Obama has got some nerve

acoustic guy

my2hands wrote:

yeah, you are really blowing this one out of proportion... but feel free to continue because it is funny as hell ready such nonsense

LOL thanks :rolleyes:

fuck

acoustic guy wrote:

Please...
I feel for the people who were here before us. I think what happened to them was terrible. But that was then and this is now. All we can do is learn form it, not dwell on the past. Give me a break trying to compair then and now.

I think you could use a couple lessons in English...

my2hands

acoustic guy wrote:

LOL thanks :rolleyes:

do you know why your appliance comes with instructions in multiple laguages? becasue you live in a hemisphere where people speak multiple laguages... french, english, and spanish... and large companies that make your appliances sell their products throughout the world, let alone this hemisphere... so it only makes sense to include instructions for the main laguages you will be selling too... ever buy somethign from ikea? the instructions also come in swedish, because it is a swedish based company.

English is not the only laguage spoken in the world.. not to metion you live in the worlds greatest melting pot to boot

acoustic guy

_outlaw wrote:

I think you could use a couple lessons in English...

Just typing fast, watching my daughter today Teach.

meistereder

My cousins in Europe started learning English in school when they were 7 years old. Not so that English-speakers could be comfortable in their country, but so they could communicate with more people in the world. Yes, it is required. Yes, it is a very good thing. Obama is saying it is humbling to realize that Americans are one of the only groups left who only speak one language.

Ours is the only country in the world I know where people are afraid of learning new languages. It's sad.

slightofjeff

NMyTree wrote:

But, I do believe it would be a positive thing for languages like Spanish, French, Japanese, Italian, Chinese and German to be learned and learned well.

I agree it would be a positive thing. But, aside from the curriculum already taught in high school and college, I don't think Obama has any right to tell me what I should teach my kids.

We have had language classes in our schools for a long time. I learned quite a bit when I was in school. But most people/kids don't take it seriously and learn just enough to pass the class and then forget all about it.

So what? That's their prerogative. I took differential calculus in high school, but ended up not needing it in my job. I've forgotten that, too.

Nothing wrong with expanding our language arts. it's good for the mind and for the soul.

There's nothing wrong with it, so long as it's voluntary. What's next for Obama? "Every American child should be required to read The Great Gatsby?" Or else what?

acoustic guy

my2hands wrote:

do you know why your appliance comes with instructions in multiple laguages? becasue you live in a hemisphere where people speak multiple laguages... french, english, and spanish... and large companies that make your appliances sell their products throughout the world, let alone this hemisphere... so it only makes sense to include instructions for the main laguages you will be selling too... ever buy somethign from ikea? the instructions also come in swedish, because it is a swedish based company.

English is not the only laguage spoken in the world.. not to metion you live in the worlds greatest melting pot to boot

Really? Okay then why is half the things I buy from day to day written in English and Spanish?
Sorry, I think things should only be written in English here. Thats just how I feel.
I see your point on the directions but this is how i feel.

meistereder

acoustic guy wrote:

Really? Okay then why is half the things I buy from day to day written in English and Spanish?
Sorry, I think things should only be written in English here. Thats just how I feel.
I see your point on the directions but this is how i feel.

Just out of curiosity, have you done a lot of traveling? Because pretty much everywhere else in the world, not only signs, but PA announcements and many other things are done in multiple languages. Not just border towns or tiny countries. It's not to bow down to anyone or to minimize the importance of a native tongue, but to create access. Do you want the US to compete on an international level in a global economy, or do you want to isolate ourselves further than we are already?

know1

I think we should pick a national language and use it exclusively, but as to the question of whether everyone needs to learn it, that should be up to the individual.

blackredyellow

acoustic guy wrote:

No. he is simply saying "come on over to my country and we will make you as comfortable as possible. We will put your language on everything we sell. If yuo buy a home appliance, it will come with 12 different direction books to make sure you are comfortable." Fuck that.

riiiiggghhhtt.... he said that.

my2hands

acoustic guy wrote:

Really? Okay then why is half the things I buy from day to day written in English and Spanish?
Sorry, I think things should only be written in English here. Thats just how I feel.
I see your point on the directions but this is how i feel.

because those things you buy day to day are sold north and south of the Rio Grande river, thats why.

the world is flat again so to speak


this stuff is simple really? i mean come on folks...

my2hands

meistereder wrote:

Just out of curiosity, have you done a lot of traveling? Because pretty much everywhere else in the world, not only signs, but PA announcements and many other things are done in multiple languages. Not just border towns or tiny countries. It's not to bow down to anyone or to minimize the importance of a native tongue, but to create access. Do you want the US to compete on an international level in a global economy, or do you want to isolate ourselves further than we are already?

great points...

