You really think this guy did everything that he has confessed to? You have to be really dumb to believe that.
You know full well that i meant have you ever read any books that might challenge your blinkered view. I'm guessing the answer is no or you wouldn't eat up all the rubbish in the news like it was the gospel truth.
Guess what not everything your goverment tells you is the god dam truth they LIE hate to break it to you but it's true.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
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no, you just make idiotic assumptions and believe whatever the pentagon (who lied about how many things to us in the past?) tells you...they have computers out there in that grassland of yours?
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
I just heard on fox news radio that KSM was the one who cut off Daniel Pearl's head...please note, I'm not making light the death of Mr. Pearl, what I am saying is KSM is EVERYWHERE...
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
The Kuwaiti militant's arrest marked one of the most important breakthroughs in the fight against al-Qaeda.
Terrorism and al-Qaeda expert Rohan Gunaratna described him as a "highly experienced organiser of terrorist attacks across international borders, one of an elite group capable of such events".
It is not just the Americans and the Pakistanis who wanted information from him.
The French magistrate Judge Jean-Louis Bruguiere issued an arrest warrant for him in connection with a suicide bomb attack on a synagogue in the Tunisian resort island of Djerba in 2002.
And the Australians have been interested, because of their
He maybe what he admitted to be. But to hold someone in captivity without legal representation or rights just makes all credibility disappear from such a confession. That's the sad part, it may be true but from the lack of rights it doesn't hold any credibility.
The Kuwaiti militant's arrest marked one of the most important breakthroughs in the fight against al-Qaeda.
Terrorism and al-Qaeda expert Rohan Gunaratna described him as a "highly experienced organiser of terrorist attacks across international borders, one of an elite group capable of such events".
It is not just the Americans and the Pakistanis who wanted information from him.
The French magistrate Judge Jean-Louis Bruguiere issued an arrest warrant for him in connection with a suicide bomb attack on a synagogue in the Tunisian resort island of Djerba in 2002.
And the Australians have been interested, because of their
there you go again w/ that 'innocent' distortion....lol
he said so after being imprisoned and tortured for years, sorry if some see that as taking away its credibility
and this makes him the mastermind of 9/11?
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
there you go again w/ that 'innocent' distortion....lol
he said so after being imprisoned and tortured for years, sorry if some see that as taking away its credibility
and this makes him the mastermind of 9/11?
Until his capture in Pakistan in 2003, he was an important figure in Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda organization, where he came to head the group's propaganda operations sometime around 1999. He was indicted on terrorism charges in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York in January 1996 and was subsequently placed on the October 10, 2001 initial list of the FBI's twenty-two Most Wanted Terrorists.
I take it by the fact that you ignored my question that your answer is no.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
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I take it by the fact that you ignored my question that your answer is no.
whats your question? that I think he is quilty of everything he confessed to? well i'm not exactly sure of all he confessed to be he is and was one of the top leaders in el queda. I do believe he had knowledge and assisted in some way of many major attacks.
I just heard on fox news radio that KSM was the one who cut off Daniel Pearl's head...please note, I'm not making light the death of Mr. Pearl, what I am saying is KSM is EVERYWHERE...
the death of daniel pearl happened in pakistan. which is where they caught him. how is that everywhere?
the death of daniel pearl happened in pakistan. which is where they caught him. how is that everywhere?
you right, it's not everywhere...
this is:
In listing the 28 attacks he planned and another three he supported, Mohammed said he tried to kill international leaders including Pope John Paul II, President Clinton and Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf.
He said he planned the 2002 bombing of a Kenya beach resort frequented by Israelis and the failed missile attack on an Israeli passenger jet after it took off from Mombasa, Kenya.
He also said he was responsible for the bombing of a nightclub in Bali, Indonesia. In 2002, 202 were killed when two nightclubs there were bombed.
Other plots he said he was responsible for included planned attacks against the Sears Tower in Chicago, the Empire State Building and New York Stock Exchange in New York City, the Panama Canal, and Big Ben and Heathrow Airport in London — none of which happened.
In listing the 28 attacks he planned and another three he supported, Mohammed said he tried to kill international leaders including Pope John Paul II, President Clinton and Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf.
He said he planned the 2002 bombing of a Kenya beach resort frequented by Israelis and the failed missile attack on an Israeli passenger jet after it took off from Mombasa, Kenya.
He also said he was responsible for the bombing of a nightclub in Bali, Indonesia. In 2002, 202 were killed when two nightclubs there were bombed.
