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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    miller8966 wrote:
    IMO every law abiding citizen should be able to carry a gun. Except in either church or at bars.

    Playground? Bank? School? Hospital?
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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    miller8966 wrote:
    IMO every law abiding citizen should be able to carry a gun. Except in either church or at bars.

    Is there some fundamental change that happens to law abiding citizen when he enters a church or a bar?
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Well maybe church..that doesnt really bother me. But bars yes. Drinking and guns dont mix. But most places having a gun is not a problem.
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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    How about a law abiding citizen with a mental disorder?
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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    miller8966 wrote:
    Well maybe church..that doesnt really bother me. But bars yes. Drinking and guns dont mix. But most places having a gun is not a problem.

    Drinking and guns don't mix. But the logic that everyone in a bar is drunk or even drinking also doesn't mix with reality. Furthermore, bars aren't the only place one can get a drink.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Drinking and guns don't mix. But the logic that everyone in a bar is drunk or even drinking also doesn't mix with reality.

    have you ever been to a bar? in reality, people drink there, and its no place to have a gun.
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Furthermore, bars aren't the only place one can get a drink.

    other then a restaurant with a permit to serve liquor. where else can you get a drink?
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    jlew24asu wrote:
    have you ever been to a bar? in reality, people drink there, and its no place to have a gun.

    That's odd since I took a gun to a bar a few days ago. I didn't drink anything other than water. No one died. Guess I was lucky.
    other then a restaurant with a permit to serve liquor. where else can you get a drink?

    Church, as a matter of fact.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    farfromglorified wrote:
    That's odd since I took a gun to a bar a few days ago. I didn't drink anything other than water. No one died. Guess I was lucky.

    you make it sound like its the norm. what percentage of people were not drinking?


    farfromglorified wrote:
    Chruch, as a matter of fact.

    nice one. try again.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you make it sound like its the norm. what percentage of people were not drinking?

    Not many, but certainly less than zero.
    nice one. try again.

    How about a grocery store? How about my office Christmas party?
  • down_ski
    down_ski Posts: 328
    Guns dont kill people, People kill eachother....
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Not many, but certainly less than zero.

    ok im glad we cleared that up


    farfromglorified wrote:
    How about a grocery store?

    you can not buy a drink at a grocery store. you can buy liquor, but not drink it.
    farfromglorified wrote:
    How about my office Christmas party?

    once a year event. your really diggin deep my friend
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    down_ski wrote:
    Guns dont kill people, People kill eachother....

    a gun is designed to assist people killing people.
  • 69charger
    69charger Posts: 1,045
    onelongsong wrote:
    there are several software programs where you can calculate kinetic energys; velocity; and bullet drop without leaving your computer. i suggest you invest in one.

    Yeah, I'm well aware. I am an avid shooter and reloader.
    once again i reiterate; it takes intense training for anyone to hit a target over 500 yrds.

    Nope. Just a lot of practice, good ammo, and good optics.
    the police are highly trained with their weapons yet watch the reality police shows and see several officers shooting at a suspect from 5 feet away without hitting him. how do you explain that?

    The same way I've seen bench-rest shooters who can put a 10 round group in a quarter size hole at 100yards yet miss a deer at 30yards. They are totally out of thier element. Most police officers simply qualify with thier weapon. There is no intense real world training for the majority of them.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    jlew24asu wrote:
    ok im glad we cleared that up

    Yes, we cleared up the fact that you're going to treat every gun-toting person in a bar as a drunken murderer, and you're going to be occassionally wrong about the former and almost always wrong about the latter.
    you can not buy a drink at a grocery store. you can buy liquor, but not drink it.

    Not true. I can buy some beer or wine here:

    http://www.weaverstreetmarket.com/

    and walk out the front door to the commons you'll see in the picture on the home page and get sloppy drunk. I think I might just do that tonight. And I'm sure you'll read about the bloody massacre in the papers, right?
    once a year event. your really diggin deep my friend

    What about all the other parties we have, or my friends have, or my families have? Can I take my gun tailgating at the UNC basketball game on Saturday? You're trying to pretend somehow that a bar is somehow unique because people can get together and drink there. It's not unique at all in that respect.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    farfrom, I think you just like to hear yourself talk.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    jlew24asu wrote:
    a gun is designed to assist people killing people.

    I'll ask you again: then why do you want your police to carry them?
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    jlew24asu wrote:
    farfrom, I think you just like to hear yourself talk.

    I do. I also like to hear you talk. How's that relevant to gun control?
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    farfromglorified wrote:
    I'll ask you again: then why do you want your police to carry them?


    so they can protect us from people who commit crimes.
  • fragileblake
    fragileblake Posts: 716
    farfromglorified wrote:
    If someone attacks me, I show them the gun and they stop. It's very effective.

    statisticly its more likely that they will take it from you and shoot you....
    Just sayin'
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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    jlew24asu wrote:
    so they can protect us from people who commit crimes.

    Ok. Perhaps I'm missing something. If a gun's only purpose is killing, and killing is a crime, what are gun-toting cops who kill people protecting you from again?

    Is killing ok when a cop is doing it? Is killing ok so long as you're not being killed? I'm trying to find out where the magic happens when my gun is transferred to the police in your confiscation scheme.

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