I mean, some people here seems to "defend" something by saying that 16+ family is wrong, because of resources and space they will use.
Be careful, because that MIGHT be the beginning of another form of fascism.
Let's say, I might find that you don't deserve to use the resources you use, becaue I don't find you "worth" enough. More, I might run out of resources by letting you live.
I'm overdoing it here. but I hope you get the idea.
I mean, some people here seems to "defend" something by saying that 16+ family is wrong, because of resources and space they will use.
Be careful, because that MIGHT be the beginning of another form of fascism.
Let's say, I might find that you don't deserve to use the resources you use, becaue I don't find you "worth" enough. More, I might run out of resources by letting you live.
I'm overdoing it here. but I hope you get the idea.
Yes, I do get the idea - I don't want to suggest that I'm "against" someone having that many kids....it's her body....what she does with it is her business.
I am not ready to put a cap on the number of kids people can have, but I do wish there was a way to NOT instill in people from birth that marriage three kids and a cat (used to be a dog, I miss those days) must be your dream. Some people have kids because "that's what you do."
95% of the time I tell people I don't have kids or even want any...they give me this "whats wrong with you look".
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the population crisis i far more complicated.
There are places where it's critical to do "controlled breeding", like in China. It works at various level, but I heard it was mainly to keep economy at a steady rate.
In most european country, it's critical that people do kids, as a large part of the population is growing old, and there is not enough young people. Age pyramid upside down.
In Africa, it's again an overpopulation problem, but linked to sanitarian and economical problem.
And so on...
but the overall population of the human species is multiplying......
We could multiply more.There is still a lot of places, a lot of resources.
The thing is, resources are poorly distributed amongst mankind.
It's a political choice. Status Quo make the game of industrial countries vs poor countries.
"We" could do something for the world to be a better place.
"We" just choose not to.
there isn't an infinite supply of resources...the planet can't support unlimited number of people....where are all these people going to live....natural habitats are taking a beating now....if we continue to multiply...on a global level....yes Germans have negative birth rate...we will continue to use up these limited resources.
The Earth will respond. I personally cannot wait...even if it means my own life will end. All of man's big plans...all of the abuse to this living organism we take for granted. Hurricane Katrina was the Earth twitching. Wait until it get's REALLY tired of what we're doing to it.
The Earth will respond. I personally cannot wait...even if it means my own life will end. All of man's big plans...all of the abuse to this living organism we take for granted. Hurricane Katrina was the Earth twitching. Wait until it get's REALLY tired of what we're doing to it.
It will make Katrina look like a day at the park.
this place is funny sometimes. I was waiting for a response like this. good stuff!
The Earth will respond. I personally cannot wait...even if it means my own life will end. All of man's big plans...all of the abuse to this living organism we take for granted. Hurricane Katrina was the Earth twitching. Wait until it get's REALLY tired of what we're doing to it.
It will make Katrina look like a day at the park.
Good post......remember some old grey haired professor say..once that we won't ruin the planet...it will always be here.
By many accounts...10,000 times more powerful than Mt. St. Helens. That's a rough equivalent of about 1000 nukes...sitting under a big ole chunk of North America.
I have two words for anyone interested in such things...
Yellowstone Supervolcano
Yes, but the mere chance of it happening, compared to the chance of humans destroying the Earth, is pretty nil. It's pretty close to the chance of an asteroid hitting Earth.
how about you stop pretending like you know what your talking about and let someone from australia talk
someone from australia was talking. and that someone was taking sponger's comments for what they were; attempts at humour.
personally i do not think there is an over population problem. i think the problem is one of management. we have the resources to maintain our population but we don't have the willingness to distribute them correctly. this sounds like a whole lot of panicking at the disco if you ask me.
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someone from australia was talking. and that someone was taking sponger's comments for what they were; attempts at humour.
personally i do not think there is an over population problem. i think the problem is one of management. we have the resources to maintain our population but we don't have the willingness to distribute them correctly. this sounds like a whole lot of panicking at the disco if you ask me.
problem is, with 6 billon people and growing, its impossible to manage.
And remember, as mankind is a part of Nature Grand Design, if we destroy the earth and manage to live on another planet, it'll be a great victory for Nature.
And Nature is the entire universe.
For all we know, we could be one of those minor lifeform...
Imagine, the rest of the universe is already ruled by a government of all advanced lifeform, and they decided to keep us away from everything until we manage not to kill each other
By many accounts...10,000 times more powerful than Mt. St. Helens. That's a rough equivalent of about 1000 nukes...sitting under a big ole chunk of North America.
thats nowhere near Scotland and thusly i couldnt give a fuck
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
problem is, with 6 billon people and growing, its impossible to manage.
pj coming to a town near you soon eh? you pumped?
yes they are. no, not really pumped.
no it's not impossible to manage. we're just not trying. life in the first world is okay by global standards, so everyone else can basically whistle dixie apparently.
