Why so much hatred for Bill O'Reilly?

qwerty1

Falafel boy is an entertainer, not a factual newsman or even a columnist.
And you should only take him as an entertainer.

jlew24asu

sonicreducer wrote:

does anyone have anything to say about the movie issue jlew presented?

actually O'Reilly presented it. I dont really think its as bad as O'Reilly says althought I think he is just looking out for the better. I saw "Saw III" last night and its very disgusting. kids under 13 should not see it.

parel jam

http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=219576

Vedderlution_Baby

Because he is a ignorant jackass who either 1) Does not base what he says on his own research, therfore jumps to conclusions or 2) realizes what he says is in fact bullshit but chooses to use it regardless because it suits his needs.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200601040009

sonicreducer

jlew24asu wrote:

actually O'Reilly presented it. I dont really think its as bad as O'Reilly says althought I think he is just looking out for the better. I saw "Saw III" last night and its very disgusting. kids under 13 should not see it.

i haven't seen his comments, but i bet id agree with them. t.v. in particular just disgusts me. reality tv and explicitly graphic shows especially,...

you have to go overboard to make people realize anything important these days. once you have their attention, rationalize it and make a change.

i watched saw I for the first time last night with my girlfriend. it was pretty good, but im 23 years old. i wouldn't let my kids watch it if i had kids.

just imagine how crazy the results would be if for one day people set aside their desire to be entertained and spent the same amount of time usually spent watching t.v. (don't know the stats, but i bet it's ridiculous) on something constructive.

it would be amazing.

Vedderlution_Baby

jlew24asu wrote:

actually O'Reilly presented it. I dont really think its as bad as O'Reilly says althought I think he is just looking out for the better. I saw "Saw III" last night and its very disgusting. kids under 13 should not see it.

I'll agree that kids under 13 should not be going to see it. That's why it's rated 'R'. If a 13 year old gets into that movie it's not the movie makers fault. It's the parents and the theatre. When I tried to get tickets for house of 1000 corpes (16 or 17 at the time) they said I could not purchase tickets unless my parent not only bought the tickets but also walked into the movie with me.



bad for everybody? How so? I watched the first two saws and am planning to see the third. Guess what...haven't killed anyone yet nor do I want to. Most people are mature enough to make their own decisions when it comes to choosing their choice of entertainment.

JOEJOEJOE

jlew24asu wrote:

I think to most of the liberals here the answer is obvious. you dont like him, solely becuase he works for Fox News. thats great. He has the top rated show in America, all us dummies americans is just stupids I guess. I dont always watch his show but I do read his articles and one of his books. He is defientely not as far right as Hannity or Colter. Why do people think he is sucks so bad?


here is his column from yesterday... While I dont really agree 100% with him, I can see where he is coming from. Looks like he is just trying to protect children from watching disgusting movies..........


On this Halloween, the No. 1 movie in the USA is "Saw III," a sadistic slasher flick designed solely so its audience can enjoy graphic depictions of human suffering.

Now I'm a libertarian when it comes to censorship, so I don't like it. I fully support freedom in the marketplace. You alone should decide what you want to consume. But I will say this, sadistic movies are bad for everyone. They are a disgraceful exhibition and the companies that finance them are harming individuals in the country.

There is nothing worthwhile about seeing graphic displays of unspeakable violence. And if you enjoy that, you might want to find out why to protect yourself and others.

Cannibalism, dismemberment and all the other garbage that is featured weekly in the multiplex is worse than gangster rap or dirty movies, far worse. Young children are buying tickets to see PG films and then sneaking into the sadism displays. Young adults are craving more and more barbaric images, all in the name of entertainment.

On the "Oprah" show, she told me that freedom means slasher flicks should be available and Oprah is correct. But freedom also means Americans have the right to condemn these movies and hold the companies who supply them accountable.

The turning point for ancient Rome arrived when the population turned from building their society to consuming whatever the government would give them, including sadistic displays of brutal death in the Coliseum.

In modern America, the culture is definitely on the decline. Just ask any public school teacher how kids behave these days, as opposed to even 10 years ago. Standards of behavior are collapsing everywhere and the media is leading the way.

Vile gangster rappers have hurt millions of at-risk children. And now we have a movie industry that can't make these sadistic films fast enough. Of course, they all hide behind freedom, but that rationalization is hollow. Those who push base entertainment are villains, no question. All of us need to wise up and jump into the culture war when the No. 1 movie in the country revels in close-upshot of limbs being sawed off, there is a problem.

Enough is enough with this dehumanizing trash. It is wrong, it is evil and it demeans America — period.

