World will end in 2050

Jackhammer

Again, I don't think it's a real problem.

I mean, some people here seems to "defend" something by saying that 16+ family is wrong, because of resources and space they will use.

Be careful, because that MIGHT be the beginning of another form of fascism.

Let's say, I might find that you don't deserve to use the resources you use, becaue I don't find you "worth" enough. More, I might run out of resources by letting you live.


I'm overdoing it here. but I hope you get the idea.

seagoat2

Jackhammer wrote:

Again, I don't think it's a real problem.

I mean, some people here seems to "defend" something by saying that 16+ family is wrong, because of resources and space they will use.

Be careful, because that MIGHT be the beginning of another form of fascism.

Let's say, I might find that you don't deserve to use the resources you use, becaue I don't find you "worth" enough. More, I might run out of resources by letting you live.


I'm overdoing it here. but I hope you get the idea.

Yes, I do get the idea - I don't want to suggest that I'm "against" someone having that many kids....it's her body....what she does with it is her business.

Jackhammer

Definitly. Sorry, I couldn't express better what I meant, I hope it didn't sound "angry". English isn't my mother language, after all

And I still find it astonishing that one might have so many natural kids

seagoat2

Jackhammer wrote:

Definitly. Sorry, I couldn't express better what I meant, I hope it didn't sound "angry". English isn't my mother language, after all

And I still find it astonishing that one might have so many natural kids

No, not angry, it was a good point. Yes, astonishing! And OUCH!

Jackhammer

hehe

I wonder if the father was always there at the hospital, and if the mom got her 16 at the same hospital. They probably got group prices or something

seagoat2

Jackhammer wrote:

hehe

I wonder if the father was always there at the hospital, and if the mom got her 16 at the same hospital. They probably got group prices or something

If they didn't get group prices, they should have.....

Jackhammer

Dunno, perhaps they get one free when reaching 20 kids

callen

Uncle Leo wrote:

I am not ready to put a cap on the number of kids people can have, but I do wish there was a way to NOT instill in people from birth that marriage three kids and a cat (used to be a dog, I miss those days) must be your dream. Some people have kids because "that's what you do."

95% of the time I tell people I don't have kids or even want any...they give me this "whats wrong with you look".

callen

Jackhammer wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the population crisis i far more complicated.

There are places where it's critical to do "controlled breeding", like in China. It works at various level, but I heard it was mainly to keep economy at a steady rate.

In most european country, it's critical that people do kids, as a large part of the population is growing old, and there is not enough young people. Age pyramid upside down.

In Africa, it's again an overpopulation problem, but linked to sanitarian and economical problem.

And so on...

but the overall population of the human species is multiplying......

Jackhammer

That's not the point here, I think.

We could multiply more.There is still a lot of places, a lot of resources.

The thing is, resources are poorly distributed amongst mankind.

It's a political choice. Status Quo make the game of industrial countries vs poor countries.

"We" could do something for the world to be a better place.
"We" just choose not to.

callen

Jackhammer wrote:

That's not the point here, I think.

We could multiply more.There is still a lot of places, a lot of resources.

The thing is, resources are poorly distributed amongst mankind.

It's a political choice. Status Quo make the game of industrial countries vs poor countries.

"We" could do something for the world to be a better place.
"We" just choose not to.

there isn't an infinite supply of resources...the planet can't support unlimited number of people....where are all these people going to live....natural habitats are taking a beating now....if we continue to multiply...on a global level....yes Germans have negative birth rate...we will continue to use up these limited resources.

enharmonic

The Earth will respond. I personally cannot wait...even if it means my own life will end. All of man's big plans...all of the abuse to this living organism we take for granted. Hurricane Katrina was the Earth twitching. Wait until it get's REALLY tired of what we're doing to it.

It will make Katrina look like a day at the park.

jlew24asu

enharmonic wrote:

The Earth will respond. I personally cannot wait...even if it means my own life will end. All of man's big plans...all of the abuse to this living organism we take for granted. Hurricane Katrina was the Earth twitching. Wait until it get's REALLY tired of what we're doing to it.

It will make Katrina look like a day at the park.

this place is funny sometimes. I was waiting for a response like this. good stuff!

callen

enharmonic wrote:

The Earth will respond. I personally cannot wait...even if it means my own life will end. All of man's big plans...all of the abuse to this living organism we take for granted. Hurricane Katrina was the Earth twitching. Wait until it get's REALLY tired of what we're doing to it.

It will make Katrina look like a day at the park.

Good post......remember some old grey haired professor say..once that we won't ruin the planet...it will always be here.

enharmonic

I have two words for anyone interested in such things...

Yellowstone Supervolcano

Here's the blast radius when it finally goes poof.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/yellowstone-volcano.gif

By many accounts...10,000 times more powerful than Mt. St. Helens. That's a rough equivalent of about 1000 nukes...sitting under a big ole chunk of North America.

Jeanwah

enharmonic wrote:

I have two words for anyone interested in such things...

Yellowstone Supervolcano

Yes, but the mere chance of it happening, compared to the chance of humans destroying the Earth, is pretty nil. It's pretty close to the chance of an asteroid hitting Earth.

Innocent_Bystander

World won't end, just the human race.

catefrances

jlew24asu wrote:

how about you stop pretending like you know what your talking about and let someone from australia talk

someone from australia was talking. and that someone was taking sponger's comments for what they were; attempts at humour.


personally i do not think there is an over population problem. i think the problem is one of management. we have the resources to maintain our population but we don't have the willingness to distribute them correctly. this sounds like a whole lot of panicking at the disco if you ask me.

jlew24asu

catefrances wrote:

someone from australia was talking. and that someone was taking sponger's comments for what they were; attempts at humour.


personally i do not think there is an over population problem. i think the problem is one of management. we have the resources to maintain our population but we don't have the willingness to distribute them correctly. this sounds like a whole lot of panicking at the disco if you ask me.

problem is, with 6 billon people and growing, its impossible to manage.


pj coming to a town near you soon eh? you pumped?

Jackhammer

Hmmm... I still think there is something to do.

And remember, as mankind is a part of Nature Grand Design, if we destroy the earth and manage to live on another planet, it'll be a great victory for Nature.

And Nature is the entire universe.

For all we know, we could be one of those minor lifeform...

Imagine, the rest of the universe is already ruled by a government of all advanced lifeform, and they decided to keep us away from everything until we manage not to kill each other