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acoustic guy wrote:

Really? Okay then why is half the things I buy from day to day written in English and Spanish?
Sorry, I think things should only be written in English here. Thats just how I feel.
I see your point on the directions but this is how i feel.

How does it hurt anyone to have signs & instructions in multiple languages?

fuck

scb wrote:

How does it hurt anyone to have signs & instructions in multiple languages?

it's not the american way.

meistereder

I don't know where you guys are buying appliances, but for the past 10 years, most of my instruction books have come in multiple languages. Including English as the first one in the booklet.

Huge problem there. I actually have to disregard the rest of the book. Jesus, what a non-issue.

SoonForgotten2

acoustic guy wrote:

No. he is simply saying "come on over to my country and we will make you as comfortable as possible. We will put your language on everything we sell. If yuo buy a home appliance, it will come with 12 different direction books to make sure you are comfortable." Fuck that.

Because you clearly still have much to learn...

Direct quotations are another person's exact words--either spoken or in print--incorporated into your own writing.

* Use a set of quotation marks to enclose each direct quotation included in your writing.
* Use a capital letter with the first word of a direct quotation of a whole sentence. Do not use a capital letter with the first word of a direct quotation of part of a sentence.
* If the quotation is interrupted and then continues in your sentence, do not capitalize the second part of the quotation.

Mr. and Mrs. Allen, owners of a 300-acre farm, said, "We refuse to use that pesticide because it might pollute the nearby wells."

Mr. and Mrs. Allen stated that they "refuse to use that pesticide" because of possible water pollution.

"He likes to talk about football," she said, "especially when the Super Bowl is coming up."

Indirect quotations are not exact words but rather rephrasings or summaries of another person's words. Do not use quotation marks for indirect quotations.

According to their statement to the local papers, the Allens refuse to use pesticide because of potential water pollution.

https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/section/1/5/

Its Evolution Baby

meistereder wrote:

I don't know where you guys are buying appliances, but for the past 10 years, most of my instruction books have come in multiple languages. Including English as the first one in the booklet.

Huge problem there. I actually have to disregard the rest of the book. Jesus, what a non-issue.

I disagree. It's as big of an issue as abortion, foreign policy and health care.

IT WILL decide this election...:rolleyes:

NMyTree

slightofjeff wrote:

I agree it would be a positive thing. But, aside from the curriculum already taught in high school and college, I don't think Obama has any right to tell me what I should teach my kids.

In case you missed it, I agree. The only language I think should be mandatory, is English.

The rest was me saying I think it's a positive thing to learn other languages, but I didn't advocate it being a requirement or forced upon.

slightofjeff wrote:

So what? That's their prerogative.

Sure is. I don't recall saying it wasn't their perogative. I simply made a statement which I have found to be true. Apparently you agree.

slightofjeff wrote:

There's nothing wrong with it, so long as it's voluntary. What's next for Obama? "Every American child should be required to read The Great Gatsby?" Or else what?

I have no idea what you're going on about. I never advocated any american being forced to do anything but learn English. The rest was my perspective on different languages. I never indicated a mandatory curriculum. Only suggested I believe it to be a positive thing to learn other languages.

By the same token, I don't believe my children or anyone's children should be dragged into a phoney, trumped up war; by corporate elitist jerk-offs. Nor should they have the right to violate my right to privacy and freedom.

And last time I checked phoney wars and constitutional rights are far more important, than some possible mandatory foreign language curriculum.

blackredyellow

meistereder wrote:

I don't know where you guys are buying appliances, but for the past 10 years, most of my instruction books have come in multiple languages. Including English as the first one in the booklet.

Huge problem there. I actually have to disregard the rest of the book. Jesus, what a non-issue.

Fuck that... I can't possibly be expected to assembly my entertainment center without being distracted by all of the Chinese symbols.

Its Evolution Baby

slightofjeff wrote:

I agree it would be a positive thing. But, aside from the curriculum already taught in high school and college, I don't think Obama has any right to tell me what I should teach my kids.

So what? That's their prerogative. I took differential calculus in high school, but ended up not needing it in my job. I've forgotten that, too.

There's nothing wrong with it, so long as it's voluntary. What's next for Obama? "Every American child should be required to read The Great Gatsby?" Or else what?

The reason he wants to make foreign language manditory in elementary school is because that is when people are better able to learn and retain another language.

I don't think he should make Spanish class mandatory but it should definitely be offered at every school and Parents should encourage there kids to take it.
I know I would encourage my kids if I had any.

Like it or not being Bilingual can get you a job in this country for that reason alone. It's a good skill to have.