He has the top-rated show in America....Creed had #1 albums.......don't trust the masses!

jlew24asu

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

Because he is a ignorant jackass who either 1) Does not base what he says on his own research, therfore jumps to conclusions or 2) realizes what he says is in fact bullshit but chooses to use it regardless because it suits his needs.

sounds like many from AMT.

Vedderlution_Baby

jlew24asu wrote:

sounds like many from AMT.

Well we weren't talking about them.

sonicreducer

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

Most people are mature enough to make their own decisions when it comes to choosing their choice of entertainment.

notice how you said, "Most",...

why do you think people copycat crimes? they get influenced.

one crime against humanity legitimately influenced by violent entertainment should reroute the influence in general.

they are making movies about terrorists. and people are going to buy it! you have got to be kidding me. you have to draw a hard line, and that is why i would agree that it is a problem for everyone.

Ericastrada

jlew24asu wrote:

actually O'Reilly presented it. I dont really think its as bad as O'Reilly says althought I think he is just looking out for the better. I saw "Saw III" last night and its very disgusting. kids under 13 should not see it.

That is why the movie is rated "R". I am getting so tired of people blaming every one else for what their kids watch, what games their kidsplay, and so on and so on. Its called parenting. Its nobody's responsibilty but the parents.

inmytree

bill was ok when he worked for that great show, Inside Edition....fine work indeed....

Vedderlution_Baby

sonicreducer wrote:

notice how you said, "Most",...

why do you think people copycat crimes? they get influenced.

one crime against humanity legitimately influenced by violent entertainment should reroute the influence in general.

they are making movies about terrorists. and people are going to buy it! you have got to be kidding me. you have to draw a hard line, and that is why i would agree that it is a problem for everyone.

So what's your solution to the problem? Ban all violent entertainment? (Believe me when I say I'm not using a hostile tone. Just wondering if you have suggestions.)

sonicreducer

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

So what's your solution to the problem? Ban all violent entertainment? (Believe me when I say I'm not using a hostile tone. Just wondering if you have suggestions.)

im obviously not the guy for the job, but i would say there need to be stricter rules/guidelines/laws for keeping children censored to this stuff. i know it is almost impossible, and that is why id say fuck yeah, ban the shit.

that is a freedom id be willing to give up more than habeus corpus.

more people focused on something constructive instead of watching violent t.v. is good for everybody.

jlew24asu

Ericastrada wrote:

That is why the movie is rated "R". I am getting so tired of people blaming every one else for what their kids watch, what games their kidsplay, and so on and so on. Its called parenting. Its nobody's responsibilty but the parents.

sadly there are far too many irresponsible parents.

Vedderlution_Baby

jlew24asu wrote:

sadly there are far too many irresponsible parents.

Why too many! And they try to blame it on everyone else. Jesus christ...fucking fools.

jlew24asu

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

Why too many! And they try to blame it on everyone else. Jesus christ...fucking fools.

what?

NCfan

jlew24asu wrote:

I think to most of the liberals here the answer is obvious. you dont like him, solely becuase he works for Fox News. thats great. He has the top rated show in America, all us dummies americans is just stupids I guess. I dont always watch his show but I do read his articles and one of his books. He is defientely not as far right as Hannity or Colter. Why do people think he is sucks so bad?


here is his column from yesterday... While I dont really agree 100% with him, I can see where he is coming from. Looks like he is just trying to protect children from watching disgusting movies..........


On this Halloween, the No. 1 movie in the USA is "Saw III," a sadistic slasher flick designed solely so its audience can enjoy graphic depictions of human suffering.

Now I'm a libertarian when it comes to censorship, so I don't like it. I fully support freedom in the marketplace. You alone should decide what you want to consume. But I will say this, sadistic movies are bad for everyone. They are a disgraceful exhibition and the companies that finance them are harming individuals in the country.

There is nothing worthwhile about seeing graphic displays of unspeakable violence. And if you enjoy that, you might want to find out why to protect yourself and others.

Cannibalism, dismemberment and all the other garbage that is featured weekly in the multiplex is worse than gangster rap or dirty movies, far worse. Young children are buying tickets to see PG films and then sneaking into the sadism displays. Young adults are craving more and more barbaric images, all in the name of entertainment.

On the "Oprah" show, she told me that freedom means slasher flicks should be available and Oprah is correct. But freedom also means Americans have the right to condemn these movies and hold the companies who supply them accountable.

The turning point for ancient Rome arrived when the population turned from building their society to consuming whatever the government would give them, including sadistic displays of brutal death in the Coliseum.