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no it's not impossible to manage. we're just not trying. life in the first world is okay by global standards, so everyone else can basically whistle dixie apparently.
not a pj fan? that sucks.
you and I mght be trying, but getting 6 billion people to try, is impossible
you and I mght be trying, but getting 6 billion people to try, is impossible
hey! if i weren't a pj fan i wouldn't be here now would i?
i just got some shit going on that's clouding my head is all. plus i have to blow them off in sydney to see U2 in brisvegas. i am so pissed off about that.
but trust me, the second eddie vedder walks out on that stage in brisvegas i will get pumped.
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hey! if i weren't a pj fan i wouldn't be here now would i?
i just got some shit going on that's clouding my head is all. plus i have to blow them off in sydney to see U2 in brisvegas. i am so pissed off about that.
but trust me, the second eddie vedder walks out on that stage in brisvegas i will get pumped.
cool. I would fly out there in a second if I could. not sure if i could ever accept the 16 hour plane ride.
until we stop living for ourselves and start thinking of the bigger picture - we will unlikely make any inroads ... it'll be one day - person by person, we will wonder how we ended up like this? ... and everyone will know the answer ...
i do!! ... at least in the states, there are regional areas determined to reduce carbon emissions (not relative to economic output) but an actual reduction ... we have no leadership in any level of gov't ...
This is such a weird topic. 100 years ago, in America, someone would see this kind of data and say "Then we'll build something better". Now we see it and say "we're doomed". Sad.
good point, but i wouldnt say just America, there are plenty of progressive minds outside of the US
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I mean, some people here seems to "defend" something by saying that 16+ family is wrong, because of resources and space they will use.
Be careful, because that MIGHT be the beginning of another form of fascism.
Let's say, I might find that you don't deserve to use the resources you use, becaue I don't find you "worth" enough. More, I might run out of resources by letting you live.
I'm overdoing it here. but I hope you get the idea.
Yes, I do get the idea - I don't want to suggest that I'm "against" someone having that many kids....it's her body....what she does with it is her business.
And I still find it astonishing that one might have so many natural kids
No, not angry, it was a good point. Yes, astonishing! And OUCH!
I wonder if the father was always there at the hospital, and if the mom got her 16 at the same hospital. They probably got group prices or something
If they didn't get group prices, they should have.....
95% of the time I tell people I don't have kids or even want any...they give me this "whats wrong with you look".
but the overall population of the human species is multiplying......
We could multiply more.There is still a lot of places, a lot of resources.
The thing is, resources are poorly distributed amongst mankind.
It's a political choice. Status Quo make the game of industrial countries vs poor countries.
"We" could do something for the world to be a better place.
"We" just choose not to.
there isn't an infinite supply of resources...the planet can't support unlimited number of people....where are all these people going to live....natural habitats are taking a beating now....if we continue to multiply...on a global level....yes Germans have negative birth rate...we will continue to use up these limited resources.
It will make Katrina look like a day at the park.
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this place is funny sometimes. I was waiting for a response like this. good stuff!
Good post......remember some old grey haired professor say..once that we won't ruin the planet...it will always be here.
Yellowstone Supervolcano
Here's the blast radius when it finally goes poof.
http://www.cuttingedge.org/yellowstone-volcano.gif
By many accounts...10,000 times more powerful than Mt. St. Helens. That's a rough equivalent of about 1000 nukes...sitting under a big ole chunk of North America.
old music: http://www.myspace.com/slowloader
Yes, but the mere chance of it happening, compared to the chance of humans destroying the Earth, is pretty nil. It's pretty close to the chance of an asteroid hitting Earth.
Circle comes around each time
someone from australia was talking. and that someone was taking sponger's comments for what they were; attempts at humour.
personally i do not think there is an over population problem. i think the problem is one of management. we have the resources to maintain our population but we don't have the willingness to distribute them correctly. this sounds like a whole lot of panicking at the disco if you ask me.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
problem is, with 6 billon people and growing, its impossible to manage.
pj coming to a town near you soon eh? you pumped?
And remember, as mankind is a part of Nature Grand Design, if we destroy the earth and manage to live on another planet, it'll be a great victory for Nature.
And Nature is the entire universe.
For all we know, we could be one of those minor lifeform...
Imagine, the rest of the universe is already ruled by a government of all advanced lifeform, and they decided to keep us away from everything until we manage not to kill each other
thats nowhere near Scotland and thusly i couldnt give a fuck
yes they are. no, not really pumped.
no it's not impossible to manage. we're just not trying. life in the first world is okay by global standards, so everyone else can basically whistle dixie apparently.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
not a pj fan? that sucks.
you and I mght be trying, but getting 6 billion people to try, is impossible
hey! if i weren't a pj fan i wouldn't be here now would i?
i just got some shit going on that's clouding my head is all. plus i have to blow them off in sydney to see U2 in brisvegas. i am so pissed off about that.
but trust me, the second eddie vedder walks out on that stage in brisvegas i will get pumped.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
In other words I agree ^^
cool. I would fly out there in a second if I could. not sure if i could ever accept the 16 hour plane ride.
i do!! ... at least in the states, there are regional areas determined to reduce carbon emissions (not relative to economic output) but an actual reduction ... we have no leadership in any level of gov't ...
good point, but i wouldnt say just America, there are plenty of progressive minds outside of the US