It's been criticized both for over AND under counting.
I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
-Reagan
Much more detailed information on the various issues and his plans for dealing with them there. Sorry if someone already linked to that, I had no desire to read on after the first post.
2000: Pittsburgh
2006: Camden I & II, DC
2008: DC, Ed DC II
Obama has served only 1 term in the US Senate, and 1 term in State Senate. In years past, a candidate this inexperienced would've been the first one out of the primaries. It's not his place to even think about running for President.
Granted that the primary process did not exist during Lincolns time but your point can still be countered considering that Lincoln went on to become one of our greatest Presidents even though his resume lacked the experience you speak of.
Abraham Lincoln was elected President after serving 8 years in the Illinois State Senate and 2 years as a Congressman.
Barack Obama served 8 years in the Illinois State Senate and 4 years in the U.S. Senate.
“Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened.”
"collateral damage"? fuck that, these civilians were killed deliberately. don't downplay the deaths of 1.2 million people by saying 'there is always collateral damage'.
In the history of warfare, going all the way back to the French & Indian War, civilians are always killed whether it is accidentally or deliberately. It sucks, but it comes with the territory. How many innocent civilians do you think were killed during the bombings of London, Berlin, Dresden, Hiroshima & Nagasaki during WWII? The radiation fall-out from Hiroshima and Nagasaki alone probably claimed more lives than the actual H-bombing. The Boston Massacre is probably the most famous case of american (or colonial if you prefer) civilian death at the hands of a foreign military... and that was just for chucking snowballs at some British soldiers.
I'm not taking sides in this argument, and maybe I'm pointing out the obvious with the civilian death facts, but if wars can be fought with no reprocussions or casualties to the non-military or non-governmental bodies, then what's to prevent anyone from going to war?
Camden 8/28/1998; Jones Beach 8/24/2000; Camden 9/1/2000; Camden 9/2/2000; Albany 4/29/2003; New York 7/8/2003; Vancouver 9/2/2005; Atlantic City 10/1/2005; Albany 5/12/2006; E. Rutherford 6/1/2006; E. Rutherford 6/3/2006; New York 6/24/2008; New York 6/25/2008; New York 5/20/2010
Change what???
Yes we can what??? I have still yet to hear anything solid from this tool.
And at what cost to the American people?
A lot of you are forgetting that all this "change" is going to cost big bucks.
Your Big Bucks.
The question is how much of it, and can we afford it with the way the economy is right now.
Think about this before you stick up for yor precious Obama.
Why does no one ask this same question about Obama, Clinton 1, Clinton 2, Kerry, Pelosi, etc.?
I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
-Reagan
Now suddenly we care about the Iraqis? You guys are the ones who want to just leave Iraq and abandon them, not me. Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein have killed WAY more Iraqis than we have. And, yes, in war there is always collateral damage, and it's very horrible and very sad. But we're there, and leaving will only cause more chaos. We;re the only thing keeping the country relatively stable right now. It was a mistake to go in, but it would be a much BIGGER mistake to leave.
Al Qaeda???
Someday when your facts are correct then you can speak w/ the grownups..
You people don't know anything, really. I really don't see the horrible state of affairs which you all are referring to in this country. You know what? We're WINNING right now in Iraq. {quote]
we're not winning in IRaq....we are currenlty spending millions of your tax dollars paying off local hoodlums to stop fighting....pissing off Billions of this war..thousands of American soldiers dying..all for lies....plain old lies...NO ties to 9/11, NO weapons of mass destruction, NO ties to alqueida.....thats why we went in remember...no matter how it turns out we didn't win.....we fked up...BUSH and Cheney should be put in Jail....or worse...and those that in some way think we're winning...sorry...your the freakin sheep...BAHHHHH.
"collateral damage"? fuck that, these civilians were killed deliberately. don't downplay the deaths of 1.2 million people by saying 'there is always collateral damage'.
Someday when your facts are correct then you can speak w/ the grownups..
