Obama says "CHANGE" and "YES WE CAN"

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  • Smellyman2
    Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    MattyJoe wrote:
    Now suddenly we care about the Iraqis? You guys are the ones who want to just leave Iraq and abandon them, not me. Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein have killed WAY more Iraqis than we have. And, yes, in war there is always collateral damage, and it's very horrible and very sad. But we're there, and leaving will only cause more chaos. We;re the only thing keeping the country relatively stable right now. It was a mistake to go in, but it would be a much BIGGER mistake to leave.

    Al Qaeda???

    Someday when your facts are correct then you can speak w/ the grownups..
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    MattyJoe wrote:
    You people don't know anything, really. I really don't see the horrible state of affairs which you all are referring to in this country. You know what? We're WINNING right now in Iraq. {quote]

    we're not winning in IRaq....we are currenlty spending millions of your tax dollars paying off local hoodlums to stop fighting....pissing off Billions of this war..thousands of American soldiers dying..all for lies....plain old lies...NO ties to 9/11, NO weapons of mass destruction, NO ties to alqueida.....thats why we went in remember...no matter how it turns out we didn't win.....we fked up...BUSH and Cheney should be put in Jail....or worse...and those that in some way think we're winning...sorry...your the freakin sheep...BAHHHHH.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • DOSW
    DOSW Posts: 2,014
    _outlaw wrote:
    "collateral damage"? fuck that, these civilians were killed deliberately. don't downplay the deaths of 1.2 million people by saying 'there is always collateral damage'.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IiJb1SKae0

    This is outlaw if he ever found out where MattyJoe works. :D

    (just for the record, I agree with you outlaw)
    It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win
  • MattyJoe
    MattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    Smellyman wrote:
    Al Qaeda???

    Someday when your facts are correct then you can speak w/ the grownups..

    Okay, then who was orchestrating all the roadside bombs and suicide bombers and such in Iraq after we invaded? Attacks which killed Iraqi civilians AND our troops.
    I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
    -Reagan
  • MattyJoe
    MattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    callen wrote:
    and those that in some way think we're winning...sorry...your the freakin sheep...BAHHHHH.

    We're succeeding right now. The country is stabilizing, slowly but surely. Hear any news on suicide bombers and other attacks lately? Nope. Sure there are some here and there but not nearly to degree that they were.

    And I'll say it once again, I DON'T support the initial act of invading. It was totally idiotic. Saddam posed no threat, and you're all right, NO connection to 9/11. What I'm saying is that now I believe we owe the Iraqi people as stable and peaceful a country as we can give them. Leaving now would not be the ethical thing to do.
    I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
    -Reagan
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    MattyJoe wrote:
    And I'll say it once again, I DON'T support the initial act of invading. It was totally idiotic. Saddam posed no threat, and you're all right, NO connection to 9/11. What I'm saying is that now I believe we owe the Iraqi people as stable and peaceful a country as we can give them. Leaving now would not be the ethical thing to do.
    why does a military presence = stability?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    succeeding

    lol...that's some funny shit...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • alaskadude
    alaskadude Posts: 59
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    I heard he's going to change the calendar and scary shit like that... Everybodys birthday will be different.

    Also he's going to have a voodoo priestess on his cabinet, and we'll all have to stand facing the west in the morning


    Boogie Boogie

    Sounds good to me.
    Yes, there really is a dog.

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