In modern America, the culture is definitely on the decline. Just ask any public school teacher how kids behave these days, as opposed to even 10 years ago. Standards of behavior are collapsing everywhere and the media is leading the way.

Vile gangster rappers have hurt millions of at-risk children. And now we have a movie industry that can't make these sadistic films fast enough. Of course, they all hide behind freedom, but that rationalization is hollow. Those who push base entertainment are villains, no question. All of us need to wise up and jump into the culture war when the No. 1 movie in the country revels in close-upshot of limbs being sawed off, there is a problem.

Enough is enough with this dehumanizing trash. It is wrong, it is evil and it demeans America — period.

I agree with about 75% of everything he says. I don't think he is a partisan at all with respect to Democrats and Republicans. He is an ideological partisan. He is a pompous, self-righteous conservative. He's not as bad as people think he is. He says a lot of shit about religon that makes me want to vomit. But I can look past that and also agree with him when he talks about other issues.

I've seen Bill Mar put O'Reilly in his place, and it was great.

Vedderlution_Baby

jlew24asu wrote:

what?

Man I'm sorry!

I meant to say WAY too many. Fingers moving too fast.


As for sonicreducer...it may be something you're willing to give up but not everyone. You can't get rid of something completely just because a person may do something that's irresponisble. You'd have to ban EVERYTHING. I'll agree that people watch too much t.v. play an instrument.



Also, the movie industry can't make these movies fast enough because they're whats making the money. If they didn't make so much money they'd stop making them. So is it hollywoods fault that they make movies that make use "demented" and "sadistic" or our "demented and sadistic" society that make hollywood create these movies? Supply and demand.

sicnevol

jlew24asu wrote:

I think to most of the liberals here the answer is obvious. you dont like him, solely becuase he works for Fox News. thats great. He has the top rated show in America, all us dummies americans is just stupids I guess. I dont always watch his show but I do read his articles and one of his books. He is defientely not as far right as Hannity or Colter. Why do people think he is sucks so bad?


here is his column from yesterday... While I dont really agree 100% with him, I can see where he is coming from. Looks like he is just trying to protect children from watching disgusting movies..........


On this Halloween, the No. 1 movie in the USA is "Saw III," a sadistic slasher flick designed solely so its audience can enjoy graphic depictions of human suffering.

Also the Romas had physical contests to the Death for 100's of years before the fall of the Roman empire was brought on by Christianity. Not the Metion the Greeks, had far more violent and "sadistic" blood sports. Guess where 80% of you education came from... The Greeks, math Science, engineering are all greek.

Now I'm a libertarian when it comes to censorship, so I don't like it. I fully support freedom in the marketplace. You alone should decide what you want to consume. But I will say this, sadistic movies are bad for everyone. They are a disgraceful exhibition and the companies that finance them are harming individuals in the country.

There is nothing worthwhile about seeing graphic displays of unspeakable violence. And if you enjoy that, you might want to find out why to protect yourself and others.

Cannibalism, dismemberment and all the other garbage that is featured weekly in the multiplex is worse than gangster rap or dirty movies, far worse. Young children are buying tickets to see PG films and then sneaking into the sadism displays. Young adults are craving more and more barbaric images, all in the name of entertainment.

On the "Oprah" show, she told me that freedom means slasher flicks should be available and Oprah is correct. But freedom also means Americans have the right to condemn these movies and hold the companies who supply them accountable.

The turning point for ancient Rome arrived when the population turned from building their society to consuming whatever the government would give them, including sadistic displays of brutal death in the Coliseum.

In modern America, the culture is definitely on the decline. Just ask any public school teacher how kids behave these days, as opposed to even 10 years ago. Standards of behavior are collapsing everywhere and the media is leading the way.

Vile gangster rappers have hurt millions of at-risk children. And now we have a movie industry that can't make these sadistic films fast enough. Of course, they all hide behind freedom, but that rationalization is hollow. Those who push base entertainment are villains, no question. All of us need to wise up and jump into the culture war when the No. 1 movie in the country revels in close-upshot of limbs being sawed off, there is a problem.

Enough is enough with this dehumanizing trash. It is wrong, it is evil and it demeans America — period.

he doesn't have the most highly rated show, That would be Grey Anatomy, i DOn't like him because he passes jusdgement on people he doen't know. THe thing with M. J. Fox, pissed me off, he isn't a fucking doctor and also dosn't have parkinsons.

you know what hurts at-risk children? Crappy parents and shitty schools. not Music and not movies, because if they had decent parents they wouldn't be exposed to it. If they had better schools they could be better prepared for it if they were.