Other plots he said he was responsible for included planned attacks against the Sears Tower in Chicago, the Empire State Building and New York Stock Exchange in New York City, the Panama Canal, and Big Ben and Heathrow Airport in London — none of which happened.
whats your question? that I think he is quilty of everything he confessed to? well i'm not exactly sure of all he confessed to be he is and was one of the top leaders in el queda. I do believe he had knowledge and assisted in some way of many major attacks.
Your missing any form of truth.
And my question was have you read anything that challenges your view. Because you swallow every news story like it's the gospel truth. Hell they even teach media students in University that the press doesn't always tell the truth.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
i'm just asking questions. I believe this man to be guilty. you and your buddies disagree
nobody has disagreed. i like how you have no answer to a real post with common sense except for your karl rove "america-hater" rhetoric. if we doubt the validity, we're clearly pro el-queda eh? nobody here has mentioned innocence except you. did your wife cheat on you with an arab or something last night? you're normally a relatively reasonable dude but i've never seen you act so stupidly one-dimensional on here before. you're smarter than the bullshit you're spewing here today.
and you are silent when i confront you with the fact that america itself has acknowledged that admitting to things means little. it's why we broke away from britian and places such huge importance on due process, trial by hury, transparent justice systems, etc. but i repeat myself. granted, you try to ignore it becos you know you're talking out your ass and everyone here has nailed you on it.
And my question was have you read anything that challenges your view. Because you swallow every news story like it's the gospel truth. Hell they even teach media students in University that the press doesn't always tell the truth.
I wish you would guide me and show me where the truth lies. maybe prisonplanet.com??
and you are silent when i confront you with the fact that america itself has acknowledged that admitting to things means little. it's why we broke away from britian and places such huge importance on due process, trial by hury, transparent justice systems, etc. but i repeat myself. granted, you try to ignore it becos you know you're talking out your ass and everyone here has nailed you on it.
nailed me on what? that he is innocent until proven guilty? ok fine, lets have the courts decide. but with a confession, I look forward to the results
that's your definition of mastermind? you'd make a shite comic book writer.
I need to give you a definition? he was involved in many major attacks and masterminded 9/11. what else do you want? you are going to make a horrible lawyer. good luck with that mountain of debt
that would be an interesting court case to watch...
The transcripts also refer to a claim by Mohammed that he was tortured by the CIA, although he said he was not under duress when he confessed to his role in the attacks.
I wish you would guide me and show me where the truth lies. maybe prisonplanet.com??
Well it sure don't lie with news channels does it.
So by this i take it that universitys don't teach any form of truth either then only your news networks do.
As i've said before try reading some books. You may well learn from them.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
nailed me on what? that he is innocent until proven guilty? ok fine, lets have the courts decide. but with a confession, I look forward to the results
on the fact that confessions produced under duress are unreliable. whether or not he was being tortured at the moment he confessed is irrelevant. they broke him. they tortured and leaned on him for YEARS and he ended up confessing to everything they asked him to... so they just solved 15 years worth of terrorism and everyone gets a gold star and a raise. we have people in america who were held in holding cells for a few hours and simply INTIMIDATED by police before signing confessions that gave them death sentences for crimes they didn't commit, only to be exonerated by dna evidence later... and you're telling me it's impossible that maybe his resume was padded even a LITTLE bit after years of torture and imprisonment without trial or counsel?
fuck dude how dense are you. you want me to read books? ok. which ones?
Your the only dense person round here.
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the man's got talent. I'll give ya that
You really think this guy did everything that he has confessed to? You have to be really dumb to believe that.
You know full well that i meant have you ever read any books that might challenge your blinkered view. I'm guessing the answer is no or you wouldn't eat up all the rubbish in the news like it was the gospel truth.
Guess what not everything your goverment tells you is the god dam truth they LIE hate to break it to you but it's true.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
b/c the pentagon said so (after years of torture), gotcha
no, you just make idiotic assumptions and believe whatever the pentagon (who lied about how many things to us in the past?) tells you...they have computers out there in that grassland of yours?
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
what did this guy NOT confess to...
waterboarding is pretty effective...
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
http://www.answers.com/topic/khalid-sheikh-mohammed
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2811855.stm
The Kuwaiti militant's arrest marked one of the most important breakthroughs in the fight against al-Qaeda.