Okay, then who was orchestrating all the roadside bombs and suicide bombers and such in Iraq after we invaded? Attacks which killed Iraqi civilians AND our troops.
I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
-Reagan
and those that in some way think we're winning...sorry...your the freakin sheep...BAHHHHH.
We're succeeding right now. The country is stabilizing, slowly but surely. Hear any news on suicide bombers and other attacks lately? Nope. Sure there are some here and there but not nearly to degree that they were.
And I'll say it once again, I DON'T support the initial act of invading. It was totally idiotic. Saddam posed no threat, and you're all right, NO connection to 9/11. What I'm saying is that now I believe we owe the Iraqi people as stable and peaceful a country as we can give them. Leaving now would not be the ethical thing to do.
I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
-Reagan
And I'll say it once again, I DON'T support the initial act of invading. It was totally idiotic. Saddam posed no threat, and you're all right, NO connection to 9/11. What I'm saying is that now I believe we owe the Iraqi people as stable and peaceful a country as we can give them. Leaving now would not be the ethical thing to do.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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It's been criticized both for over AND under counting.
-Reagan
..don't try to make excuses
I'm not an Obama supporter at all.
But I do have a suggestion.
No matter who becomes president............
How about all the elitist fuckers and corporations who profitted greatly (all time high profits, that is); pay for all the "changes"?
How about those fuckers coughing up all the dough to get this country back on track!
Let's face it, after eight years of this parasitical administration, they are the only ones who can afford to and should kick in the cash.
Much more detailed information on the various issues and his plans for dealing with them there. Sorry if someone already linked to that, I had no desire to read on after the first post.
2006: Camden I & II, DC
2008: DC, Ed DC II
Granted that the primary process did not exist during Lincolns time but your point can still be countered considering that Lincoln went on to become one of our greatest Presidents even though his resume lacked the experience you speak of.
Abraham Lincoln was elected President after serving 8 years in the Illinois State Senate and 2 years as a Congressman.
Barack Obama served 8 years in the Illinois State Senate and 4 years in the U.S. Senate.
if so, please enlist in the army to help the stability of a country who hates us, and will never stop hating us, by getting killed
In the history of warfare, going all the way back to the French & Indian War, civilians are always killed whether it is accidentally or deliberately. It sucks, but it comes with the territory. How many innocent civilians do you think were killed during the bombings of London, Berlin, Dresden, Hiroshima & Nagasaki during WWII? The radiation fall-out from Hiroshima and Nagasaki alone probably claimed more lives than the actual H-bombing. The Boston Massacre is probably the most famous case of american (or colonial if you prefer) civilian death at the hands of a foreign military... and that was just for chucking snowballs at some British soldiers.
I'm not taking sides in this argument, and maybe I'm pointing out the obvious with the civilian death facts, but if wars can be fought with no reprocussions or casualties to the non-military or non-governmental bodies, then what's to prevent anyone from going to war?
why is McCain going to raise my taxes...?
Why does no one ask this same question about Obama, Clinton 1, Clinton 2, Kerry, Pelosi, etc.?
-Reagan
Al Qaeda???
Someday when your facts are correct then you can speak w/ the grownups..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IiJb1SKae0
This is outlaw if he ever found out where MattyJoe works.
(just for the record, I agree with you outlaw)
Okay, then who was orchestrating all the roadside bombs and suicide bombers and such in Iraq after we invaded? Attacks which killed Iraqi civilians AND our troops.
-Reagan
We're succeeding right now. The country is stabilizing, slowly but surely. Hear any news on suicide bombers and other attacks lately? Nope. Sure there are some here and there but not nearly to degree that they were.
And I'll say it once again, I DON'T support the initial act of invading. It was totally idiotic. Saddam posed no threat, and you're all right, NO connection to 9/11. What I'm saying is that now I believe we owe the Iraqi people as stable and peaceful a country as we can give them. Leaving now would not be the ethical thing to do.
-Reagan
lol...that's some funny shit...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Sounds good to me.