy... It's a pretty big fucking planet out there... there's enough for everyone".
Islam is not the only way towards God... and neither is Jesus. Accept that and we'll have a chance.

Drowned Out

Cosmo wrote:

It works both ways.
I think the only way it'll ever work is if all religions accept all other religions. I think if Jesus and Mohammed came back here together and spoke to us, they'd say something like, "Don't kill or die in My Name... Live and enjoy and let other live and enjoy... It's a pretty big fucking planet out there... there's enough for everyone".
Islam is not the only way towards God... and neither is Jesus. Accept that and we'll have a chance.

Looks like the muslim scholars have accepted it:

The new letter argues in theological terms, giving quotes from the Koran and the Bible that show both Christianity and Islam considered love of God as their greatest commandment and love of neighbor as the second greatest.

"The basis for this peace and understanding already exists," it said. "It is part of the very foundational principles of both faiths: love of the one God and love of the neighbor."


This drove me nuts for some reason:
"Relations between Muslims and Christians have been strained as al Qaeda has struck around the world and as the United States and other Western countries intervened in Iraq and Afghanistan".

It's like...."ok, thanks for finally agreeing to be peaceful.....after all, you DID start all this".

qtegirl

Drowned Out wrote:

This drove me nuts for some reason:
"Relations between Muslims and Christians have been strained as al Qaeda has struck around the world and as the United States and other Western countries intervened in Iraq and Afghanistan".

It's like...."ok, thanks for finally agreeing to be peaceful.....after all, you DID start all this".

Relations between Muslims and Christians have been strained for centuries, not just in recent times. Does anyone remember the Crusades? And, more recently than that, Britain invaded Iraq and Russia invaded Afghanistan.

Yes, there have been times of relative peace but the struggle has been kicked up a notch recently. However, it's not anything new.

Heineken Helen

are Jews Christians? What's this got to do with Israel?

jlew24asu

Heineken Helen wrote:

are Jews Christians? What's this got to do with Israel?

(most) Christians support Jews and their right to exist.

(most) Muslims do not support Jews and their right to exist.

RainDog

jlew24asu wrote:

(most) Christians support Jews and their right to exist.

(most) Muslims do not support Jews and their right to exist.

I think you need to replace the word "Jews" with the word "Israel" in this post.

810wmb

Cosmo wrote:

Islam is not the only way towards God... and neither is Jesus. Accept that and we'll have a chance.

the problem is....Christians believe that's the only way to God and vice virsa

and the whole, kill non Christians, Christians don't believe that either

Heineken Helen

jlew24asu wrote:

(most) Christians support Jews and their right to exist.

(most) Muslims do not support Jews and their right to exist.

:eek: wow! How many muslims do you actually know?

chopitdown

Cosmo wrote:

It works both ways.
I think the only way it'll ever work is if all religions accept all other religions. I think if Jesus and Mohammed came back here together and spoke to us, they'd say something like, "Don't kill or die in My Name... Live and enjoy and let other live and enjoy... It's a pretty big fucking planet out there... there's enough for everyone".
Islam is not the only way towards God... and neither is Jesus. Accept that and we'll have a chance.

neither religion will accept that. The core foundation of Christianity is that Jesus is the only way. Each religion has to accept that the other exists and they must learn to co-exist. They have to find common ground through their religion to respect other people.

NMyTree

Cosmo wrote:

It works both ways.
I think the only way it'll ever work is if all religions accept all other religions. I think if Jesus and Mohammed came back here together and spoke to us, they'd say something like, "Don't kill or die in My Name... Live and enjoy and let other live and enjoy... It's a pretty big fucking planet out there... there's enough for everyone".
Islam is not the only way towards God... and neither is Jesus. Accept that and we'll have a chance.

We're in the same camp. Completely agree.

To insist, or impose by force or intimidation- one's religion to be the correct god and religion, betrays the very essence and definiton of faith.


Faith: Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. Belief without evidence. Confident belief in the truth of a person, idea, or thing. This belief is not based on logical proof.

jlew24asu

chopitdown wrote:

neither religion will accept that. The core foundation of Christianity is that Jesus is the only way. Each religion has to accept that the other exists and they must learn to co-exist. They have to find common ground through their religion to respect other people.

Christianity may believe that jesus is the only way but they do not believe in killing non-believers. even in the most extreme cases.

muslims? hmmmmm not so much. extreme islam interprets the quran that all non believers should covert or die. like this guy....

http://johnathangaltfilms.com/movie.html

810wmb

NMyTree wrote:

We're in the same camp. Completely agree.

To insist, or impose by force or intimidation- one's religion to be the correct god and religion, betrays the very essence and definiton of faith.


Faith: Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. Belief without evidence. Confident belief in the truth of a person, idea, or thing. This belief is not based on logical proof.

Christians don't "force" their beliefs on anyone...

Heineken Helen

810wmb wrote:

Christians don't "force" their beliefs on anyone...

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Pacomc79

jlew24asu wrote:

FINALLY lets make it happen!!! maybe within the next 3 years Israel-Palestine can come to a land agreement and US will leave Iraq..and I'll finally get to go visit Babylon and Jerusalem . so much history to see.

good job muslim scholars. bold move against the extremists


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071011/ts_nm/religion_scholars_dc

LONDON (Reuters) - More than 130 Muslim scholars from around the globe called on Thursday for peace and understanding between Islam and Christianity, saying "the very survival of the world itself is perhaps at stake."
ADVERTISEMENT

In an unprecedented letter to Pope Benedict and other Christian leaders, 138 Muslim scholars said finding common ground between the world's biggest faiths was not simply a matter for polite dialogue between religious leaders.

"If Muslims and Christians are not at peace, the world cannot be at peace. With the terrible weaponry of the modern world; with Muslims and Christians intertwined everywhere as never before, no side can unilaterally win a conflict between more than half of the world's inhabitants," the scholars wrote.

"Our common future is at stake. The very survival of the world itself is perhaps at stake," they wrote, adding that Islam and Christianity already agreed that love of God and neighbor were the two most important commandments of their faiths.

Relations between Muslims and Christians have been strained as al Qaeda has struck around the world and as the United States and other Western countries intervened in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Such a joint letter is unprecedented in Islam, which has no central authority that speaks on behalf of all worshippers.

This is a brilliant first step!!

jlew24asu

Heineken Helen wrote:

:eek: wow! How many muslims do you actually know?

I know a few. they are ok. some I change most to some/few/many? I dont know.

dont try to pretend my statement isnt true on some level. how many muslim countries even recognize Israel?? dont get your panties in a bunch k.

jlew24asu

Heineken Helen wrote:

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whats so funny?

spiral out

jlew24asu wrote:

Christianity may believe that jesus is the only way but they do not believe in killing non-believers. even in the most extreme cases.

muslims? hmmmmm not so much. extreme islam interprets the quran that all non believers should covert or die. like this guy....

http://johnathangaltfilms.com/movie.html

Do you not think most musilms are peaceful people?

Extreme beliefs exist in both religions. Not just Islam.

Heineken Helen

jlew24asu wrote:

whats so funny?

did you read what I quoted? I thought it was pretty self explanatory!

great use of sarcasm by 810wmb, right?

NMyTree

I applaud the Muslim scholars !!!! Great job!!!

jlew24asu

spiral out wrote:

Do you not think most musilms are peaceful people?

Extreme beliefs exist in both religions. Not just Islam.

I'd like to think many are peaceful, yes.

but look at Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, lebanon, egypt, Iran, Iraq........arethey for the most part all peaceful, religious tolerant, freedom loving people?