Terrorism and al-Qaeda expert Rohan Gunaratna described him as a "highly experienced organiser of terrorist attacks across international borders, one of an elite group capable of such events".
It is not just the Americans and the Pakistanis who wanted information from him.
The French magistrate Judge Jean-Louis Bruguiere issued an arrest warrant for him in connection with a suicide bomb attack on a synagogue in the Tunisian resort island of Djerba in 2002.
And the Australians have been interested, because of their
there you go again w/ that 'innocent' distortion....lol
he said so after being imprisoned and tortured for years, sorry if some see that as taking away its credibility
and this makes him the mastermind of 9/11?
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Until his capture in Pakistan in 2003, he was an important figure in Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda organization, where he came to head the group's propaganda operations sometime around 1999. He was indicted on terrorism charges in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York in January 1996 and was subsequently placed on the October 10, 2001 initial list of the FBI's twenty-two Most Wanted Terrorists.
they didnt pick this guy out of thin air.
Take your own advice jlew. The sooner the better.
I take it by the fact that you ignored my question that your answer is no.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
whats your question? that I think he is quilty of everything he confessed to? well i'm not exactly sure of all he confessed to be he is and was one of the top leaders in el queda. I do believe he had knowledge and assisted in some way of many major attacks.
you right, it's not everywhere...
this is:
In listing the 28 attacks he planned and another three he supported, Mohammed said he tried to kill international leaders including Pope John Paul II, President Clinton and Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf.
He said he planned the 2002 bombing of a Kenya beach resort frequented by Israelis and the failed missile attack on an Israeli passenger jet after it took off from Mombasa, Kenya.
He also said he was responsible for the bombing of a nightclub in Bali, Indonesia. In 2002, 202 were killed when two nightclubs there were bombed.
Other plots he said he was responsible for included planned attacks against the Sears Tower in Chicago, the Empire State Building and New York Stock Exchange in New York City, the Panama Canal, and Big Ben and Heathrow Airport in London — none of which happened.
the above is from here: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258817,00.html
man, that motherfucker was busy....
so its not possible to plan attacks from one location? no one ever said he carried out these attacks himself. and yes he has been a busy guy
you're right, he's the one...
let's pack up and bring 'em home..the war on terror is complete and done...
mission accomplished, I say...
Your missing any form of truth.
And my question was have you read anything that challenges your view. Because you swallow every news story like it's the gospel truth. Hell they even teach media students in University that the press doesn't always tell the truth.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
nobody has disagreed. i like how you have no answer to a real post with common sense except for your karl rove "america-hater" rhetoric. if we doubt the validity, we're clearly pro el-queda eh? nobody here has mentioned innocence except you. did your wife cheat on you with an arab or something last night? you're normally a relatively reasonable dude but i've never seen you act so stupidly one-dimensional on here before. you're smarter than the bullshit you're spewing here today.
and you are silent when i confront you with the fact that america itself has acknowledged that admitting to things means little. it's why we broke away from britian and places such huge importance on due process, trial by hury, transparent justice systems, etc. but i repeat myself. granted, you try to ignore it becos you know you're talking out your ass and everyone here has nailed you on it.
that's your definition of mastermind? you'd make a shite comic book writer.
I wish you would guide me and show me where the truth lies. maybe prisonplanet.com??
nailed me on what? that he is innocent until proven guilty? ok fine, lets have the courts decide. but with a confession, I look forward to the results
a confession as a result of torture...
that would be an interesting court case to watch...
we'll see
Well it sure don't lie with news channels does it.
So by this i take it that universitys don't teach any form of truth either then only your news networks do.
As i've said before try reading some books. You may well learn from them.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
fuck dude how dense are you. you want me to read books? ok. which ones?
on the fact that confessions produced under duress are unreliable. whether or not he was being tortured at the moment he confessed is irrelevant. they broke him. they tortured and leaned on him for YEARS and he ended up confessing to everything they asked him to... so they just solved 15 years worth of terrorism and everyone gets a gold star and a raise. we have people in america who were held in holding cells for a few hours and simply INTIMIDATED by police before signing confessions that gave them death sentences for crimes they didn't commit, only to be exonerated by dna evidence later... and you're telling me it's impossible that maybe his resume was padded even a LITTLE bit after years of torture and imprisonment without trial or counsel?
true...
torture will make some people say anything...
edit: maybe he's right, he wasn't under duress, he was under dewater....
haaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, man, I crack myself up sometimes...
Your the only dense person round here.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.