World will end in 2050

jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
edited October 2006 in A Moving Train
well maybe not but this report is kinda scary. 2050 doesnt seem that far away.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061024/ts_nm/environment_wwf_planet_dc

BEIJING (Reuters) - Humans are stripping nature at an unprecedented rate and will need two planets' worth of natural resources every year by 2050 on current trends, the WWF conservation group said on Tuesday.

Populations of many species, from fish to mammals, had fallen by about a third from 1970 to 2003 largely because of human threats such as pollution, clearing of forests and overfishing, the group also said in a two-yearly report.

"For more than 20 years we have exceeded the earth's ability to support a consumptive lifestyle that is unsustainable and we cannot afford to continue down this path," WWF Director-General James Leape said, launching the WWF's 2006 Living Planet Report.

"If everyone around the world lived as those in America, we would need five planets to support us," Leape, an American, said in Beijing.

People in the United Arab Emirates were placing most stress per capita on the planet ahead of those in the United States, Finland and Canada, the report said.

Australia was also living well beyond its means.

The average Australian used 6.6 "global" hectares to support their developed lifestyle, ranking behind the United States and Canada, but ahead of the United Kingdom, Russia, China and Japan.

"If the rest of the world led the kind of lifestyles we do here in Australia, we would require three-and-a-half planets to provide the resources we use and to absorb the waste," said Greg Bourne, WWF-Australia chief executive officer.

Everyone would have to change lifestyles -- cutting use of fossil fuels and improving management of everything from farming to fisheries.

"As countries work to improve the well-being of their people, they risk bypassing the goal of sustainability," said Leape, speaking in an energy-efficient building at Beijing's prestigous Tsinghua University.

"It is inevitable that this disconnect will eventually limit the abilities of poor countries to develop and rich countries to maintain their prosperity," he added.

The report said humans' "ecological footprint" -- the demand people place on the natural world -- was 25 percent greater than the planet's annual ability to provide everything from food to energy and recycle all human waste in 2003.

In the previous report, the 2001 overshoot was 21 percent.

"On current projections humanity, will be using two planets' worth of natural resources by 2050 -- if those resources have not run out by then," the latest report said.

"People are turning resources into waste faster than nature can turn waste back into resources."

RISING POPULATION

"Humanity's footprint has more than tripled between 1961 and 2003," it said. Consumption has outpaced a surge in the world's population, to 6.5 billion from 3 billion in 1960. U.N. projections show a surge to 9 billion people around 2050.

It said that the footprint from use of fossil fuels, whose heat-trapping emissions are widely blamed for pushing up world temperatures, was the fastest-growing cause of strain.

Leape said China, home to a fifth of the world's population and whose economy is booming, was making the right move in pledging to reduce its energy consumption by 20 percent over the next five years.

"Much will depend on the decisions made by China, India and other rapidly developing countries," he added.

The WWF report also said that an index tracking 1,300 vetebrate species -- birds, fish, amphibians, reptiles and mammals -- showed that populations had fallen for most by about 30 percent because of factors including a loss of habitats to farms.

Among species most under pressure included the swordfish and the South African Cape vulture. Those bucking the trend included rising populations of the Javan rhinoceros and the northern hairy-nosed wombat in Australia.
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    That is scary. The world population can't continue to keep going up and as long as people are having 3 or more kids its doomed to. Starvation, disease are to hit us hard one day unless we start conserving and stop breeding so much.
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Aren't I lucky to live during these times?
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    That is scary. The world population can't continue to keep going up and as long as people are having 3 or more kids its doomed to. Starvation, disease are to hit us hard one day unless we start conserving and stop breeding so much.

    I keep saying the same thing to people, but they just don't get it. They think anyone who calls for breeding control must be some kind of nazi.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    sponger wrote:
    I keep saying the same thing to people, but they just don't get it. They think anyone who calls for breeding control must be some kind of nazi.


    its ok to advocate having 1 or even no children. but you make it sound like you want to sacrifice everyones first born. you cant force anyone to do anything. as you say in "breeding control"
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    jlew24asu wrote:
    its ok to advocate having 1 or even no children. but you make it sound like you want to sacrifice everyones first born. you cant force anyone to do anything. as you say in "breeding control"

    I'm not saying we should sacrifice everyone's first born. I'm saying we should do like in China, where it's illegal to have more than 1 child.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Australia was also living well beyond its means.

    The average Australian used 6.6 "global" hectares to support their developed lifestyle, ranking behind the United States and Canada, but ahead of the United Kingdom, Russia, China and Japan.

    "If the rest of the world led the kind of lifestyles we do here in Australia, we would require three-and-a-half planets to provide the resources we use and to absorb the waste," said Greg Bourne, WWF-Australia chief executive officer.

    AUSSIE! AUSSIE! AUSSIE! OI! OI! OI!

    thank goodness after years of years of dealing with feelings of inadequacy, australians can hold their heads up high, knowing that at long last we are finally contributing to something meaningful. unfortunately it's to the destruction of our planet. but hey at least we're in there with the big guys. ;):p:D
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  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    I think the reason why aussies consume more energy is because to live in australia, you have to drive either an SUV or a subaru, neither of which are all that great on gas.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    sponger wrote:
    I think the reason why aussies consume more energy is because to live in australia, you have to drive either an SUV or a subaru, neither of which are all that great on gas.

    well that's just plain horseshit my friend. :) australia is one of the most urbanised countries on the planet. we don't all live in the outback and some of us even choose not to own a car. :)
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  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    In that case, it must the heating energy required to run the breweries. Well, that plus the propane being used for shrimp bar b cues.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    sponger wrote:
    In that case, it must the heating energy required to run the breweries. Well, that plus the propane being used for shrimp bar b cues.

    what is a shrimp?
    good to see someone's paying attention to the advertising campaigns. ;)
    no man, we (well those who eat cow) chuck a big slab of beef on the bbq, not some tiny crustacean.

    i'll give you the breweries, cause aussies do love a beer. plus we need to chill the lager. so there's more sucking the planet dry. :)
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    I'm all for limiting the size of the family in the U.S. Seeing that we now have a population of 300,000 million, it only seems right in regards to overpopulation and saving our planet for the future (or at least trying to.)
  • Eva7Eva7 Posts: 226
    sponger wrote:
    I'm not saying we should sacrifice everyone's first born. I'm saying we should do like in China, where it's illegal to have more than 1 child.

    Yes, and then it happens that people kill the exceeding newborn babies.....

    Repression is never an answer. I think that people should start to become aware of the situation, that answers can only come from awareness.
    Sometimes I think like you, I think "eh, what the hell! they control cats birth when we should control human birth!!!".... and I have firmly decided to not have kids and whenever I hear some friends having kids I just shiver... because I think this report is even optimistic. I don't need to read such report to know how bad things are going on this planet. It is enough to me to think the poisons we have in our food and our air. It is enough to me to think how crazy are all those world leaders who have chosen violence to rule this world. It is enough to me to think that people are basing their life on consumption and money, while the rest of the world is starving. We really don't need such report to know that we have wasted this wonderful planet and that we're wasting our life. I really wonder how anyone can seriously think to put one more life on this world, really, and I don't have an answer 'cept than the fact that they don't realize what's going on. But China.... no way, that's not the answer man!
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    sponger wrote:
    In that case, it must the heating energy required to run the breweries. Well, that plus the propane being used for shrimp bar b cues.


    how about you stop pretending like you know what your talking about and let someone from australia talk
  • sponger wrote:
    I keep saying the same thing to people, but they just don't get it. They think anyone who calls for breeding control must be some kind of nazi.

    They would be right.
  • This is such a weird topic. 100 years ago, in America, someone would see this kind of data and say "Then we'll build something better". Now we see it and say "we're doomed". Sad.
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    jlew24asu wrote:
    how about you stop pretending like you know what your talking about and let someone from australia talk

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  • Eva7Eva7 Posts: 226
    This is such a weird topic. 100 years ago, in America, someone would see this kind of data and say "Then we'll build something better". Now we see it and say "we're doomed". Sad.

    I agree. I also think that we should say "Then we'll build something better", but it is not enough to say it, we must DO it. To those who say "we're doomed", I say yes, but do we have anything to loseif we try a different way instead of giving up? I think we don't have anything to lose, so I think we must try our best, starting from our daily life, from what we eat and buy, questioning where the things we use come from (responsible consumption), questioning our role and job, questioning our own values and political choices. And maybe changing our life with any means, because as you say, probably to say "we're doomed" is just too easy and it just means to accept and join the crime of this planet devastation. Awareness to me doesn't mean to give it up, it means to make choices.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    sponger wrote:
    I'm not saying we should sacrifice everyone's first born. I'm saying we should do like in China, where it's illegal to have more than 1 child.
    First of all......that's retarded and would just be another way of our government controling every decision we make. What would your penalties be for having more than 1 child? Secondly, we already have a way of controling population.............it's called birth control, USE IT! Third, we already have the technology to at least help the situation that we're in, and maybe better laws regarding overconsumption should be enforced. I still have a little faith in the human race.........maybe we can hold off destroying ourselves long enough for something else to destroy us............like a super-volcano or something (Yellowstone), lol
  • Eva7 wrote:
    I agree. I also think that we should say "Then we'll build something better", but it is not enough to say it, we must DO it. To those who say "we're doomed", I say yes, but do we have anything to loseif we try a different way instead of giving up? I think we don't have anything to lose, so I think we must try our best, starting from our daily life, from what we eat and buy, questioning where the things we use come from (responsible consumption), questioning our role and job, questioning our own values and political choices. And maybe changing our life with any means, because as you say, probably to say "we're doomed" is just too easy and it just means to accept and join the crime of this planet devastation. Awareness to me doesn't mean to give it up, it means to make choices.

    Completely agree.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    This is such a weird topic. 100 years ago, in America, someone would see this kind of data and say "Then we'll build something better". Now we see it and say "we're doomed". Sad.

    That's exactly what I was going to say. Surely our technology will advance in those years to make that date not applicable.

    All the mini chicken littles around here are humorous in a sad way...
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    from david suzuki:

    "I feel like we are in a giant car heading for a brick wall at 100 miles an hour and everyone in the car is arguing where they want to sit. For God's sake, someone has to say put the brakes on and turn the wheel."
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    That's what we're all saying................but who is the driver????? They still have to make the decision to push the breaks or turn the wheel and so far they are just pushing the gas. It would seem that if you don't have a lot of $, you're not even in the car, you're in the trailor behind it, unheard.
  • PJPOWER wrote:
    That's what we're all saying................but who is the driver????? They still have to make the decision to push the breaks or turn the wheel and so far they are just pushing the gas.

    And here, friends, is the problem.

    YOU'RE THE FUCKING DRIVER!!!!!!!! WE'RE ALL THE FUCKING DRIVERS.

    It's not complicated.
  • obiwon76obiwon76 Posts: 568
    2050. So that could be the reason why I work for the man, smoke everyday, drink every night, drive too fast, exercise when im sore, play with strange dogs, eat steaks that are pink and listen to the greatest band on earth. Who wants to live until then.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    And here, friends, is the problem.

    YOU'RE THE FUCKING DRIVER!!!!!!!! WE'RE ALL THE FUCKING DRIVERS.

    It's not complicated.
    Too bad it is more complicated than that...........Although if it were that simple, we'd all have the same size vehicle, all be traveling the same speed. Some decisions are made that effect us whether we're driving or not. Maybe the driver should actually listen to the people they are driving, instead of all the other drivers heading towards that brick wall....
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    obiwon76 wrote:
    2050. So that could be the reason why I work for the man, smoke everyday, drink every night, drive too fast, exercise when im sore, play with strange dogs, eat steaks that are pink and listen to the greatest band on earth. Who wants to live until then.


    haha. live fast and die young. nothing wrong with that.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    know1 wrote:
    That's exactly what I was going to say. Surely our technology will advance in those years to make that date not applicable.


    I agree. but we need to get a move on. its almost 2010.
  • NCfanNCfan Posts: 945
    While I agree that polution and over-population are extremely serious problems, I think this report is full of shit.
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